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[N7Jamaican]

I don't like time travel as much as you, but if you have better solution I am open for ideas. 

 

Yeah lets not use Time Travel to tie ME:A into the previous trilogy.  That's a MUCH better idea.

[Mcfly616]

I don't like time travel as much as you, but if you have better solution I am open for ideas. 

 Here's one: leave it be.

[nayaN7vasEarth]

I think the focus will be on The Milky Way species being treated as invaders and an outside or mysterious threat and us trying to establish a new home in spite of all this.

 

Take it from the perspective of this new galaxy's species, here comes a mysterious massive fleet of strange species they've never seen despite these mysterious new species being so scientifically advanced and they embed themselves in the middle of this galactic conflict for unknown reasons.

 

These Andromedan species have every right to fear us.

 

Our perspective is that we are fleeing an uncertain fate that would most likely be a galactic annihilation and destruction of everything we know. We are leaving behind everything we know and making a terrifying journey to a place strange and alien to us and we find ourselves in the middle of this galactic conflict and we are apprehensive and scared in our own right but determined and with nothing to lose.

 

It will be damn interesting to play and see the story they give us against this backdrop as much as I didn't want to abandon The Milky Way.

 

I also think it's possible they will add a link to the Mass Effect universe by having a connection between some little known species lore from The Milky Way and these new Andromeda species.

 

Incidentally how is the translator going to work with these new species as i'm sure their languages will be unlike anything we have seen. They won't understand us and we won't understand them so we're going to have to have our scientists study them and update the Omnitool translators real quick

[Drone223]

Again, they CANT deal with them. Not as it is now. Their only hope, literally - their only hope (the ending is SO horrifically bad that this is seriously the only thing that can be done) - is to introduce new lore to the franchise such that they CAN deal with the endings at a later date.

And that necessitates moving the setting.

My point: Whether they want to deal with the endings or not is irrelevant, which you dont seem to get. Either way, they have to move the setting.

Except they don't have to move the setting to deal with the endings its completely unnecessary.

 

It was right in front of you the whole time. Some of us just saw it, others didn't.

It only become obvious when the leak came out, but before then what Bioware was doing with the next game was still up for debate.

[The Arbiter]

Looking for people's thoughts on what the actual plot of ME:A will be. Here are some of my ideas (may be a combination of as well):

1) Continue civilization in Andromeda (you're Noah).

2) Discover and fight new ancient evil alien race (reapers 2.0)

3) Stars in Milky Way are aging faster, need to find fix in Andromeda or move Milky Way civilizations to Andromeda.

4) We found or developed a way to Andromeda. Andromeda is then the wild west: outlaws, opportunities, the Oregon Trail. You're the sheriff to explore, keep order, create alliances with new races.

5) Is the song Ghost Riders in the Sky from the trailer a hint to anything? The song is a take on the wild hunt myth.

Explore, Expand, Exterminate 

[Dark Helmet]

Stock Bioware Plot #2

[Bullseye1]

Time travel (Hollywood's answer for a reboot) for the win.

Has to be that Bioware never intended to do any more Mass Effect games beyond the trilogy. Write a story, 'finish' it, and move on to the next new IP. EA wants to keep the franchise alive after ME's success though, creating the mess of abandoning the Milky Way.

I don't see a return to the Milky Way (that I like yet) unless they pick an ending as canon.

[Gothfather]

Sounds lame. "pathfinder"... Jesus ******, isn't that the name of some SUV or car or something.... SMH. 

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[Sully13]

[Drone223]

'Hello i am NeonFlux117 and i am here just to troll users. Please take the bait and get all mad, encourage my childish behaviour.'

I'm really surprised he's not banned yet.

[Krymzon74]

First Contact War v2.0. Our intrepid N7 dies during the war. PC gets battlefield/promotion of necessity. War comes to a halt because of Big Bad. After that I dare not guess.

[Feybrad]

 

You post that in Jest, but it's actually a totally valid Thing. This Hero's Journey is vague enough that it totally allows for the most good Plots to applied to it. Let's see:

 

The Call to Adventure is there, when Shepard and the Normandy are sent to Eden Prime.

 

The Prothean beacen is the supernatural Help.

 

The Threshold Guardians are the Members of the Council, refusing to make Shepard a Spectre at first.

 

The Threshold is becoming a Spectre.

 

The Challenges and and Temptations is basically the Plot of ME1.

 

Anderson is the Mentor.

 

The Companions are the Helpers.

 

(Now, we can go small and only apply it to only ME1 or go big and apply the whole Trilogy. I'll go big.)

 

Abyss, Death & Rebirth is the Beginning of ME2, where Shepard literally dies and is reborn.

 

This Process leads to his/her Transformation into a full blown Cyborg, at the Beginning and over the Course of ME2.

 

Atonement is about regaining trust with the Alliance after working for Cerberus and blowing up the Alpha Relay. We have reached ME3 at this Point.

 

The Return is the Return to the captured Citadel at the very end of ME3.

 

The Gift of the Goddess is more accurately ind infamously known as "The three Colors of the Catalyst". Shepard gets the Gift to decide which of the three Explosions he'd like to see abd what Fate should befall the Galaxy.

 

Mass Effect has totally done the Hero's Journey and it can even be applied to each individual Game.

 

The Threshold in ME1 is becoming as Spectre, in ME2 it is probably Horizon with the VS as the Threshold Guardian, in ME3 it's the Krogans and the Issue of the Genophage.

 

Abyss, Death & Rebirth in ME1 would be Virmire, in ME2 it's the Abduction of the Normandy Crew and in ME3 it would be the Fall of Thessia.

 

You see... the Hero's Journey still totally works.

[Sully13]

who said it was in jest?

[Ahriman]

I think the focus will be on The Milky Way species being treated as invaders and an outside or mysterious threat and us trying to establish a new home in spite of all this.

 

Take it from the perspective of this new galaxy's species, here comes a mysterious massive fleet of strange species they've never seen despite these mysterious new species being so scientifically advanced and they embed themselves in the middle of this galactic conflict for unknown reasons.

 

These Andromedan species have every right to fear us.

 

Yeah, fighting with less advanced species for once would be a nice change.

 

Incidentally how is the translator going to work with these new species as i'm sure their languages will be unlike anything we have seen. They won't understand us and we won't understand them so we're going to have to have our scientists study them and update the Omnitool translators real quick

Universal translator can work with hanar color glow, so I don't think this would be an issue for long.

[DFMelancholine]

Sounds lame. "pathfinder"... Jesus ******, isn't that the name of some SUV or car or something.... SMH. 

 Not only that....Why are they sending an "untested" explorer to find a new home for humanity?

That always rubbed me the wrong way since I read that leak.

[Joseph Warrick]

Jesus not another mysterious ancient race with powerful ruins. The remnants? Might as well save themselves the trouble and call them Rakata. This is the plot of neverwinter nights yet again. How many times have they done this story?

 

Oh well at least the DLC baddies are dead. No chance the big bad in ME:A is General Petrovsky or the big fat former shadow broker.

 

EDIT: Nissan Pathfinder.

[Cancermeat]

I think instead of having Diana Allers it should have a guest appearance of Tony Bourdain the whole game should be about sharing food with new cultures

[DFMelancholine]

How to fix ME3 ending.

1)Find remnants technology.

2)Find wormhole for travel to Milky Way and back in time.

3) Beat the reapers and save Shepard.

^  THIS.So much.

[Quid2Facis]

I lean toward comment #34 and #103.

 

It's likely to be a trilogy like the first and following the Star Wars Trilogy like they did with the first: defeat evil plan; slightly darker take; defeat evil plan on a much bigger scale. ME1 and ME3 were the same game just as A New Hope and Return of the Jedi were the same movie..

 

Prior to priority earth a plan was developed for "the continuation of civilization".. Exodus to Andromeda with all the races that had aligned to work against the reapers. The more races aligned the greater the variety involved. Seriously doubt Shepard will be available, except maybe as a yet again undiscovered Cerberus clone or an upgraded version of the VI from ME2. (That would be kind of humorous.)

 

Game 1: small scale colonizing, building alliances, placing defensives around new colonies, fighting bad guys who refuse to accept our presence. How well can you build your alliances will partly determine how successful you are, along with where you build them and how well you can defend them. A continuation of what ME3 was doing in building alliances.

 

Game 2: unknown slightly darker take

 

Game 3: repeat game 1, except on bigger scale - not just fighting a minor portion of some galactic wide evil empire but the entirety of that evil empire. Keep building alliances, get portions of evil empire to turn on their masters and join you, etc.

 

Doesn't matter how ME3 played out. If everyone harvested, no further contact. Someone left alive choices might have to be made about allowing some to go back. Back to what though, is everyone in MW indoctrinated? If no import, then expedition goes out and never again hears from MW.

 

That's my guess. The basic plot might be bland, but its really the telling that's important. Most plots are bland. Good vs evil. One person falls in love with another person, etc. etc.

[The Night Haunter]

How to fix ME3 ending.

1)Find remnants technology.

2)Find wormhole for travel to Milky Way and back in time.

3) Beat the reapers and save Shepard.

Time travel is the worst idea ever. It's basically invalidating your whole ME3 playthrough, plus it brings the issue of why not use Time Travel to fix every other issue that ever occured ever? Rachni Wars? Lets just jump back then and fix that too. Krogan Rebellions? Done. Hell why not just go all the way back to Leviathans and stop them from creating the Reapers in the first place? Time Travel is one the worst ways to fix something in fiction, it only works when it is central to the plot and is a known and defined quantity right from the beginning (a la Back to the Future, or Fantastic Four [comics not movies]).

 

Something better than Time Travel? Literally doing nothing.

[Eryri]

Time travel is the worst idea ever. It's basically invalidating your whole ME3 playthrough, plus it brings the issue of why not use Time Travel to fix every other issue that ever occured ever? Rachni Wars? Lets just jump back then and fix that too. Krogan Rebellions? Done. Hell why not just go all the way back to Leviathans and stop them from creating the Reapers in the first place? Time Travel is one the worst ways to fix something in fiction, it only works when it is central to the plot and is a known and defined quantity right from the beginning (a la Back to the Future, or Fantastic Four [comics not movies]).

Something better than Time Travel? Literally doing nothing.

I don't know, I think it can work well sometimes. Time travel did a very good job fixing the X men movie franchise. Bryan Singer effectively erased that dreadful third film from canon with the end of DOFP which nearly made me laugh out loud in the cinema.

[The Night Haunter]

I don't know, I think it can work well sometimes. Time travel did a very good job fixing the X men movie franchise. Bryan Singer effectively erased that dreadful third film from canon, which made me want to laugh out loud in the cinema.

A rare case of success. But X-Men has always had time travel, just like Fantastic Four, and in DoFP the Time Travel element is central to the plot. It isn't a plot device, it is the plot, which the problem Time Travel in ME would have.

[9TailsFox]

Time travel is the worst idea ever. It's basically invalidating your whole ME3 playthrough, plus it brings the issue of why not use Time Travel to fix every other issue that ever occured ever? Rachni Wars? Lets just jump back then and fix that too. Krogan Rebellions? Done. Hell why not just go all the way back to Leviathans and stop them from creating the Reapers in the first place? Time Travel is one the worst ways to fix something in fiction, it only works when it is central to the plot and is a known and defined quantity right from the beginning (a la Back to the Future, or Fantastic Four [comics not movies]).

 

Something better than Time Travel? Literally doing nothing.

We have only one wormhole and it only leads one point in time. And I agree I don't like time travel in Dragon age I was "Oh come on not time travel " I like time travel only if it is main think in story all plot revolves around it.

[The Night Haunter]

We have only one wormhole and it only leads one point in time. And I agree I don't like time travel in Dragon age I was "Oh come on not time travel " I like time travel only if it is main think in story all plot revolves around it.

The problem with 'one wormhole, leading to one point in time' is that how in all the 10 billion year history of the universe is the wormhole pointed toward the Milky Way during the Reaper Invasion? That timeline is less than .00000001% of the time since the Big Bang, the chances of finding a wormhole leading only there and then is essentially impossible.

Plus that falls into the 'Plot Device' category. Time Travel exists only to act as a convenient wipe for the story, Back to the Future and DoFP had time travel be the primary element of the story. Back to the Future couldn't exist without time travel, MEA can. That is what separates working time travel storylines and arbitrary ones that pretty much universally suck.

[Metalfros]

The problem with 'one wormhole, leading to one point in time' is that how in all the 10 billion year history of the universe is the wormhole pointed toward the Milky Way during the Reaper Invasion? That timeline is less than .00000001% of the time since the Big Bang, the chances of finding a wormhole leading only there and then is essentially impossible.

Plus that falls into the 'Plot Device' category. Time Travel exists only to act as a convenient wipe for the story, Back to the Future and DoFP had time travel be the primary element of the story. Back to the Future couldn't exist without time travel, MEA can. That is what separates working time travel storylines and arbitrary ones that pretty much universally suck.

 

That's exactly one of the things you have to look over as a fan. if we don't, It will be very hard to be satisfied with the else very good game.