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[robotnist]

what i should have said about DAI vs TW3 vs Assassins Creed is that, if we were to look at my "joy" receptors in my brain, for me, TW3 and AC overlap more than TW3 and DAI.

 

the witcher series has always felt much more shallow in the RPG department because the first game barely had any armor upgrades and weapons were few and far between. and it seems TW2 and 3 slowly broke away from that, but you're not upgrading as many characters in TW3 as you are in DAI, but TW3 finally figured out how to make loot fun for Geralt.

 

there are many more sets of armor and weapons... and it def feels MORE RPG than the first 2...

 

but the RPG goodies that are in DAI just overshadow the RPG aspects of TW3 and therefore i FEEL more like it's an action game when i play TW3 than an RPG, but that's definitely an opinion i would never force on anyone else.

 

so thats my "logic" on previous statements i've made about the two games... lol

[Cz-99]

The bias in this thread is top kek.

 

It's even better when it influences opinions, and those opinions are then used as 'facts' in arguments.

[Jay P]

I thought I already clarified that this thread isnt about praising the Witcher? It is about finding the things Inquisition does better, I am sorry if I wont settle for lies and misinformation about what Inquisition does better but I would much rather find the things that Inquisition truthfully does better than to settle for lying to ourselves.

Does this forum have an ignore feature?

[canarius]

Nothing really

[Queen Skadi]

The bias in this thread is top kek.

 

I know right? I mean you even got people seriously trying to argue that 8 is a higher number than 11 or that 11 being a higher number than 8 is somehow subjective when it is a cold hard fact. It is like the BSN can't even differentiate between opinion and fact.

 

To he honest I had a feeling that finding something that Inquisition actually does better than the Witcher 3 would be a tough task but I had no idea that people would need to defy the laws that hold our universe together to justify their warped arguments on what Inquisition does better.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I know right? I mean you even got people seriously trying to argue that 8 is a higher number than 11 or that 11 being a higher number than 8 is somehow subjective when it is a cold hard fact. It is like the BSN can't even differentiate between opinion and fact.

I think they meant that the 8 in DAI have more content per romance than the 11 in TW3, thus DAI has more content than TW3 in that department. 

[CronoDragoon]

One thing that DAI does better than the Witcher is it's controls. I enjoyed the Witcher 3, but Geralt's movements were extremely clunky. Once I beat the game and went back to dragon age, I was surprised how well I could control my Inquisitor. This may be fact or opinion (a widely shared one if so) but CDPR should work on their character movement.

They are including alternative movement controls in the next W3 patch, so suffice to say its been recognized as a widespread complaint, and good on CDPR for (hopefully) addressing it.

Now, back to the OP trolling everyone.

[Jay P]

I know right? I mean you even got people seriously trying to argue that 8 is a higher number than 11 or that 11 being a higher number than 8 is somehow subjective when it is a cold hard fact. It is like the BSN can't even differentiate between opinion and fact.

To he honest I had a feeling that finding something that Inquisition actually does better than the Witcher 3 would be a tough task but I had no idea that people would need to defy the laws that hold our universe together to justify their warped arguments on what Inquisition does better.

How do I ignore someone?

[Nimlowyn]

How do I ignore someone?

On the upper right hand corner, where your icon and name are listed, select the upside-down triangle next to your name. This will give you a drop down menu. From this menu select "Manage Ignore Prefs". From here, you can add the name of the member you wish to ignore, and specify if you want to ignore their posts, signature, messages or all 3. Once done click on "Save Changes" and you should be good to go!

[Akrabra]

So much good stuff in this thread that i ran out of likes. :/ 

[Cz-99]

Jus' hug it out, guyz.

 

[andy6915]

As someone who has stayed entirely out of this and has no nug in this race... This Skadi person has lost this debate. Badly. Hard. Indeed, the entire topic has been them getting kicked in the ass over and over, from page to page. If I didn't know any better I'd think they're a masochist who enjoys getting punished for bad arguments, simply because of how they won't just admit defeat and metaphorically keep throwing themselves to the ground with their ass pushed into the air and demanding us to kick them in the ass again. It's like with Iron Bull when he makes you hit him with a stick after the Fade section, except in text form.

[FKA_Servo]

It's remarkably generous of you to grant that there was any real "debate" intended with this thread at all.

[NuffCatnip]

OP is hilarious/ pitiful; asking for peoples opinions on what DAI does better than TW3 in their mind, but only replying with stuff like, you know thats copletely wrong because yadda yadda.

 

This cant be called a discussion, this whole thread is a bad attempt of trolling.

 

I know I responded to this thread (shame on me), but cant we leave this thread to rot ?

[Caliisto]

The Witcher did one thing sooo much better than Dragon Age : it pisses me off. Not because of the game itself but because I can't visit any forum without seeing at least three threads about "the witcher is sooo better than your game" Cool. Good for you.

 

People talk so much about it I don't even want to play. I just hate that game because of threads like this one.

[Nimlowyn]

Given the incredible rudeness, baseless arrogance, and the propensity to mask a confusion between fact and opinion with false equivalencies, this is less a debate and more the OP making a complete fool of themselves. It's embarrassing, really. While I have not been feeling charitable enough to donate to the OP's sense-of-purpose fund by engaging with their nonsense, this thread is rather like a train wreck; I know I shouldn't look, but somehow, it is difficult not to.

[Mornmagor]

I'm not really sure what Witcher does better to be honest, because i haven't played it.

 

I'm sure it does some things alright and is good for what it stands for, but an RPG that forces me to make a specific character and limits my options for customization sooo much, just isn't gonna work for me.

 

An adventure game of point and click, yeah, but an RPG? I don't think so. In the first two games, there was not even an option to wear heavy armor, and from what i see, even in the third game the options are lacking.

[FKA_Servo]

The Witcher did one thing sooo much better than Dragon Age : it pisses me off. Not because of the game itself but because I can't visit any forum without seeing at least three threads about "the witcher is sooo better than your game" Cool. Good for you.

 

People talk so much about it I don't even want to play. I just hate that game because of threads like this one.

 

It actually is very good, the extent to which pleasantly surprised me. At least starting with the second game, it is (the first game remains one of the worst things I've ever played, and is the main reason I didn't continue on with the series years ago). The caveat is that you're locked into playing a specific dude (who is less variable in his choices and personality than a Hawke or a Shep), so if custom protagonists are important to you (they're very important to me), then there's that. As mentioned previously, the gameplay itself is squarely hack'n'slash action. So there's that, too. Really, you can't objectively compare the two games, because apart from having dialog trees and a branching story, they play completely differently.

 

I will say that (again, starting with the second game) the art design and overall aesthetic for the gear, architecture, and world environments are killer. In the aggregate, they might win over Dragon Age for me (although I do think that Inquisition is very, very beautiful, and the most appealingly cohesive looking game in the series yet). I have lots of nice things to say about DAO and DA2, but I wouldn't accuse either of them of being really terrific looking. That's something I've actually thought long before I ever tried playing TW2.

 

Some TW fans really are the worst. But I freely acknowledge the same about some Bioware fans. I figure if sharing an interest with a bunch of dicks is a barrier to my enjoyment of something, my options are so limited that I'll just end up sitting in a room twiddling my thumbs.

[Heimdall]

I agree, I really can't compare the two directly.

 

RPG has become a very loose label, so even if I apply it to both games they are still too different.  Witcher games are pretty much hack'n'slash.  Recent DA titles have shades of that, but through the part mechanics and certain abilities its very different.  Even the story and characters are hard to compare because Geralt is a set character, which allows for stronger characterization and personal moments, but at the cost of player agency, which DAI generally does a better job providing.

 

Now, on a game to game level, TW3's design does one up DAI in a few aspects.  Namely, sidequest design, certain aesthetic designs in armor, the way it handles the war within the world, maintaining the antagonist's sense of threat (Even if they fail on many other story points),  Beyond that, however, the games become too different.  TW3 was about searching for Ciri in a land at war.  DAI was about leading an organization and waging a war.  Both had serious problems with their main story.  DAI's was too compartmentalized, and Cory was a nuisance by the end of the game, not a threat.  TW3 spends the majority of the story blindly looking for Ciri with no clear idea of why Eredin wants her at all, then caps it off with a greater threat that was barely discussed at all.

 

EDIT: And as I previously said, I think DA as a franchise has much more coherent lore and world building than TW.

[FKA_Servo]

EDIT: And as I previously said, I think DA as a franchise has much more coherent lore and world building than TW.

 

Wish I could like this twice, just for this, because I still can't agree more. The world of The Witcher is fun, and cool, but some of the stuff they throw in there just makes no goddamn sense, within the setting and without.

 

Spoiler

For example, I just did the "Royal Blood" questline in TW2, and Phillipa's underlying logic RE the potency of "royal blood" made my eyes roll out of my skull and onto the floor. I'll be honest, there are a lot of moments like this.

[MaxQuartiroli]

You are correct about Planescape Torment. It is also known as the game that barely broke even and made the developers very little profit. Unfortunately critically acclaimed does not mean financially successful.

 

If you think so then you should consider "Twilight" and "50 Shades of Grey" two masterworks. Which they are not. At all.

 

Back OT.

I played, loved and enjoyed both games and while I have a slight preference for TW3 there are still a couple of things where I find DA:I superior

 

- Replayability. TW3 world is huge, is fun, is "alive", but, at the same time I find it a little "excessive" which I know it's very ironically considering that often people complain because games are too mainstreamed, too short, too simplified and so on. But when it's nearly 2 months that you are playing everyday and you know you have cleared more or less half-game because your are a completionist you already know that it will be your one and only playthrough.

 

- Romances. Like I said in another topic what they did with Triss/Yen romance is something I wish I'd never see again in a future game and a mistake that you'll never see in a BW game.

 

- Inventory system in TW3 is really a mess.. You have tons of garbage and often you have no clue about its use.. you never know whether an object will come helpful later in the game because you will have to use it to create a potion or a bait for a monster on a lvl 33 mission. This forces you to loot everything in a compulsive way and waste hours and hours in order to collect the insane amount of loot that you find anywhere. DA:I is really more clear in this matter, even if many people don't like its inventory system (which I loved BTW)

 

EDIT: After patch 1.07 I take partially back the last one. They really improved the inventory. 

[Realmzmaster]

If you think so then you should consider "Twilight" and "50 Shades of Grey" two masterworks. Which they are not. At all.

The point I was making is that financially successful products get sequels. Critically acclaimed products do not get sequels unless they are also financially successful.

Twilight may not be critically acclaimed but it was financially successful which is why it got sequels.

Planescape Torment (which by the way is a game I like) was critically acclaimed but not financially successful so no sequels for 16+ years.

 

When Planescape Torment came out it was in a setting that did not resonate with many gamers. Not a lot of players for the Planescape setting as oppose to the Forgotten Realms setting. PST simply did not sell well.

 

Being critcally acclaimed is not as important as being financially successful. For example if Godfather I (which is critically acclaimed) had not been financially successful do you think there would be a Godfather 2 or 3?

[maia0407]

Just curious, saw a topic in off topic asking which had the better soundtrack, Witcher 3 or Inquisition, and I could not help but think about what a pointless question it was, it is like asking who is the faster runner? Usain Bolt or Tiny Tim? It just isn't a competition, but it did get me thinking, is there anything Inquisition and the Dragon Age series actually manages to do better than the Witcher 3 and the Witcher series?

 

I know this is the Dragon Age forums so some responses may be a little biased but I guess the series needs everything it has got going in it's favor to find what the games do well.

 

 

 

Though I wouldn't say the Dragon Age games do this particularly well I will say they do it at least better than the Witcher series, save imports I guess.

Yes! No set protagonist!

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Just curious, saw a topic in off topic asking which had the better soundtrack, Witcher 3 or Inquisition, and I could not help but think about what a pointless question it was, it is like asking who is the faster runner? Usain Bolt or Tiny Tim? It just isn't a competition, but it did get me thinking, is there anything Inquisition and the Dragon Age series actually manages to do better than the Witcher 3 and the Witcher series?

 

I know this is the Dragon Age forums so some responses may be a little biased but I guess the series needs everything it has got going in it's favor to find what the games do well.

 

 

 

Though I wouldn't say the Dragon Age games do this particularly well I will say they do it at least better than the Witcher series, save imports I guess.

 

All Dragon Age games are more than all Witcher are and ever will be. 

[Fs_nao]

Interesting side quests ? /joke

 

On a more serious note, variety in environments is one. When you think about it it's really amazing in DA:I ; snow, sand, oasis, forests and so on, all unique. And of course it's highly subjective but I felt DA:I environments to be much more breathtaking than TW3's, IMO TW2 did a much better job in that department with the freakingly huge trees in floatsam among others.

 

DA:I also tends a lot better to all those new entitled social communities and causes who will get offended™ and vocal if you don't embrace and support them with all your soul, sometimes despite logic or subtelty (I mean a gay qunari accompanied by a gender indecisive individual, like really ?!). TW3 must have triggered a lot of people on that matter (objectified women and what not).

 

Oh and DA;I does better at winning goty titles I suppose ?