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I feel like ME:A is a great opportunity to make every species from the Milky Way galaxy matter this time.  No more focusing on just humanity.

With the PC being human only don't get your hopes up, the game will most likely some how make humanity the central focus.



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With the PC being human only don't get your hopes up.

 

I don't mind them being human only, but again..

 

New galaxy, possible ark?  I sure their will be a Human Alliance similar to ME1-3, but I think (and hope) there will be a coalition of species from MW where they are ALL looking out for their best interests... Similar to the council... LOL. 



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I don't mind them being human only, but again..

 

New galaxy, possible ark?  I sure their will be a Human Alliance similar to ME1-3, but I think (and hope) there will be a coalition of species from MW where they are ALL looking out for their best interests... Similar to the council... LOL. 

Bioware will never come up with a good lore reason for moving to another galaxy, their only doing it because they don't want to deal with the problems they've created.



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This is the full video of the panel:

https://www.youtube....h?v=00YqU7CT3XQ

The stuff with the main character is right at the beginning. Though any talk about any actual plot results in BioWare mostly saying "We can't talk about that right now".

They also note, everything is highly subject to change.


Dude, that is the comicon video from July of 2014. Before Mass Effect: Andromeda was even officially announced. Lol

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Bioware will never come up with a good lore reason for moving to another galaxy, their only doing it because they don't want to deal with the problems they've created.


Lol. You're so hilariously bitter that the game ended up being set in Andromeda after all, huh?

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Lol. You're so hilariously bitter that the game ended up being set in Andromeda after all, huh?

Its not unreasonable to call out Bioware for not learning anything from the mistakes they've made in the trilogy by running away from them. Because the problems they've created are still going to be there and they're going to catch up to them.

 

People have every right to be skeptical about the concept of moving to another galaxy.


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Most likely going to be some human centric nonsense like ME2 with how humanity being the only ones who can save the day. The ME series doesn't need any more of that.

 

I don't know...if we're going with the bread/duck plot outlined above, as far as we know humanity is the only species with the technology, training and inclination to make really good bread.

 

I think that makes humanity pretty special.



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Its not unreasonable to call out Bioware for not learning anything from the mistakes they've made in the trilogy by running away from them. Because the problems they've created are still going to be there and they're going to catch up to them.

People have every right to be skeptical about the concept of moving to another galaxy.

Again, they can't address their mistakes without canonizing an ending or homogenizing them. We have been over this a hundred times now.

And many would say that canonizing an ending or homogenizing would be a mistake in and of itself. I am not one of those people. But I also don't mind NOT canonizing an ending and moving to Andromeda.

You are so wishy-washy in your posts that I honestly dont think you know what you want. You dont want them to canonize an ending, then you do, honestly I think what you really want is for Mass Effect 3 to be remade.

Which wont happen. Just like canonizing an ending. Just like keeping the setting in the Milky Way.

So you can ****** and moan about moving to Andromeda all you want, but it is happening - so my advice to you is to come to terms with it. I did, a year ago. Now it doesn't bother me. The announcement was no surprise at all. And now I am looking forward to new things they have in store.

This is their chance to finally do things right. If they **** up Andromeda, that's it. Now you have neither the Milky Way OR Andromeda. What then? Another galaxy?

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Again, they can't address their mistakes without canonizing an ending or homogenizing them. We have been over this a hundred times now.

And many would say that canonizing an ending or homogenizing would be a mistake in and of itself. I am not one of those people. But I also don't mind NOT canonizing an ending and moving to Andromeda.

You are so wishy-washy in your posts that I honestly dont think you know what you want. You dont want them to canonize an ending, then you do, honestly I think what you really want is for Mass Effect 3 to be remade.

Which wont happen. Just like canonizing an ending. Just like keeping the setting in the Milky Way.

So you can ****** and moan about moving to Andromeda all you want, but it is happening - so my advice to you is to come to terms with it. I did, a year ago. Now it doesn't bother me. The announcement was no surprise at all. And now I am looking forward to new things they have in store.

This is their chance to finally do things right. If they **** up Andromeda, that's it. Now you have neither the Milky Way OR Andromeda. What then? Another galaxy?

 

I wouldn't care if BioWare said "Hey! The game ended like this (enter ME3 ending)." But it would NEVER happen, unless we revisit the milky way galaxy.



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I wouldn't care if BioWare said "Hey! The game ended like this (enter ME3 ending)." But it would NEVER happen, unless we revisit the milky way galaxy.


I would care if they chose Synthesis. I have no problem with either Control or Destroy, or homogenizing the two and forgetting that the idiocy of Synthesis was ever even an option.

I also have no problem with avoiding the issue for now and going to Andromeda.

Drone seems to think we will never return to the Milky Way. Eventually, we probably will. They are clearly making a smaller scale game with Andromeda to be able to keep a few games in the galaxy without running into issues like the ME3 endings. I imagine eventually they will explore returning to the Milky Way. Sooner, if Andromeda flops.

Which it might.

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Take over a new galaxy. Cerberus style.



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I would care if they chose Synthesis. I have no problem with either Control or Destroy, or homogenizing the two and forgetting that the idiocy of Synthesis was ever even an option.

I also have no problem with avoiding the issue for now and going to Andromeda.

Drone seems to think we will never return to the Milky Way. Eventually, we probably will. They are clearly making a smaller scale game with Andromeda to be able to keep a few games in the galaxy without running into issues like the ME3 endings. I imagine eventually they will explore returning to the Milky Way. Sooner, if Andromeda flops.

Which it might.

 

 

Nobody chose Synthesis unless you were an EDI fan.  That was terrible.  

 

I think we will go back to the MW. Will it be in ME game?  Novel? Comic? Who knows.  But sooner or later, they can't act like the first 3 games never happened.  I think that will upset fans more than anything.

 

I mean, it's like Disney saying "Star Wars EU? We have dismissed that claim" or "This is not the lore you are looking for" *hand waves* Imagine if Bio did that.



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Ancient evil.

 

Destroy it. 

 

The end.


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Nobody chose Synthesis unless you were an EDI fan. That was terrible.

I think we will go back to the MW. Will it be in ME game? Novel? Comic? Who knows. But sooner or later, they can't act like the first 3 games never happened. I think that will upset fans more than anything.

I mean, it's like Disney saying "Star Wars EU? We have dismissed that claim" or "This is not the lore you are looking for" *hand waves* Imagine if Bio did that.

I agree. And that's the thing. Here were their options:

Prequel - horrible idea

Midiquel in the Milky Way - horrible idea, overshadowed by Shepard and the Reapers

Stranger in a strange land style story in the Milky Way - better idea, but more constrained in possibility than another galaxy

Sequel in the Milky Way - deal with ME3 problems by canonizing an ending...terrible idea, ****for now***

Move setting to another galaxy - best idea of a long list of bad ideas.

Hence, a year ago we predicted that Bioware would do this. And they did. Surprise, surprise.

But now, they have the opportunity to tell a compelling story divorced from the train wreck that came before. And it is possible that, through that story, some way to address the train wreck may become clear through the addition of new lore.

And I am all for that.

For example - Andromeda explorers awaken the Remnant. They are not as benevolent as presumed. They then go to the Milky Way and throw a wrench in things. Chose Destroy? They **** you up once you rebuild. Chose Control? They destroy Reapshep, then **** you up. Chose synthesis? They undo whatever changes synthesis did with advanced tech, then **** you up.

Enter plot of Mass Effect 5.

Easy. There are any number of ways to undo what they did and also spend a game in Andromeda.
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I agree. And that's the thing. Here were their options:

Prequel - horrible idea

Midiquel in the Milky Way - horrible idea, overshadowed by Shepard and the Reapers

Stranger in a strange land style story in the Milky Way - better idea, but more constrained in possibility than another galaxy

Sequel in the Milky Way - deal with ME3 problems by canonizing an ending...terrible idea, ****for now***

Move setting to another galaxy - best idea of a long list of bad ideas.

Hence, a year ago we predicted that Bioware would do this. And they did. Surprise, surprise.

But now, they have the opportunity to tell a compelling story divorced from the train wreck that came before. And it is possible that, through that story, some way to address the train wreck may become clear through the addition of new lore.

And I am all for that.

For example - Andromeda explorers awaken the Remnant. They are not as benevolent as presumed. They then go to the Milky Way and throw a wrench in things. Chose Destroy? They **** you up once you rebuild. Chose Control? They destroy Reapshep, then **** you up. Chose synthesis? They undo whatever changes synthesis did with advanced tech, then **** you up.

Enter plot of Mass Effect 5.

Easy. There are any number of ways to undo what they did and also spend a game in Andromeda.

 

Yup, I am still excited for ME:A. I am happy it takes place somewhere new.  I am also happy because it's a freaking new Mass Effect game!  I am not one of those fans thats against change or Andromeda.  However, I will be an Angry fan if there is a new ME game (or book, etc) that is in the Milky Way, and they act like ME1-3 NEVER happened.



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Dude, that is the comicon video from July of 2014. Before Mass Effect: Andromeda was even officially announced. Lol

 

 

|Yeah i thought that vid looked familiar when I clicked on it I've seen it before.



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Ancient evil.

 

Destroy it. 

 

The end.

 

This will be the twist. The game will present a mundane conflict with a rival alien race until *gasp* it is revealed that the "remnants" weren't actually gone after all and have to stomped back into the dustbin of history.


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Again, they can't address their mistakes without canonizing an ending or homogenizing them. We have been over this a hundred times now.

And many would say that canonizing an ending or homogenizing would be a mistake in and of itself. I am not one of those people. But I also don't mind NOT canonizing an ending and moving to Andromeda.
 

They've made certain choices canon so they can easily do that for the endings, its not a bad idea as it seems. The witcher for instance ignores the choices players made in the pass two games yet it was well received by fans. Bioware can easier do something similar with another ME title.

 

 

You are so wishy-washy in your posts that I honestly dont think you know what you want. You dont want them to canonize an ending, then you do, honestly I think what you really want is for Mass Effect 3 to be remade.

 

I never said I was interested in a ME3 being remade, I want Bioware to deal with the problems they've created rather than just running away from them and pretending they didn't make them in the first place which is what they are doing.

 

 

Which wont happen. Just like canonizing an ending. Just like keeping the setting in the Milky Way.

 

Again Bioware has made certain choices canon, its not far fetched to make a certain ending canon.

 

 


So you can ****** and moan about moving to Andromeda all you want, but it is happening - so my advice to you is to come to terms with it. I did, a year ago. Now it doesn't bother me. The announcement was no surprise at all. And now I am looking forward to new things they have in store.

 

People have valid complaints about moving to another galaxy if people didn't have a problem with it they wouldn't bring it up.

 

This is their chance to finally do things right. If they **** up Andromeda, that's it. Now you have neither the Milky Way OR Andromeda. What then? Another galaxy?

 

Again Bioware can't do that by running away from the problems they've created they'll just eventually make the same ones again.



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Nobody chose Synthesis unless you were an EDI fan.  That was terrible.  

 

I think we will go back to the MW. Will it be in ME game?  Novel? Comic? Who knows.  But sooner or later, they can't act like the first 3 games never happened.  I think that will upset fans more than anything.

 

I mean, it's like Disney saying "Star Wars EU? We have dismissed that claim" or "This is not the lore you are looking for" *hand waves* Imagine if Bio did that.

 

 

A lot of my sheprd's chose synthesis actually not all  of them but I'd say a good majority have in my playthrough's



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Read the last post I made, Drone. Just like it was blatantly obvious that they would move to Andromeda a year ago, it is blatantly obvious to me that this move is temporary.

Obviously, they are presenting an opportunity to introduce new lore in a fully unconstrained story. New lore which could, potentially, be utilized to deal with the endings of ME3 without canonizing one, and switching the setting back to the Milky Way.

Honestly, just like Andromeda was, it is so predictable that I really can't see why you can't see it. They wrote themselves into a corner, now they are trying to write themselves out of it.

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So dont worry dude, you will get your Milky Way sequel. In ME5 or 6. So just deal with it until then.

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Read the last post I made, Drone. Just like it was blatantly obvious that they would move to Andromeda a year ago, it is blatantly obvious to me that this move is temporary.

 

 

I would be upset if ME:A is a standalone.  It would then feel like an experiment to me.



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So dont worry dude, you will get your Milky Way sequel. In ME5 or 6. So just deal with it until then.

 

That would make no sense to abandon the Andromeda galaxy after ONE game.  They would be be nutty than squirrel poo.



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A lot of my sheprd's chose synthesis actually not all  of them but I'd say a good majority have in my playthrough's

 

Hm, interesting.  I've always chose destroy, even as renegade.  Controlling the reapers seems a good way to end the series and never revisit the game/series again.  I mean, a new foe attacks council space, but Shepard and his army of Reapers fought them off!



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Read the last post I made, Drone. Just like it was blatantly obvious that they would move to Andromeda a year ago, it is blatantly obvious to me that this move is temporary.

Obviously, they are presenting an opportunity to introduce new lore in a fully unconstrained story. New lore which could, potentially, be utilized to deal with the endings of ME3 without canonizing one, and switching the setting back to the Milky Way.

Honestly, just like Andromeda was, it is so predictable that I really can't see why you can't see it. They wrote themselves into a corner, now they are trying to write themselves out of it.

Except there is nothing to prove any of this, it won't be surprising if Bioware are intending to ditch the MW for good. The fact they're running away from the problems doesn't give people much confidence that they're willing to deal with them.