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[sjsharp2011]

Personally I think both games have their place but given I've not played the Witcher yet (but it is on my list of things to do as I have it) I can't really comment further.

[Al Foley]

I also feel its worth pointing out that, and I never thought I would say anything like this.  the opening area in DA I (the Hinterlands) is about fifty times better then the opening area in the Witcher 3 (White Orchard)  So happy to be rid of that place.  

[London]

In before OP calls Al Foley a liar and spreading falsities as OP cannot distinguish between opinion and fact.

[Al Foley]

In before OP calls Al Foley a liar and spreading falsities as OP cannot distinguish between opinion and fact.

You know its funny I just went to go read the original post in the thread for curioisty sake and another thing I forgot to mention is, so far at least.  DA I has the far superior sound track.  I think DA has the best sound track in gaming history...and I have actually listened to all of Witcher 3s sound track.  

 

But yet can't seem to get this song out of my head:

 

[London]

Ok that is pretty good lol

[Queen Skadi]

In before OP calls Al Foley a liar and spreading falsities as OP cannot distinguish between opinion and fact.

 

Pretty sure it is only the Dragon Age forum that considers 11 being a higher number than 8 an opinion, ask the rest of the world and they will tell you that it is indeed a fact. In fact it is a fact that 11 being a higher number than 8 is a fact and that fact is also a fact.

 

Pretty sure it is the BSN that can't distinguish between opinion and fact.

[London]

I thought I already clarified that this thread isnt about praising the Witcher? It is about finding the things Inquisition does better, I am sorry if I wont settle for lies and misinformation about what Inquisition does better but I would much rather find the things that Inquisition truthfully does better than to settle for lying to ourselves.

Ok then how do you proposed we answe this with only facts? My out asked a subjective question but want factual answers.

[Ashaantha]

When it comes to comparing two games of any kind in any way especially for what's better/worse in a specific game there is no such thing as fact, there is only opinions.

 

People have different preferences, tastes, likes and dislikes when it comes to games and what they should and should not have/do. Therefore there is no fact of what one game does better then another, there is only personal opinions, which in turn means there is no wrong opinion just as it means there is no right opinion.

Some people really need to learn this particular fact.

[Queen Skadi]

When it comes to comparing two games of any kind in any way especially for what's better/worse in a specific game there is no such thing as fact, there is only opinions.

 

Yes there is, of course there is, some games just do things objectively better, for example if you were to compare the coding prowess of the team behind the Elder Scrolls to the team behind Phantom Pain you would find the team behind Phantom Pain are far better programmers, the team behind the metal gear solid are so far ahead when it comes to things like artificial intelligence and everything while the Elder Scrolls team has yet to figure out the mystery behind how to program a ladder, some things are just objectively better, like Usain Bolt being  faster runner than Tiny Tim.

[London]

You just spouted off opinions. *shrug*

[Ashaantha]

And that was a long-winded reply containing only your personal opinions. *shakes head*

Some people will never learn.

[Queen Skadi]

You just spouted off opinions. *shrug*

 

Who is the better programmer, the guy who can program working ladders or the guy who can't? Who is the faster runner, the gold medal wearing olympian or the cripple? Which is the higher number, 11 or 8? The answers to these questions are not opinions

[London]

It's subjective. Maybe I think Bethesda are the better coders because they have a far larger world to account for.

The other examples aren't applicable to what you asked as they are objectively measured scientifically, unlike what people think is good about a game.

[Queen Skadi]

It's subjective. Maybe I think Bethesda are the better coders because they have a far larger world to account for.

 

Well if you thought that then you would be wrong, how does having a big world reflect their prowess as coders? of course that is not to say that there aren't complications with having a large open world (hate to break it to ya but Phantom Pain has one as well) and having it run smooth by manipulating the level of detail of distant objects and such but other than that having a big world has little to do with coding.

 

We are talking about guys who have openly acknowledged that ladders are something they do not know how to do, seriously their work speaks for itself

 

[robotnist]

i know this topic became popular when people (for some reason) had to show that they felt the witcher series is a better game series than the dragon age series, or even CDPR ">" Bioware...

 

and a lot of this cropped up during witcher 2 and DA2's lifespan...

 

to that dev company question i ask you this, which dev's games would you rather been stranded on an island with, bioware's huge stable of great RPG/action/adventure games or the witcher games... don't get me wrong, i buy all bioware and CDPR games. but it isn't a contest for pure joy.

 

and then when you want to compare TW3 to DAI, again, the games are both doing something different. but DA does allow everyone to be any sex/race/class etc they want to be. you can't beat that by throwing yet ANOTHER white guy at the problem... just doesn't work...

 

IMO TW3 should be compared to a game like Assassins Creed. 

 

and for some reason, no matter how much i enjoy the beginning of the wither games, i have never finished one... i love the story and wish i could finish them, but theres always something that drags down my enjoyment of the game... in TW1 it got a little redundant and too back tracky, the witcher 2's controllers were almost ALWAYS fighting me back, and the witcher 3 was crashing liek crazy at first for me and again the controlls felt "drunk", but after tonights 5G+ patch, it fixed many of my issues and i WILL finish this witcher, i think it's their 1st officially great game!!!

[Aren]

Corypheus had more depth than Eredin

 

...Which is impressive because Corypheus was extremely underdeveloped.

Corypheus is less deep than my sister,and she his 5 years old.

But he is more deep than the AD,  at least,which is nothing particularly remarkable.

[correctamundo]

Gvent is boring.

[Al Foley]

Gvent is boring.

blasphemy!  *shun shun* 

 

[ShawDawg94]

One thing that DAI does better than the Witcher is it's controls. I enjoyed the Witcher 3, but Geralt's movements were extremely clunky. Once I beat the game and went back to dragon age, I was surprised how well I could control my Inquisitor. This may be fact or opinion (a widely shared one if so) but CDPR should work on their character movement.

[United Servo Academy Choir]

In other news, you all might be interested to learn that I have, using math, science, and other methods known and understood only by me, proven that Tetris is an objectively superior game to Age of Empires.

Some of you might protest that those are completely different games, and you don't like Tetris or puzzle games, and that maybe people just play the games they like to play.

Well, to that, I'd simply remind everyone that people lie, and my numbers do not.

[duckley]

When it comes to comparing two games of any kind in any way especially for what's better/worse in a specific game there is no such thing as fact, there is only opinions.

 

People have different preferences, tastes, likes and dislikes when it comes to games and what they should and should not have/do. Therefore there is no fact of what one game does better then another, there is only personal opinions, which in turn means there is no wrong opinion just as it means there is no right opinion.

Some people really need to learn this particular fact.

Yes - comparing and contrasting two games on a better-worse continuum tends to reflect opinion/preference. Fair to do as long as it is stated.

 

Another contiuum for comparision is same- different. That type of contrasting may be more factual in nature. 

[duckley]

i know this topic became popular when people (for some reason) had to show that they felt the witcher series is a better game series than the dragon age series, or even CDPR ">" Bioware...

 

and a lot of this cropped up during witcher 2 and DA2's lifespan...

 

to that dev company question i ask you this, which dev's games would you rather been stranded on an island with, bioware's huge stable of great RPG/action/adventure games or the witcher games... don't get me wrong, i buy all bioware and CDPR games. but it isn't a contest for pure joy.

 

and then when you want to compare TW3 to DAI, again, the games are both doing something different. but DA does allow everyone to be any sex/race/class etc they want to be. you can't beat that by throwing yet ANOTHER white guy at the problem... just doesn't work...

 

IMO TW3 should be compared to a game like Assassins Creed. 

 

and for some reason, no matter how much i enjoy the beginning of the wither games, i have never finished one... i love the story and wish i could finish them, but theres always something that drags down my enjoyment of the game... in TW1 it got a little redundant and too back tracky, the witcher 2's controllers were almost ALWAYS fighting me back, and the witcher 3 was crashing liek crazy at first for me and again the controlls felt "drunk", but after tonights 5G+ patch, it fixed many of my issues and i WILL finish this witcher, i think it's their 1st officially great game!!!

For me I was actually blown away by TW3 - having preferred DA1 and 2 over TW1 and 2. I enjoy sharing what I love about TW3 on this board with the hope that Bioware will steal some of the best elements of TW3 into DA4. It isnt about fangirling one over the other as some posters might assume. 

 

As for Assassins Creed - I don't know - tired several of those over the years and couldn't get into them. Don't see TW3 at all as the action-adventure genre.

[chance52]

Serious question, but do people go to the Witcher message boards to obsess about Dragon Age? 

 

Forums are down at the moment otherwise I'd link it but if I remember right the DAI thread there got to be 800-900 pages long and is still open. Then there was a DAI vs. W3 thread there too but was much, much shorter than the one here.  

 

Mentality of the posters is sometimes very different though, there you don't have knee jerk "I never played the Witcher but I hate it cause there were sex cards in W1 and now I'm going to post 30 times a day about how trash it is" In all honesty I love both the Witcher games and a couple Dragon Age games as do many other people, thus the mega threads on each others forums. 

[United Servo Academy Choir]

For me I was actually blown away by TW3 - having preferred DA1 and 2 over TW1 and 2. I enjoy sharing what I love about TW3 on this board with the hope that Bioware will steal some of the best elements of TW3 into DA4. It isnt about fangirling one over the other as some posters might assume.

As for Assassins Creed - I don't know - tired several of those over the years and couldn't get into them. Don't see TW3 at all as the action-adventure genre.

I was coolly dismissive of the Witcher series until TW3 released and looked great, which made me tackle the first game again, this time to the end, and actually play the second for the first time. The first one was precisely as good as I remember it being (interpret that however you like), and the second one I'm enjoying very much. But it's not for everyone. I would certainly place it in the RPG genre as well, but I can't characterize the gameplay itself as anything but action.

In any event, I'm not at all worried about Bioware taking some cues from it for future games (and there are certainly ways that this would benefit them). They'll be looking at it very closely. Much like CDPR has in taking many design cues from Bioware over the years (and sometimes even refining them).

[Al Foley]

For me I was actually blown away by TW3 - having preferred DA1 and 2 over TW1 and 2. I enjoy sharing what I love about TW3 on this board with the hope that Bioware will steal some of the best elements of TW3 into DA4. It isnt about fangirling one over the other as some posters might assume. 

 

As for Assassins Creed - I don't know - tired several of those over the years and couldn't get into them. Don't see TW3 at all as the action-adventure genre.

I have a feeling that...well I just think to put it plainly Witcher 3 and DA I will satisfy different itches.  I think I will come to love both games, already adore DA I and my experiences with Witcher 3 has been pretty positive so far.....buuuut a bit on the frustrating side at times too.