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[Liamv2]

Haven't played either. Still think comparing them is stupid.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

eh, TW3 is a bit too slavic for my tastes

[hoechlbear]

There are just as many people that feel Inquisition was better all around, but you don't see them over on the CDPR forum trolling their fan base making dozens of threads.

 

Maybe because most, if not all of the people here who prefer TW3 to DAI are actually DA fans (or fans of both franchises) and not just some random TW fans that hate every game that isn't TW. They are probably active on this forum for quite some time now so they aren't posting here just to annoy DA fans because they are fans themselves. You just have to look at the icons under their names and see that they played previous Bioware games. I don't get why people get so offended when others say they prefer TW3 to DAI. It's their opinion, this is a forum, they are giving their feedback, both games are similar in genre so there's always going to be comparisons. DAI was compared to other games many times in this forum (like Skyrim) and I don't remember seeing people getting annoyed by it. But when it's TW3 it's a different story.

 

 

There is an actual constructive thread in Feedback for this subject, yet we keep seeing these threads pop up all over this forum. They all say the same thing, and end up with the same fights between the same people. Enough is enough already.  I really hope the mods get off their asses and start closing these things down since they technically violate forum rules.

 

You can say that for every thread in here. Every week there are topics being created which discuss things that have been discussed already in other threads. And maybe these TW3 threads end up in fights because some people don't seem to be able to understand that other DA fans might not like DAI but still be a DA fan. True, sometimes these TW3 posts can be a bit strong and others may not be that eloquent (but the later could be because the poster doesn't speak English that well) but I often see people giving genuine feedback on why they prefer TW3 but they still get replies along the lines of "here we go again", or "another fanboy" or just sarcastic images and memes. Why not ignore the thread instead if it annoys you so much? Report it if you want, but if you add fuel to the fire then you're just equally guilty of starting a fight. Instead, why don't you say why you prefer DAI to TW3? Actually give some constructive feedback instead of adopting such a defensive position and hiss at whoever dares to dislike DAI. (I'm saying you, but it's a "you" in general, not directed at you you. lol)

 

When I have something to say about TW3 I always post on the thread on the feedback section and I agree that people should post there since the thread is still very much active to this day, but it frustrates me when I see others being so dismissive and sometimes even rude just because someone said they think TW3 is better than DAI. :\

[abisha]

Haven't played either. Still think comparing them is stupid.

 

why do you think that?

[Liamv2]

why do you think that?

 

While they both are in a fantasy setting the two plots have a very different scale and goals. DA:I seems to be very choson one saves the world while TW3 is a more personal story.

[Elhanan]

If it were left to simple A > B posts, don't believe it would incur much of a reaction other than the obvious B > A replies. But when there is a lack of constructive criticism, and the posts are more about belittling the devs, fans, and other game itself, then the reactions are also going to be somewhat more intense.

Still not getting TW3, so no comparison for moi, but continue to enjoy DAI; this time as a female Elven Mage with a bit of chip on her shoulder concerning her people, the Dalish. And this has already altered a little bit, as the info gathered in the game informs me that her Clan is more accepting than most. Guess it sometimes pays off to read the entries occasionally....

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

While they both are in a fantasy setting the two plots have a very different scale and goals. DA:I seems to be very choson one saves the world while TW3 is a more personal story.

actually TW3 is about a chosen one saving the world too

[Liamv2]

actually TW3 is about a chosen one saving the world too

[Mr.House]

actually TW3 is about a chosen one saving the world too

No it's not, that's CDPs stupid retcon that has no place in the series and is part of the many issues with act 3. Act1+2 completely and utterly destroy DAI. Act 3 is where tW3 pretty much goes into DAI quality in writing. The retcons, silly changes and overall rushness is sad.

[Liamv2]

No it's not, that's CDPs stupid retcon that has no place in the series and is part of the many issues with act 3. Act1+2 completely and utterly destroy DAI. Act 3 is where tW3 pretty much goes into DAI quality in writing. The retcons, silly changes and overall rushness is sad.

 

Still relevant.

 

[SlottsMachine]

Both games need more boobs.

[Mr.House]

Still relevant.

Act 3 sucks anyways, hardly anyone will defend it. It's still talked about on the CDP forums and even CDP has talked about it and how they are not happy about it, or the politics.

 

Better then Bioware and there artistic integrity bs.

[Mr.House]

Both games need more boobs.

TW3 needs more unicorn sex with Yen tbh.

[slimgrin]

There's more Witcher threads on BSN than there are at CDPR's site.

[Kabraxal]

No it's not, that's CDPs stupid retcon that has no place in the series and is part of the many issues with act 3. Act1+2 completely and utterly destroy DAI. Act 3 is where tW3 pretty much goes into DAI quality in writing. The retcons, silly changes and overall rushness is sad.

If that were the case, act three should have been awesome. TW3 was well written, but i found da:i to be better written. Especially since the main story in da builds to a logical climax while tw3 was never that tight to beging with. The side quests in tw were better than tge main quest... Kind of wish some of them were the focus over the rather dull wild hunt chasing ciri. Tgat actually felt more like a side quest most times.

[sammael]

ok to not further upset the DA:I fans, lets insteed compare it to the other DA games, or is that also forbidden?

take DA:O and all the possible ways you could build your character, i dont know how many times i played it due to the wast majority of options i was given to build it up, a tanking mage, suport warrior or whatever you wished to play, insteed of leting us play as we whant to play the characters they limit it down giving you pretty much no options at all, insteed they have put focus on making huge lifeless areas with the same type of fetch sidequests.

 

And insteed of leting me play the game as i whant to play it, they force me to alot of these pointless sidequests for the only reason alone to gather Power to be able to progress with the story, the actual part of the game i whant to play, i finnished one playthrough and after i started a new one but couldent force myself to play again for the only reason that i know im gonna be FORCED to do all them damn sidequests again.

 

And insteed of making sidequests like a smal story and let you interract with NPC´s, 90% of all them sidequests you get from picking up scolls on the ground or bodies, is it to much to ask for that they put swome thought or imagination into the game they whant us to pay for?

[sammael]

TW3 was well written, but i found da:i to be better written. Especially since the main story in da builds to a logical climax while tw3 was never that tight to beging with.

thats the thing, there was no climax in DA:I, they made a really good solid ground for it, gathering your armies, support and allies all over, build up skyhold and all that, and in the end it was pointless, it was not needed, you could just have skiped most part of the story since it dident give anything, in the end it was your party vs cory and Everything you build was pointless, they could have made an Epic end battle or something and given the game a real climax

 

[Mr.House]

If that were the case, act three should have been awesome. TW3 was well written, but i found da:i to be better written. Especially since the main story in da builds to a logical climax while tw3 was never that tight to beging with. The side quests in tw were better than tge main quest... Kind of wish some of them were the focus over the rather dull wild hunt chasing ciri. Tgat actually felt more like a side quest most times.

Act 3 suffers from massive retcons, character white washing, characters going out of character, the elementary level politics getting worse ect. It's the worst act in the game and even CDP agrees it was not as good as it should have been and there is a massive inconsistency of quality from act 1+2 to act 3.

 

Also DAI hardly had a logical climax or even a good one. It's no better then TW3s climax nor was it tighter then act 1+2.

 

I can count on my hand the stuff in DAI that even comes close to act 1+2 for me.

[Br3admax]

Yeah, and while I agree TW3's final act should have been better, DA:I's "third act" was by far the most anticlimactic thing I could possibly imagine, "We've been stomping Cory since Haven. Let's go do it again." It's typical BioWare, so well written doesn't even come into play. Just smile at the characters and slug through it. 

[slimgrin]

Act 3 suffers from massive retcons, character white washing, characters going out of character, the elementary level politics getting worse ect. It's the worst act in the game and even CDP agrees it was not as good as it should have been and there is a massive inconsistency of quality from act 1+2 to act 3.

 

Also DAI hardly had a logical climax or even a good one. It's no better then TW3s climax nor was it tighter then act 1+2.

 

I can count on my hand the stuff in DAI that even comes close to act 1+2 for me.

 

It's weird so few critics recognized how the writing tanks. I literally read one review that mentions the inconsistencies. At any rate, it makes me sad as I'm early in the game and have yet to find out what they botched, but judging from the furor on the forums, they dropped the ball pretty hard with politics, Eredin and with Triss. The latter is going to make me angry because to me she was such a crucial character. and I was afraid they'd shaft her in favor of Yen. In some ways, the books have been a curse for them and I'm glad they won't be beholden to so much lore in Cyberpunk 2077. One thing to note is that they switched lead writers and maybe Marcin Blacha isn't the talent that Sebastian Stepian is, who was lead writer for TW2 and now Cyberpunk. 

[Jock Cranley]

Act 3 sucks anyways, hardly anyone will defend it. It's still talked about on the CDP forums and even CDP has talked about it and how they are not happy about it, or the politics.

 

Better then Bioware and there artistic integrity bs.

 

I had almost forgotten about that artistic integrity sack of horse ****. Thanks for bringing it up again.

[Han Shot First]

The Witcher 3 was far superior to Dragon Age: Inquisition in terms of storytelling. 

 

A large part of that was that the side content in DA:I was largely light on story or atmosphere or felt like filler content to pad out the large open world maps with something to do. In contrast TW3's side content was quite often as thick with story or atmosphere as its main quests. 

 

Bioware should definitely be looking more to TW3 than DA:I as a template for how to execute the side content in Mass Effect: Andromeda.

[In Exile]

The Witcher 3 was far superior to Dragon Age: Inquisition in terms of storytelling. 

 

A large part of that was that the side content in DA:I was largely light on story or atmosphere or felt like filler content to pad out the large open world maps with something to do. In contrast TW3's side content was quite often as thick with story or atmosphere as its main quests. 

 

Bioware should definitely be looking more to TW3 than DA:I as a template for how to execute the side content in Mass Effect: Andromeda.

 

TW3 did what Bioware used to do with e.g. DA:O, JE and KoTOR, whereby the "main side quests" (i.e., the stuff that was pure filler) effectively attached to the main quest, and you essentially had to finish most of the essentially "side" content to progress the MQ. For example, all the stuff sorrounding the Bloody Baron in TW3 is a side quest, but it's intricately bound up with the MQ. All this content is the equivalent of companion content in DA:I. By that in a Bioware game, after the crit. path, companions seem to get the next most investment of resources. In TW3, after the crit path, it's the "main" side quests like the Bloody Baron stuff and the Crones. 

 

DA:I just outright doesn't have that type of content. It's akin to ME1 in that regard, but with a lot more filler. And not very good filler. The other thing TW3 does is that it takes the same kind of trash content DA:I has (and TW3 has a lot of that style of content, e.g. stuff akin to cleaning rifts, i.e., bandit camp and monster nests) and adds just barely enough polish on it that the feature stays fresh longer and makes the world feel alive (e.g. cleaning some areas of bandits/monsters brings back NPCs, gives you a vendor, and makes you feel like you're altering the world). 

 

This is, IMO, a lot less about storytelling and a lot more about design. Bioware's just missing direction at the design level, and they have been ever since the Xbox 360 game about and really improved the ability to tell stories in 3D. Bioware's never adapted past what worked as a design in isometric 2D RPGs.  

[Br3admax]

I own DA:O, Jade Empire, and KotOR, and pretty much none of the Side Quest tie into the main quest at all. 

[Kabraxal]

Act 3 suffers from massive retcons, character white washing, characters going out of character, the elementary level politics getting worse ect. It's the worst act in the game and even CDP agrees it was not as good as it should have been and there is a massive inconsistency of quality from act 1+2 to act 3.
 
Also DAI hardly had a logical climax or even a good one. It's no better then TW3s climax nor was it tighter then act 1+2.
 
I can count on my hand the stuff in DAI that even comes close to act 1+2 for me.

Exact opposite for me. I enjoyed the climax of da:i and only one scene in TW3 even came close to DA's level: the drinking scene in kaer morhen. To me, the main focus in TW3 should have been either the war or fully the wild hunt. Instead it was mostly a series of disjointed quests that left me feeling like most of the real story was told off screen. With the ending of DA:I, the focus was on the right story and there was some closure despite this clearly being another step in a continuing world. For a final story og geralt, there wasn't much of an appropiate closing story.