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[LemurFromTheId]

Jeez, people read innuendo into every innocent comment these days 

 

I know what you mean...

 

[BurningBlood]

3000 per cast sounds like it's a lot, but 3000 over 30 seconds makes it clear that it really isn't.

 

How do I even put that into perspective?

 

Well, considering that a Gold game takes about 20 minutes and that DC isn't always active and that sometimes DC is affecting health (or shields!) instead of armor or barriers, all that's essentially equivalent to getting a single extra Claymore shot per wave.

 

Claymore's and DC's combined DPS against primed armored targets is over 3000 (without headshots!), depending slightly on the exact build. Power Amp adds 98 to that. That's 3%.

 

Noticeable? Uh... I guess.

 

The problem is that you're comparing "DC + Claymore + Adrenaline" to "DC + no shooting + Power Amp".  You never specifically said so, but nowhere in your comparison did you factor in the damage of whatever non-Claymore gun the Power Amp player is using.  Of course the numbers are going to favour the Claymore by a ridiculous margin in that case.

[LemurFromTheId]

The problem is that you're comparing "DC + Claymore + Adrenaline" to "DC + no shooting + Power Amp".  You never specifically said so, but nowhere in your comparison did you factor in the damage of whatever non-Claymore gun the Power Amp player is using.  Of course the numbers are going to favour the Claymore by a ridiculous margin in that case.

 

wat

 

I'm comparing Claymore Huntress with Adrenaline to Claymore Huntress with Power Amp. The first gets to shoot and use powers more often because of better (and safer) movement, the latter deals slightly more power damage.

 

My argument is that the added power damage is quite insignificant portion of the total damage output.

 

And I repeat (again): at no point have I said that Power Amp is a bad choice for her. It just doesn't make much difference.

[Bud Halen]

My Huntress loves her pistol power mag and power amp. The basic Carnifex with HB has always been a trusty weapon on her.

That cloaked DC makes her a designated Banshee/Phantom killer. Not to mention every armored foe.

But since more than half of her combos come off an uncloaked warp, I cannot deal with cool down issues.

[PatrickBateman]

The CSMG is great on her, I use it all the time with her on platinum with very good results.

[ajscott819]

Just need to fire the power immediately followed by a claymore shot to break cloak. You know you got the rhythm down when the only cool down is from breaking cloak.

[BurningBlood]

 

I'm comparing Claymore Huntress with Adrenaline to Claymore Huntress with Power Amp.

Ah.  My bad.

[Bud Halen]

The CSMG is great on her, I use it all the time with her on platinum with very good results.

I've witnessed that as well. Saw a Huntress score 200k+ in a gold game on Jade vs bugs recently. Had an extended clip and power mag on it. Can't remember if it was drill or wrape ammo, but I was impressed regardless.

[Bud Halen]

Just need to fire the power immediately followed by a claymore shot to break cloak. You know you got the rhythm down when the only cool down is from breaking cloak.

I'll keep that rhythmic discipline with DC, but not so much when I'm looking for a detonation.

[Swan Killer]

6/6/6/6/0

 

Javelin+Warp Ammo, oh yes.

[ajscott819]

I'll keep that rhythmic discipline with DC, but not so much when I'm looking for a detonation.

Still works pretty with explosions. Just alternate DC and warp.

[Uncle JailBird Joey]

I personally like the Huntress w Krysae and Incid ammo....double splosions  + I make her look just like her character picture

[LemurFromTheId]

CSMG is indeed a good weapon on her - not as good as powerful shotguns, but still very good. Power Mag is still a waste of a mod slot, both HCB and HVB would increase the overall damage output more.

[PatrickBateman]

I've witnessed that as well. Saw a Huntress score 200k+ in a gold game on Jade vs bugs recently. Had an extended clip and power mag on it. Can't remember if it was drill or wrape ammo, but I was impressed regardless.

Extended mag is a must, I prefer the power magnifier over the high velocity barrel, I mainly use Drill rounds with it, I use the same for the ACA and Justicar as well, it synergies great with their power usage. The Claymore is good on her, but for platinum I definately prefer the CSMG.

[Darth Volus]

I use the Lancer because: 

 

 

 

But she's a pretty boring character to me, to be honest

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

HUNTRESS GOOD!! WE USUALLY RUN PALADIN WITH HER!! DARK CHANNEL EATS AWAY GOOD!! WISH VORCHA HAD CLOAK! GRAAAAGH!! MAKE FIRE EVEN MORE OP!!! WISH HUNTRESS HAD FIRE! WOULD BE EVEN BETTER!!! DARK CHANNEL AND FLAMER MELT THINGS REALLY FAST! SNEAKY SNEAKY BURNY BURNY!

[NuclearTech76]

Venom and arc pistol.

[SilentStep79]

Harrier.

[Cryos_Feron]

an extra 3000+ damage per cast over the duration of DC isn't especially negligible

who let's DC go its full duration?
Probably those who also take DC evolution 4b (duration) ;-)

this MP is so fast-paced - especially when you are in a good team.

I cannot say for sure what is better (power amp IV or Adrenaline) but I know for sure that Aedolon is right when he says that Power Amps are better used by power classes that have NOT inherent 160% TC-Power bonus....
(and don't rely on BE's as their main source of damage)

This is just relation-calculation.


Also, because of those 160% I specced her completely for weapon damage on her passives
because this is the field where she needs a buff, in order to keep up with a fast team.

[Smehur]

Crusader.

[ColonelKungPao]

Just tried the Claymore build. I like it a lot, but had to get used to the timing (I'd previously been using the Eagle). The only negative (if there is one) is that I don't get as many BEs because the Claymore kills mooks before the cooldown ends. 

[Loufi]

who let's DC go its full duration?
Probably those who also take DC evolution 4b (duration) ;-)

Well, you can also see it as +100 damage per second VS armor (+130 VS barriers), thus as an increase in how fast DC kills and spreads. I find that equiping a power amp 4 on the Huntress has a noticeable impact on Dark Channel.

 

However, I run my Huntress with the Suppressor (she's the only character I can stand the low ammo capacity of this gun with), so I can't tell wheter an adrenaline module is preferable for a Claymore Huntress.

[Excella Gionne]

Dat booty's goin' huntin'!

 

The only Huntress I know: 

[q5tyhj]

Well, you can also see it as +100 damage per second VS armor (+130 VS barriers), thus as an increase in how fast DC kills and spreads. I find that equiping a power amp 4 on the Huntress has a noticeable impact on Dark Channel.

 

However, I run my Huntress with the Suppressor (she's the only character I can stand the low ammo capacity of this gun with), so I can't tell wheter an adrenaline module is preferable for a Claymore Huntress.

From a min/max perspective, I don't doubt that it is, since its the same old guns>>>>>>powers, and even a marginal buff to ones weapon damage output is usually going to win out. But this is definitely a case where I'm more interested in a particular playstyle (her unique ability to achieve incredible armor/barrier damage with a single cast and no further attention required) than simply shooting everything as quickly as possible, so it really doesn't matter. 

[BloodBeforeTears]

I always put a widow on her (w/ phasic).  Nothing like an asari playing with a big long gun.