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[daveliam]

@AllThatJazz being able to choose is very nice, i'd prefer a Hawke style prototype character for all races, Dwarves, Elves and Qunari with their own Prologue and their name with characters from their origin story that interact with them down the road.

 

That actually could be a fantastic idea.  I imagine that it would be a huge drain on resources (you'd need multiple VA's - although, I guess you could have the same as DA: I where an American VA does the dwarf and qunari characters and a British VA does the human and elf characters), but it could be really interesting to see.  It would be combining the best of both worlds:  a malleable, yet 'distinct' PC with racial choice and multiple fleshed out background stories. 

[TheOgre]

The current VA's for male is very well done. I could actually believe the more 'masculine' sounding VA to be a Qunari, or a Dwarf, but just the same could be said for the English VA. 

 

I think they had the right idea with the voice actors for DAI and maybe they could replicate that with the prototype malleable character.

 

Further edit:

 

I have yet to be bored by a class storyline in Star Wars, Bioware truly has excellent writers.

[Heimdall]

Yes, that does sound fun. As much as I loved the Origins in DAO, I found the lack of reactivity throughout the storyline a little disappointing. In this regard I am enjoying The Old Republic a surprising amount. I don't like MMOs, but I was gifted some gametime by my nephew so thought I'd give it a whirl - and I've been impressed by the class stories, how much class recognition there is in more general quests, and even how much race recognition there is in some scenes (I'm playing a Chiss Imperial Agent - amongst others - and I was really gratified to find some responsive dialogue about a non-human/Sith working for a supremacist Empire) .

It helps that SWTOR is more like a SP RPG than any MMO I've ever played, still the only one that's held my interest long enough to reach max level.

It's been months, I've been meaning to get back into that game.

[cdizzle2k3]

Seriously this is how the conversation goes from here, you claim that you were talking about games in a comparable field, I point out examples of games that thrash Inquisition in the narrative and character defining department, you say those games don't count because you have not played them and refuse to play them, I say your ignorance does not all of a sudden make Inquisition perform any better in this area, then you say that doesn't matter because Inquisition is still better than the majority of games on the market, rinse repeat and go around again for another cycle, lets just end it here shall we?

"Those games"? I like your word play, trying to make the illusion that you have a stronger point... Basically, you think because I haven't played your beloved Divinity game, I don't have room to speak on the topic? Wow... Your logic can work both ways buddy... Your subjectively biased opinions against this game doesn't detract the games value for others. I never said anything about it being THE BEST at narrative flexibility, but hey you're obviously not understanding the point that I'm trying to make. If we agree on one thing, it's that it probably be best to drop it at this point...

 

 

I said that I would rather not but sometimes bringing up examples of how the Witcher 3 does things better is unavoidable when digging up the truth. 

 

 

One thing about subjectivity... THERE IS NO TRUTH!

[Queen Skadi]

but hey you're obviously not understanding the point that I'm trying to make.

 

Did not realize you had a point, but if it was "I don't need to play other games in the genre to judge how my favorite game stacks up against them" then I think you will find there will be more than a few people disagree with you, now I don't care if you play these games or not however playing them would go a long way to giving you the information you need to actually make a coherent argument for once.

[cdizzle2k3]

Did not realize you had a point, but if it was "I don't need to play other games in the genre to judge how my favorite game stacks up against them" then I think you will find there will be more than a few people disagree with you, now I don't care if you play these games or not however playing them would go a long way to giving you the information you need to actually make a coherent argument for once.

So again your takeaway from what I said was that "DA: I is the greatest game ever and no other game compares"? 

 

*sigh*

 

I'll break it down one last time. I didn't say that DA was my favorite game, or the greatest "make your own story" style game. How could you even assume that when I clearly stated in the beginning that I thought last year was a pretty weak year for games AND that I doubt DA:I would've been so highly heralded if it was released this year. Hell, I'd go so far to say that if Witcher 3 was released last year it would've easily won every publication's GOTY award hands down... wait, well apparently since I haven't played Divinity, my opinions don't matter... Even if I did say that DA:I was my favorite game, it's it's barely relevant to what my point is. All I was saying was that IMO, DA does a great job of giving players flexibility to make decisions that affect the game. Whether or not you like the directions you can drive the game is completely subjective, but that doesn't mean there are NO options at all. You can look at the Keep and see a visual representation of some major decisions you can make.

 

Obviously you think the game should have done more, which is completely fair to think, (and frankly, a point I agree with)but the difference is that I am not saying that the game is complete garbage and can acknowledge that the game has it's merits. If it didn't have appeal, there's no way it would've gotten any of those accolades from last year, weak field or not. And don't give me that 'game publishers paying off reviewers to favor their games' conspiracy theory. If it was total crap, it wouldn't be considered at all for GOTY awards. And I'm pretty sure everyone at had DA as at least a nominee... Of course no game ever will unanimously get everyone's approval, and might even generate hate if you think another game got shafted(which seems to be the case with you).

 

I don't see what playing Divinity: Original Sin has to do what I think of Dragon Age: Inquisition. I'm not making a countdown of the best games in the category. Don't be so butt-hurt because DA:I won awards and has the sales to show that plenty think it's a fun game even if though you despise it. I don't consider myself a bandwagoner. Even if I did play and put countless hours in Divinity: Original Sin, I wouldn't be the guy to go, "Oh that other game I that I used to enjoy is completely stupid now! What was I thinking?! This one is the only good game now! There can only be one good game at any given time!"

[Nimlowyn]

I admire your perseverance in the face of insanity, cdizzle2k3.

[Dutch's Ghost]

Pretty much nothing. Dragon Age Inquisition is a failure in comparison to Witcher 3. I was glad that W3 met my hype while Inquisition failed to meet the hype I gave it.

[Elhanan]

Pretty much nothing. Dragon Age Inquisition is a failure in comparison to Witcher 3. I was glad that W3 met my hype while Inquisition failed to meet the hype I gave it.

At least this accepts responsibility for the claim. Hype score seems even....

[Queen Skadi]

At least this accepts responsibility for the claim. Hype score seems even....

 

What claim? That he hyped it up to a point that he had unrealistic expectations it could not possibly hope to deliver? I don't know that I can speak for Dutch on the matter but my expectations were pretty low (though it seems I do hold games to a higher standard than most of you on the forum so you would probably say my expectations were too high despite my expectations being far lower for Inquisition than rival games on the market that have far lower budgets) yet it failed to meet even those exceedingly low expectations.

[Heimdall]

Skadi reminds me of Revan Reborn, in all the bad ways

[cdizzle2k3]

I admire your perseverance in the face of insanity, cdizzle2k3.

 

What can I say, I'm a sucker for a debate! That, and I'm using this to fill in my downtime at work... lol

[BioWareMod01]

Hello everyone. Let's keep it civil in here. Thank you.

[ThePhoenixKing]

Well, Inquisition has Leliana going for it, and looking very pretty to boot...

[zestalyn]

 is there anything Inquisition and the Dragon Age series actually manages to do better than the Witcher 3 and the Witcher series?

 

 

HOTTER GUYS. Hotter everyone really... 98% percent of the TW population has been pounded by the ugly stick it's almost kind of sad
actually on second thought I'm sure all of the TW3 younger, non-magical ladies (bc theres obviously no point in mentioning the sorceresses) are pretty but I can't even say for myself because all I mostly remember is that half of them had their teats out.

For me personally, there are alot of things that I think DA does better than TW which is why its my preferred game. Not to diss TW, TW3 is very good, but it's simply my opinion. It's like why I prefer the color blue over green. It's my style.

For instance you mention music - IMO there are a handful of DA:I tracks that really knock it out of the ball park (the main theme is particularly beautiful) and of course there are the tavern songs. So DA:I's soundtrack is a winner as far as video game OSTs go. DAO/2 don't really stand out for music. TW3, there are some choral pieces that are beautiful, but forgettable. Pris's song is very nice, but everything else I can really live without (especially that ruckus in the TW3 game menu)

I don't really feel like getting into everything else because for the other things it's probably beating a dead horse at this point, and again, it's ultimately very subjective. At the end of the day, DA is the better game for me.
 

[Al Foley]

Actually now that I am a lot farther into the game it seems like DA does the big 3 non game things better, story, setting (building), and characters, while Witcher does all, or at least most of the video gamey things better.  Except for crafting and dialog choices.  But a lot of the areas where I think Witcher has the clear, or different, advantage in all has to do with things related to gameplay or things you could only experience in a video game.  

[Yaroub]

HOTTER GUYS.

For me personally, there are alot of things that I think DA does better than TW which is why its my preferred game. Not to diss TW, TW3 is very good, but it's simply my opinion. It's like why I prefer the color blue over green. It's my style.

For instance you mention music - IMO there are a handful of DA:I tracks that really knock it out of the ball park (the main theme is particularly beautiful) and of course there are the tavern songs. So DA:I's soundtrack is a winner as far as video game OSTs go. DAO/2 don't really stand out for music
 

I don't really feel like getting into everything else

 DA is the better game for me.

 

Gee, i have yet to see a more solid argument.

 

Even your comparing to DA soundtarcks isn't valid. DA:O> DA:I

 

Aside from the things that are in DA:I and not in TW3, TW3 is superior in everything else apart from lore, it's all time legacy game, and that coming from a fanboy who'll choose DA over TW any day, alas a one that doesn't want bioware to release another mediocre sequel ruining everything DA:O stood for.

 

Comparing the two is an insult to a one sanity. it's crystal clear for those who wants to see.

[Al Foley]

Gee, i have yet to see a more solid argument.

 

Even your comparing to DA soundtarcks isn't valid. DA:O> DA:I

 

Aside from the things that are in DA:I and not in TW3, TW3 is superior in everything else apart from lore, it's all time legacy game, and that coming from a fanboy who'll choose DA over TW any day, alas a one that doesn't want bioware to release another mediocre sequel ruining everything DA:O stood for.

 

Comparing the two is an insult to a one sanity. it's crystal clear for those who wants to see.

Now I think DA I had the best sound track in a game of all time.  I also think that the only thing that DA O did better then DA I is some of the side quests in DA O felt more integrated into the plot/ setting then they did in DA I.  in DA I most of the side quests felt entirely unrelated to the world around them.  Another thing that Witcher 3 does really well to.  

[chance52]

HOTTER GUYS. Hotter everyone really... 98% percent of the TW population has been pounded by the ugly stick it's almost kind of sad
actually on second thought I'm sure all of the TW3 younger, non-magical ladies (bc theres obviously no point in mentioning the sorceresses) are pretty but I can't even say for myself because all I mostly remember is that half of them had their teats out.

For me personally, there are alot of things that I think DA does better than TW which is why its my preferred game. Not to diss TW, TW3 is very good, but it's simply my opinion. It's like why I prefer the color blue over green. It's my style.

For instance you mention music - IMO there are a handful of DA:I tracks that really knock it out of the ball park (the main theme is particularly beautiful) and of course there are the tavern songs. So DA:I's soundtrack is a winner as far as video game OSTs go. DAO/2 don't really stand out for music. TW3, there are some choral pieces that are beautiful, but forgettable. Pris's song is very nice, but everything else I can really live without (especially that ruckus in the TW3 game menu)

I don't really feel like getting into everything else because for the other things it's probably beating a dead horse at this point, and again, it's ultimately very subjective. At the end of the day, DA is the better game for me.
 

 

 

I respect that you can like one game over the other but green is objectively the superior color over blue. Fact.

 

I must say for music there is no better ambient music for me than in TW3 Skellige. But DA:I has some very fun tavern songs that I like better than some Witcher music.  It is really nice that people have unique tastes, I love the Witcher 3 so much it became my favorite game I ever played. Beating out even DA:O and Chrono Trigger for me. But it would be a very dull world if every game was the same, even if it was a carbon copy of a game I love. 

 

Competition is good for the market, I like that DA:I and TW3 for that matter aren't the only fantasy RPG's on the market. Companies can learn from each other and grow and ultimately come out with better products in the future. 

[Yaroub]

Now I think DA I had the best sound track in a game of all time.  I also think that the only thing that DA O did better then DA I is some of the side quests in DA O felt more integrated into the plot/ setting then they did in DA I.  in DA I most of the side quests felt entirely unrelated to the world around them.  Another thing that Witcher 3 does really well to.  

 

Tactics, protagonist, superior combat system best tactical camera, more specializations, arcane and dual wield warrior, bioware's toolset, legendary gear even with spoils dlcs DA:I don't have a chance, great array of choices, superior main and side quests, voice acting, storytelling, better characters, better villains (Cory was a joke), DA:O -> gameplay over romances, DA:I romances over plot, DA:O dark medieval theme, DA:I disney like theme, deeper interactions and conversations, as a set up game had more better solid lore, true rpg over sandbox/movie any day, personally DA:O companions are better Morrigan,Leliana and Alistair, better pacing, healing spells, real decisions that change everything not whatever you'll say everyone will tell how glorious  they were and that's it, hairstyles, harder fights, origins credit soundtrack is the best-Fact-, better background story. graphics suits my retro taste, better final battle AD>Cory

 

I can go as long as you like, a classical old school memorable rpg, ranked by most critics among the best of all time.

 

I know from the forum you enjoy DA:I most, and i applaud you for that, but DA:O wipe the floor with DA:I any day of the week.

[zestalyn]

Gee, i have yet to see a more solid argument.

 

Even your comparing to DA soundtarcks isn't valid. DA:O> DA:I

 

Aside from the things that are in DA:I and not in TW3, TW3 is superior in everything else apart from lore, it's all time legacy game, and that coming from a fanboy who'll choose DA over TW any day, alas a one that doesn't want bioware to release another mediocre sequel ruining everything DA:O stood for.

 

Comparing the two is an insult to a one sanity. it's crystal clear for those who wants to see.

 

I come here to make a light hearted jest about DA's hotter boys and state my personal preference for one series over another and of course someone has to go all apesh*t with the "your opinion is invalid because stating your opinion is making an offensive ARGUMENT against my opinion BLASPHEMY". No wonder these threads go on forever.

I enjoyed DA:I enough to clock 150+ hours within a month whereas I kept putting TW3 off despite only clocking 60 something over a couple of months. I know, insane right? Cry me a river! He's all yours

[Al Foley]

Tactics, protagonist, superior combat system best tactical camera, more specializations, arcane and dual wield warrior, bioware's toolset, legendary gear even with spoils dlcs DA:I don't have a chance, great array of choices, superior main and side quests, voice acting, storytelling, better characters, better villains (Cory was a joke), DA:O -> gameplay over romances, DA:I romances over plot, DA:O dark medieval theme, DA:I disney like theme, deeper interactions and conversations, as a set up game had more better solid lore, true rpg over sandbox/movie any day, personally DA:O companions are better Morrigan,Leliana and Alistair, better pacing, healing spells, real decisions that change everything not whatever you'll say everyone will tell how glorious  they were and that's it, hairstyles, harder fights, origins credit soundtrack is the best-Fact-, better background story. graphics suits my retro taste, better final battle AD>Cory

 

I can go as long as you like, a classical old school memorable rpg, ranked by most clerics among the best of all time.

 

I know from the forum you enjoy DA:I most, and i applaud you for that, but DA:O wipe the floor with DA:I any day of the week.

Except the vast majority of those I prefered in DA I in.  I mean I really just do not want to just regurgitate your list...just the opposite.  Though one or two notes.  I find DA Os tactical camera to be no different then DA Is.  They are both the same, hence my annoyance with DA Is.  I would not describe DA I as being 'disney' too.  I mean have you seen some of the horror freak shows that are in the game?  Probably not as that would require looking beyond all the pretty pretty environments.  

 

I mean seriously this is probably the biggest thing about DA I because yes on the surface its a very clean, very pure game with not much going for it, but scratch that surface even a little and its just as brutal as DA O was...its just not in your face "arrrghh I'm-a-brood-mother-hear-me-roar" thing.  

 

And the dual wielding warrior was nice, but I hardly missed it.  And so what about the legandary gear?  I honestly wonder how that is a recomendation.  

[Yaroub]

I come here to make a light hearted jest about DA's hotter boys and state my personal preference for one series over another and of course someone has to go all apesh*t with the "your opinion is invalid because stating your opinion is making an offensive ARGUMENT against my opinion BLASPHEMY". No wonder these threads go on forever.

I enjoyed DA:I enough to clock 150+ hours within a month whereas I kept putting TW3 off despite only clocking 60 something over a couple of months. I know, insane right? Cry me a river! He's all yours
 

 

It was light hearted i know, but i couldn't help it, sorry about that, must keep bioware under pressure and tell them how bad they are lol, i just want the game to improve further and further. and that require me ranting on them.

 

Still good game DA:I, glad you enjoyed it, i tried but couldn't.

[Yaroub]

Except the vast majority of those I prefered in DA I in.  I mean I really just do not want to just regurgitate your list...just the opposite.  Though one or two notes.  I find DA Os tactical camera to be no different then DA Is.  They are both the same, hence my annoyance with DA Is.  I would not describe DA I as being 'disney' too.  I mean have you seen some of the horror freak shows that are in the game?  Probably not as that would require looking beyond all the pretty pretty environments.  

 

I mean seriously this is probably the biggest thing about DA I because yes on the surface its a very clean, very pure game with not much going for it, but scratch that surface even a little and its just as brutal as DA O was...its just not in your face "arrrghh I'm-a-brood-mother-hear-me-roar" thing.  

 

And the dual wielding warrior was nice, but I hardly missed it.  And so what about the legandary gear?  I honestly wonder how that is a recomendation.  

 

Oh come on, everything i listed was better in DA:O, it's a matter of perspective i guess.

um gear set i meant, am playing divinity right now i got confused.

 

Tactical camera the same, you're on console aren't you?

[Al Foley]

Oh come on, everything i listed was better in DA:O, it's a matter of perspective i guess.

um gear set i meant, am playing divinity right now i got confused.

 

Tactical camera the same, you're on console aren't you?

Yes.  But I did play DA O on the 'puter too and the exact same things I find annoying about DA Is I found about it.