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[TheChris92]

I'll let you know once I finish either one of them.

 

I recall enjoying Dragon Age inquisition a lot, specifically more than any of those Mass Effect sequels. I really do need to finish it along with some other games.

[sammael]

Exact opposite for me. I enjoyed the climax of da:i and only one scene in TW3 even came close to DA's level: the drinking scene in kaer morhen. To me, the main focus in TW3 should have been either the war or fully the wild hunt. Instead it was mostly a series of disjointed quests that left me feeling like most of the real story was told off screen. With the ending of DA:I, the focus was on the right story and there was some closure despite this clearly being another step in a continuing world. For a final story og geralt, there wasn't much of an appropiate closing story.

i would really like to know wich scence that are, the only memorable scen in DA:I for me was the one after the fall of haven, the singing, and even that couldent compare to the same scene in TW3, the tavern scene and the bard song, the emotion from the crowd and the camera work was amazing

 

[sammael]

Can not speak of the drama of TW3, but one does not require a cut-scene or cinematics to convey emotion; ask someone that actually reads occasionally. And I do not recall being forced to do side content; chose to so willingly. Actually, many have reportedly became stuck in the Hinterlands by not following the MQ, so this accusation seems to be without merit.

Maby you shouldent come with stupid accusations about things you dont really know anything about, personally read most of the big fantasy titels out there, so yea i do exactly know.

And you are FORCED to do sidecontent, if you dont you wont have enough Power to be able to unlock new areas so you can continue the game, and if you say its possible to do ONLY the main missions, maby you should actually play the game Before you speak, i was one of them who stayed in hinterlands longer then i could have, did Everything i could, same with the second area, after that i pretty much dident seal any rifts or do any sidecontent at all and still dident have enough Power to unlock the last areas

 

[Funkcase]

I don't think much of the main plot of either game, they're both your standard RPG cliche in terms of their main plot. I think the Witcher has better-developed side quests and some awesome characters. Inquisition has some decent side quests (with some awful fetch quests thrown in), and some superb characters. I think that the main plot of the Witcher is slightly more enjoyable out of the two, however, I think that Dorian and The Iron Bull far surpass all of The Witcher's cast of characters.

[Liamv2]

I don't think much of the main plot of either game, they're both your standard RPG cliche in terms of their main plot. I think the Witcher has better-developed side quests and some awesome characters. Inquisition has some decent side quests (with some awful fetch quests thrown in), and some superb characters. I think that the main plot of the Witcher is slightly more enjoyable out of the two, however, I think that Dorian and The Iron Bull far surpass all of The Witcher's cast of characters.

 

It's almost like both games have their positives and negatives but are all round great games or something. How is such a thing possible?!

[Cheylus]

Main quests in TW3 are well written but are also "excuses". "Favor to favor to favor to favor to favor to favor" from White Orchard to Skellige sucks. I felt like a tourist. Dialogs are very well-written, side quests are better than DA:I's too, characters are interesting and some scenes are brilliant. Storytelling is indeed better in TW3. Technical aspects (animations especially) helped TW3 to surpass DA:I in many ways.

 

But I ultimately think DA:I story was more solid. Why? Corypheus had long-term plans with Templars/Mages, with Gaspard/Celene (foretold in the book), with the Wardens (foretold in a DLC). As for archetypes, for instance... I liked Vivienne more than TW3's Philippa, Solas way more than Avallac'h... Dandelion and Zoltan again while BioWare renewed the cast while making old characters interesting. 

Meanwhile, the Wild Hunt and Eredin... It doesn't work. Even one of the main character's death meant nothing to me, because you need a main character to die to pump your hatred for the villain. That's "standard"; I saw it from miles away. I didn't see Letho and Philippa, nor Alvin, from miles away...

(the Bloody Baron is still a masterpiece)

 

The save import was "better" in DA:I too. At least I feel like I actually played a 3-games series. TW3 felt like a standalone. BioWare actually "struggled" with import, and managed to do something worthwhile. CDPR didn't deliver. Letho's cameo in particular was terrible. 

 

The White Frost at the end of TW3 (the whole part about fighting the Hunt and the White Frost thing) was even worst than ME3 to me, not because it was worst per se, but because I didn't expect a "assemble armies" and "go through a beam to fight a concept" in a CDPR game. 

You don't end a very good series like that.

 

It's also BioWare's lore, and they did an amazing job at expanding it in DA:I. 

TW3 is TW1+TW2+Books+Open world. Not a big step for the series. They even managed to destroy some of their best characters (Letho, Philippa, Radovid, DIJKSTRA...).

 

I enjoyed both games for different reasons, but TW3 doesn't win "hands down" in every aspects. Far from it. 

[Kabraxal]

i would really like to know wich scence that are, the only memorable scen in DA:I for me was the one after the fall of haven, the singing, and even that couldent compare to the same scene in TW3, the tavern scene and the bard song, the emotion from the crowd and the camera work was amazing

See, the bard scene was nothing special to me. As for da: iron bull's choice, the game night, many sera scenes, skyhold, Blackwall's reveal, the solas reveal, several leliana/morgan scenes... I could go on. I always felt TW franchise to lack the soul or charm Bioware games have. In fact, the drinking scene was the only scene i felt the games had that actually showed a true deep interaction between characters. It finally felt like a real relationship with history actually feeling like it informed the interactions.

[Funkcase]

It's almost like both games have their positives and negatives but are all round great games or something. How is such a thing possible?!

 

You are quite right. What is this outlandish notion of games being considered mutually good? We must bicker some more to determine which is the greatest! :') 

 

 

[Elhanan]

Maby you shouldent come with stupid accusations about things you dont really know anything about, personally read most of the big fantasy titels out there, so yea i do exactly know.
And you are FORCED to do sidecontent, if you dont you wont have enough Power to be able to unlock new areas so you can continue the game, and if you say its possible to do ONLY the main missions, maby you should actually play the game Before you speak, i was one of them who stayed in hinterlands longer then i could have, did Everything i could, same with the second area, after that i pretty much dident seal any rifts or do any sidecontent at all and still dident have enough Power to unlock the last areas

Actually meant reading the letters, journals, and Codex entries in the game; skip all the books myself.

And one may perform find Power from various sources besides sidequests; finding the various camp sites and Keeps, closing rifts, and exploring for landmarks are my personal choices. Gaining Power is easy, unless one is focused on avoiding it for some biased reason.

Also recommend the Ignore function; it helps remove annoyances.

[sammael]

See, the bard scene was nothing special to me. As for da: iron bull's choice, the game night, many sera scenes, skyhold, Blackwall's reveal, the solas reveal, several leliana/morgan scenes... I could go on. I always felt TW franchise to lack the soul or charm Bioware games have. In fact, the drinking scene was the only scene i felt the games had that actually showed a true deep interaction between characters. It finally felt like a real relationship with history actually feeling like it informed the interactions.

Personally i dont even recall any of those scence, and that could be mostly becouse i was so sick of having to do them damn fetch quests to get more Power to move the game forward, and that i can only blame bioware for, a series of game that i enjoyed alot up until now,and recall alot of powerfull, emotional scences from TW3, the interractions between characters felt more realistic, DA:I seamed to me more like a pupeteer show, compared even to the other DA games, the only characters in DA:I i enjoyed was morrigan, varric and flemeth, al the other was kinda dull and uninterresting, well sera also, mostly just damn annoying and never really used her, so no real opinion about her

 

[NeonFlux117]

Comments like these makes me lose faith in humanity.

Then you better toughen up a bit, it's a cold world.

[Akrabra]

Then you better toughen up a bit, it's a cold world.

That is true.

[Kabraxal]

Then you better toughen up a bit, it's a cold world.

Only made worse by **** attitudes like this.

[xPez]

I'm starting to regret my decision to try and defend this thread

 

I didn't actually realise there was a pretty long thread in Feedback & Suggestions that fits this discussion better, so I'm going to echo what previous posters have said and recommend the discussion is taken there.

 

http://forum.bioware...itcher-3/page-1

 

 

 

EDIT: No need actually, just noticed that this thread has been moved to Off Topic.

 

One last thing though, to those saying that it specifically shouldn't have been in Scuttlebutt. I actually agree, but look at the description of the sub-forum, then look at the first page of threads. How many of those actually meet the stated purpose?

[Simfam]

This thread is

 

[panzerwzh]

War war never changes. As for story telling and character development, TW3 is far more better than any game in Arawak series.

[Mr.House]

This thread is

 

It's amusing, I enjoy both games and both have their flaws. It's kinda sad when DAI has better politics then TW3 :/

 

I wish act 3 Dijkstra would crawl in a hole and go away.

[Simfam]

Act 3 Dijksta clearly received the wrong script.

 

No wonder he was so wtf.

[Mr.House]

Act 3 Dijksta clearly received the wrong script.

 

No wonder he was so wtf.

Even Bioware can't make a character go OOC that hard.

[Simfam]

Even Bioware can't make a character go OOC that hard.

 

>killthem

>mfw

 

[Mr.House]

>killthem

>mfw

 

Nah best part is when he personally joins the fray.

 

I miss book/Novigrad Dijkstra ;_;

[Simfam]

Nah best part is when he personally joins the fray.

 

I miss book/Novigrad Dijkstra ;_;

 

Hey!

 

Everybody knows a large axe can solve everything!

[Ozzy]

Is Corypheus more developed than Eredin?

 

That's a problem. 

[Akrabra]

Is Corypheus more developed than Eredin?

 

That's a problem. 

He has more lines of dialogue atleast. Quite a few more actually.

[MisterJB]

 

Dragon Age Inquisition has a better story than The Witcher 3 which includes its treatment of politics.

I am 100% serious and I will stand by this.

 

First, shall we look at the main villain?

 

Corypheus has few lines and a great number of them are "I will be a god".

With that being said, we do receive hints at the why he doing all of this in Calpernia's quests (he longs to gives the world a purpose) and, ultimately, he is just a better villain.

He had allies in both the mages and the Templars' camps with clear plans on how to add them to his army. He manipulated the Wardens into summoning an army for him. He sought to assassinate the Empress and blame it on the one person who could keep stability after her death in order to soften Orlais for the invasion by his force. These plans are actually reminiscent of Emhyr's in TW2.

Basically, Corypheus has multiple plots complementing each other through Thedas which are intricrate and believable.

 

Eredin runs after Ciri and has...five lines outside of combat? His whole plan is "We teleport to where Ciri is and grab her"

 

Clearly, Corypheus is the better villain.

 

And what about politics? I never thought I would say this, but Dragon Age did politics better than The Witcher.

The politics in TW2 were easily the best part of the game and perhaps, the most well done out of any game ever.

TW3? There's Radovid who does nothing but go crazy and becomes a villain for literally no reason "Your arrogance offends me, witcher." and Emhyr who also does nothing. And these are the geniuses.

 

DA3 actually had Celene and Gaspard and Briala. Each with realistic goals that placed them at odd and actually trying to checkmate each other in the Winter Palace through various plots. The Inquisitor can then play the Game to remove those he does not support and even blackmail all three.

Sometimes the justification for is flimsy at best; for instance, the evidence against Gaspard; but it's still better than TW3.

 

And what about the ending where Ciri defeats an enemy that is never explained how she does it or why she chose that particular moment to do it. It even goes against the theme of the novels since it was never hinted it could be defeated, just outrunned which was what Eredin was trying to do.

it's like the writers realized "Oh yeah, we promised the prophecies would be fulfilled" and then glued in the end of the world for no reason.