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[The Night Haunter]

That's exactly one of the things you have to look over as a fan. if we don't, It will be very hard to be satisfied with the else very good game.

That's what I'm saying. If MEA includes time travel it won't be a good game, because it will use a cheap, nonsensical, deus ex machina plot device that exists for the sole purpose of fixing an earlier mistake. That is one of the biggest mistakes Bioware can make with the MEA story, is attempting to 'fix' the Milky Way, especially via Time Travel. 

I'd be happier (but still not actually happy) with a fix that goes along the lines of - we use remnant tech to invade the Milky Way and conquer the galaxy, getting rid of any Controlled Reapers, killing all Geth and other synthetics, and putting every ending on equal footing. So no matter which ending was chosen (including the 4th option) the galaxy ends up in the same place after we reinvade. 

That would be a terrible story line, but it is still better than time travel.

 

 

There is one scenario in which time travel works, and that is the same set up as Days of Future Past: The reason we are in Andromeda in the first place is because of time travel. If we are working on some kind of chrono tech that goes wrong during a reaper attack and transports us to Andromeda at some unknown point in time, and we then spend the entire time in Andromeda trying to create a lab and recreate the device to get us back to our own correct time and place. That would be (or I should say could be) an acceptable storyline involving time travel. At that point Time Travel isn't a plot device, it is a mechanic central to the plot line, which makes it much less of a Deus Ex Machina.

[Metalfros]

That's what I'm saying. If MEA includes time travel it won't be a good game, because it will use a cheap, nonsensical, deus ex machina plot device that exists for the sole purpose of fixing an earlier mistake. That is one of the biggest mistakes Bioware can make with the MEA story, is attempting to 'fix' the Milky Way, especially via Time Travel. 

I'd be happier (but still not actually happy) with a fix that goes along the lines of - we use remnant tech to invade the Milky Way and conquer the galaxy, getting rid of any Controlled Reapers, killing all Geth and other synthetics, and putting every ending on equal footing. So no matter which ending was chosen (including the 4th option) the galaxy ends up in the same place after we reinvade. 

That would be a terrible story line, but it is still better than time travel.

 

 

There is one scenario in which time travel works, and that is the same set up as Days of Future Past: The reason we are in Andromeda in the first place is because of time travel. If we are working on some kind of chrono tech that goes wrong during a reaper attack and transports us to Andromeda at some unknown point in time, and we then spend the entire time in Andromeda trying to create a lab and recreate the device to get us back to our own correct time and place. That would be (or I should say could be) an acceptable storyline involving time travel. At that point Time Travel isn't a plot device, it is a mechanic central to the plot line, which makes it much less of a Deus Ex Machina.

 

If even one thing about Space Magic, mages, Time Travel or somehow end bosses with supernatural op powers appear, I will throw the game under the bus. Anyway, I just hope it will be the Arc Theory on how we get there and if the leak is true, it will be fine for me.

[Ahriman]

I'm pretty sure there won't be any time travel. It's Pandora's box you can never close. Schlerf is not Asimov, but he certainly knows that.

Fans have suggested dozen of convenient ways without time travel, Bioware writers aren't worse.

[Kabooooom]

Except they don't have to move the setting to deal with the endings its completely unnecessary.

It only become obvious when the leak came out, but before then what Bioware was doing with the next game was still up for debate.

You are confusing obviousness with hindsight. Everything is obvious in hindsight. Some things are obvious without hindsight.

This is one of those things. If it wasnt obvious, we couldn't have correctly predicted that - of ALL things - the story would take place in Andromeda. Over a year ago. With no info. Lucky guess? No, it was a deduction based on common sense.

Which some here seem to lack. Even in hindsight.

[ziyon conqueror]

I think the focus will be on The Milky Way species being treated as invaders and an outside or mysterious threat and us trying to establish a new home in spite of all this.

 

Take it from the perspective of this new galaxy's species, here comes a mysterious massive fleet of strange species they've never seen despite these mysterious new species being so scientifically advanced and they embed themselves in the middle of this galactic conflict for unknown reasons.

 

These Andromedan species have every right to fear us.

 

Our perspective is that we are fleeing an uncertain fate that would most likely be a galactic annihilation and destruction of everything we know. We are leaving behind everything we know and making a terrifying journey to a place strange and alien to us and we find ourselves in the middle of this galactic conflict and we are apprehensive and scared in our own right but determined and with nothing to lose.

 

It will be damn interesting to play and see the story they give us against this backdrop as much as I didn't want to abandon The Milky Way.

 

I also think it's possible they will add a link to the Mass Effect universe by having a connection between some little known species lore from The Milky Way and these new Andromeda species.

 

Incidentally how is the translator going to work with these new species as i'm sure their languages will be unlike anything we have seen. They won't understand us and we won't understand them so we're going to have to have our scientists study them and update the Omnitool translators real quick

I had the same idea.

[ziyon conqueror]

Here are my theories on the plot:

 

• Assuming from a Refuse ending, Milky Way refugees flee on a long voyage to Andromeda when the Crucible fails. Discovering Remnant tech helps them either establish dominance in Andromeda or a way of retaking the Milky Way
• Assuming from either one of the other endings, refugees take intergalactic voyage assuming the fight is lost, just as they leave, they are hit by the Crucible blast (may have been affected by Synthesis wave or manage to outrun it)
• Like from the whole of the trilogy until ME3, the leaders of the refugee (possibly the Council if they escaped the capture of the Citadel) would be hesitant to believe that there's a new apocalyptic threat like the Reapers. Protagonist can remind them of how the Council foolishly disregarded Shepard's warning about the Reapers)
• Game may start some time after the Milky Way races start colonizing.
• A narrator starts with a recap of all that's happened so far (unless another narrator does so in a sequel Mass Effect: Genesis 3)

[Drone223]

You are confusing obviousness with hindsight. Everything is obvious in hindsight. Some things are obvious without hindsight.

This is one of those things. If it wasnt obvious, we couldn't have correctly predicted that - of ALL things - the story would take place in Andromeda. Over a year ago. With no info. Lucky guess? No, it was a deduction based on common sense.

Which some here seem to lack. Even in hindsight.

If it was that obvious then most of the discussion about the next game would've been dominated by the fact the game was set in another galaxy long before the leaks were released. But before then, what Bioware was doing with the next game still could have been any ones guess because there was nothing to prove the fact that the game was going to be in another galaxy, it was all concept art and pre-alpha footage that was subject to change.

[Killroy]

Ark goes through a wormhole to Andromeda during events of ME3, colonies must be started, mysteries must be solved, new enemies must be defeated, new big-bad of the Andromeda galaxy is hinted at, the galaxy is begging to be explored further, the end.

[SolNebula]

The plot? We are the space Hernan Cortez of ME and we go on colonial and killing spree. To exterminate civilize Andromeda primitives. Bringing diseases they never had and building new Mass Relays with the local slave labor force. What could possibly go wrong?

 

 

Also a Renegade protagonist should have Javik style answers to the locals.

[The Arbiter]

We will invade bring democracy to aliens who just protecting her home from evil humans savages who don't accept our peaceful ways, by force.

Correct! 

[9TailsFox]

The plot? We are the space Hernan Cortez of ME and we go on colonial and killing spree. To exterminate civilize Andromeda primitives. Bringing diseases they never had and building new Mass Relays with the local slave labor force. What could possibly go wrong?

 

 

Also a Renegade protagonist should have Javik style answers to the locals.

[Kabooooom]

If it was that obvious then most of the discussion about the next game would've been dominated by the fact the game was set in another galaxy long before the leaks were released. But before then, what Bioware was doing with the next game still could have been any ones guess because there was nothing to prove the fact that the game was going to be in another galaxy, it was all concept art and pre-alpha footage that was subject to change.

Much of the discussion about the plot of the next game WAS dominated by the game taking place in another galaxy long before the leaks were released. Like a year before them. There were multiple, massive threads about Andromeda back then.

And I'm pretty sure you were around then, as I distinctly remember you objecting to the concept back then as well and saying that it couldn't possibly be true.

[Drone223]

Much of the discussion about the plot of the next game WAS dominated by the game taking place in another galaxy long before the leaks were released. Like a year before them. There were multiple, massive threads about Andromeda back then.
And I'm pretty sure you were around then, as I distinctly remember you objecting to the concept back then as well and saying that it couldn't possibly be true.

It wasn't, there was only one or two threads about and only a handful of people were discussing, it in only became more discussed when the leaks came out.