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it is like my Old Locked Kotor Trilogy thread.

 

 

What do you want to keep, add or change to Kotor 1 and Kotor 2?

 

Also what do you want to see within Kotor 3?

 

 

Also Post Anything that relates to Kotor. And yes I do appreciate Bioware for making a good game.


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I think in order to remaster a trilogy, you have to have had a trilogy in the first place.

 

Although since I'm here, I want to throw the combat system out the airlock and replace it with a combat system that doesn't make me want to throw it out the airlock.


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Make Zaalbar romanceable. 

 

We need some fur stroking in glorious HD. 


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Honestly, I think it's time to finally let this one go. I have my doubts on KotOR 3 being any better than what TOR can muster. 


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Make Zaalbar romanceable. 

 

We need some fur stroking in glorious HD. 

 

 

there is nothing wrong with loving good wookiee. and good points to Cyonan. Well True Kotor is a duology and not a trilogy. Many want a trilogy. so why the heck not have a kotor 3.



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SWtOR broke SWKotoR I&II, there will be no 3


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Remaster the first 2, fix the bugs (especially the frame rate problems in 2) and add the "Droid Factory" mission from 2

 

The gameplay is good enough that the lack of a clear ending is no big deal



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Speaking of a remaster, it will never happen since EA is not interested in this sort of thing and TOR is still exist.



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I would do a remaster in the ToR engine. Just keep the gameplay as is, maybe polish it abit and promote it as a prequel to ToR. Ofc then you will have the problem with Revan beeing male in canon and Exile beeing female, but hey could still work. I have given up hope on Kotor 3 a long time ago, though i would want that game to finish off the Arc with both Revan and the Exile, but seeing as ToR has done that there is no way back. What would Kotor 3 even be about? 


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Well ToR is not canon and Kotor 1 and 2 are not canon anymore.  So you can have a Remaster Version of Kotor 1 and 2 without having TOR. 



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Ah yes, the trilogy. I definitely remember KOTOR 3. It was amazing and, unlike ME3 ending, totally delivered!


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Ah yes, the trilogy. I definitely remember KOTOR 3. It was amazing and, unlike ME3 ending, totally delivered!

 

no kidding, it was amazing. It has Ajunta Pall and Revan facing Markos Ragnos and winning.



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Ah yes, the trilogy. I definitely remember KOTOR 3. It was amazing and, unlike ME3 ending, totally delivered!

 

Man, do you remember that part where Shepard showed up to team up with Mecha-Malak and Super Sayan 2 Revan? I know people were critical because Shepard was obviously shoehorned in as an LI for HK-47, but I thought it was a badass scene. 


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Man, do you remember that part where Shepard showed up to team up with Mecha-Malak and Super Sayan 2 Revan? I know people were critical because Shepard was obviously shoehorned in as an LI for HK-47, but I thought it was a badass scene. 

 

Did they digivolve?



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Did they digivolve?

 

Dude, spoilers! Not everyone got the Digimon DLC. 


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Well ToR is not canon and Kotor 1 and 2 are not canon anymore.  So you can have a Remaster Version of Kotor 1 and 2 without having TOR. 

EA isn't going to overwrite their cash cow. And TOR was just as canon as the others was under Lucas. 



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Did they digivolve?

 

 

yes they did 


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EA isn't going to overwrite their cash cow. And TOR was just as canon as the others was under Lucas. 

 

 

Disney is starting with a clean slate when they took control of Star Wars. The Movies are canon, so are the 2 cartoon series but Not TOR. 

 

 

STARWARS.COM TEAM APRIL 17, 20154:12 PM

Are The Old Republic expansions canon?

STARWARS.COM TEAM APRIL 17, 20154:13 PM

No — BioWare “has created their own universe that is so fantastic,” we’re not going to change it, says Hidalgo.

 

 

http://www.starwars....-panel-liveblog

 

 

Also I do believe that Vitate storyline might be retcon due to lack of connection from the Knights of Fallen Empire Storyline. One of the reasons I do find it could be retcon due to what happen at Ziost and there is a new supposed Immortal Emperor that has little to no connection to Vitate or his empire.



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Disney is starting with a clean slate when they took control of Star Wars. The Movies are canon, so are the 2 cartoon series but Not TOR. 

 

 

STARWARS.COM TEAM APRIL 17, 20154:12 PM

Are The Old Republic expansions canon?

STARWARS.COM TEAM APRIL 17, 20154:13 PM

No — BioWare “has created their own universe that is so fantastic,” we’re not going to change it, says Hidalgo.

 

 

http://www.starwars....-panel-liveblog

I'm aware. The "new" canon policy has been in effect for a long time now. The point was, it's not going to happen. EA will never overwrite their just as valid story because reasons. 

 

Also I do believe that Vitate storyline might be retcon due to lack of connection from the Knights of Fallen Empire Storyline. One of the reasons I do find it could be retcon due to what happen at Ziost and there is a new supposed Immortal Emperor that has little to no connection to Vitate or his empire.

Yeah, that's not going to happen either. More likely than not, Vitiate will be dealt with in a few operations, or well get put in carbonite and the Infinite Empire will deal with him. Regardless, as much as he might deserve it, he's not going underneath the rug, 


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I'm aware. The "new" canon policy has been in effect for a long time now. The point was, it's not going to happen. EA will never overwrite their just as valid story because reasons. 

 
 

Yeah, that's not going to happen either. More likely than not, Vitiate will be dealt with in a few operations, or well get put in carbonite and the Infinite Empire will deal with him. Regardless, as much as he might deserve it, he's not going underneath the rug, 

 

 

what I am suggest is retcon some elements but I will never suggest a total Retcon of The Old Republic. I would suggest an more balance view in that fans and Developers demands. 

 

I am the school of Thought that Revan and Jedi Exile shouldn't be within The Old Republic and The Old Republic is a good enough game to have them NOT within the game itself. 



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We're not ever getting a KotOR III. As far as I'm aware, TOR is the last active vestige/plot of the pre-Disney Expanded Universe as a whole, not just for the BW or EA.

 

There was an article out about a year ago or so where Disney and EA were apparently having friction in their relationship because Disney apparently wanted EA to can TOR and work on an a new game within 'their' timeline. EA wasn't doing it because of their $200+ million investment in TOR, and how it hasn't been paid off yet (let alone EA didn't expect it to be paid off for another decade, seeing as it was meant to be long-term). 

 

I'll stop myself before I start rambling. No sense in me getting worked up over something that's set in stone. 

 

I still don't know why Disney had to lock the EU that wasn't theirs. Seriously, just label it Legends and an Alternate continuity and let it flow. You'd make money off it either way, and it was pretty self-sustaining. Although you would have to contract authors for it, it'd be no different than for your regular series. 

 

I'm sure I'm missing some business or finance angle, but Disney just seems to have taken the toy, screamed 'MINE!', and written their label all over it. 

 

I'm done. No more SW fanhood for me. And I'm basking in the irony of it all for me.


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We're not ever getting a KotOR III. As far as I'm aware, TOR is the last active vestige/plot of the pre-Disney Expanded Universe as a whole, not just for the BW or EA.

 

There was an article out about a year ago or so where Disney and EA were apparently having friction in their relationship because Disney apparently wanted EA to can TOR and work on an a new game within 'their' timeline. EA wasn't doing it because of their $200+ million investment in TOR, and how it hasn't been paid off yet (let alone EA didn't expect it to be paid off for another decade, seeing as it was meant to be long-term). 

 

I'll stop myself before I start rambling. No sense in me getting worked up over something that's set in stone. 

 

I still don't know why Disney had to lock the EU that wasn't theirs. Seriously, just label it Legends and an Alternate continuity and let it flow. You'd make money off it either way, and it was pretty self-sustaining. Although you would have to contract authors for it, it'd be no different than for your regular series. 

 

I'm sure I'm missing some business or finance angle, but Disney just seems to have taken the toy, screamed 'MINE!', and written their label all over it. 

 

I'm done. No more SW fanhood for me. And I'm basking in the irony of it all for me.

 

 

well your opinion is completely understandable



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I'll stop myself before I start rambling. No sense in me getting worked up over something that's set in stone. 

 

I still don't know why Disney had to lock the EU that wasn't theirs. Seriously, just label it Legends and an Alternate continuity and let it flow. You'd make money off it either way, and it was pretty self-sustaining. Although you would have to contract authors for it, it'd be no different than for your regular series. 

 

I'm sure I'm missing some business or finance angle, but Disney just seems to have taken the toy, screamed 'MINE!', and written their label all over it. 

 

I'm done. No more SW fanhood for me. And I'm basking in the irony of it all for me.

The reason The Mouse locked all the previous EU is so they didn't have to worry about sticking to the continuity of all the previous EU. So they can do whatever the **** they want with all the post RoTJ movies without having to make sure it sticks to all the previous canon. Rather than having all us fanboy/girls and EU geeks going "Um, Disney Han's blaster has a scratch mark under the barrel from where he fought the Big Kazoo on Gorlon 8. And it isn't there!" Or "OMG Disney! Leia was trying to track down Anakin during such and such, and you have her doing so and so when that never happened in the EU."

 

So they said FK it all previous EU is non-canon. Which if we want to be technical, GL has said previously that the only things really set in stone are the movies. Even before Micky. And it was probably decided to end the previous EU out right, rather than in tandem with the "New", so people wouldn't get confused. At least the latter is my speculation.


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As I said, they didn't have to lock the entire story, just say that it was not their canon and an AU. They even had a brand that they could slap on stories that weren't technically theirs (the "Legends" brand), which they could let people know what was part of their new canon and what wasn't. I'm not saying I disagree with your post, I'm just saying that it doesn't really answer why the pre-Disney EU had to be locked past, present, and future. I can't think of many of the EU purists that would complain if the films didn't follow the EU stories so long as we all had our own universe to worry about. 

 

Like the Star Trek series that's been rebooted. The original timeline still exists. The series is now focused on the movies, but the standard timeline still exists, is still canon in and of itself, and is still continued and expanded upon.

 

What Disney is doing is more or less revisionism: They're more or less trying to erase everything that existed that's not theirs (sans the movies and CW TV series). The shame is a lot of those stories were compelling, interesting, and very much Star Wars. The novels were rebounding after a down-period, the Legacy comics had a killer story that was very popular, Dark Horse was running things like pros, the games were going strong... And Disney isn't setting that aside so much as throwing it in the trash bin.



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well your opinion is completely understandable

 

I can see how others wouldn't view it as a problem, but for someone who was involved with and invested in the prior EU, it doesn't sit well with me. 

 

Disney is basically unpersoning the entire EU. And as I tried to explain as best as possible, they really don't need to go that far to get their point across that it's not their story.

 

Essentially, they're forcing their brand of the story on you while trying to hide the fact that the old was still thriving, strong, and remarkably consistent with itself (and trust me, it was). 

 

As I can't say enough times, they had no true need to lock it. Just let the EU fans know that their (the EU fans) universe is no longer the 'Prime' universe, so to speak, and that while it is no longer the official or canon universe, it still exists as an AU, and could be continued as such. I'd have been perfectly accepting of that. And so would most of the EU fans, and Disney, and the general ignorant populace at large. 

 

Disney had a chance to have their cake and eat it too. And they decided not to take the chance to make everyone happy by not capitalizing on it.