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[Ashintin]

Did anyone else notice that the number of cheaters seem to be getting very high now, especially on Perilous+

Sometimes I find myself playing Threatening only because I can't fint a game on Perilous without a cheater in it.

 

Most commonly I see the rouge types, usually assassins, duelists, alchemists, gaining guard all the time, or even blatantly using skills that should exist only on the Legionaire, such as Walking Fortress. 

Also somtimes I see people who already bleed out come back, although I guess this could be one of many bugs.

 

For sure there are several names on the top 100 that cheat.

 

It's kind of annoying, it's not really fun to play a coop game where one of two of your teammates clearly cheat.

 

 

[Geth Supremacy]

PC master race. 

[daima17]

But there is a dagger that gives you guard on hit... Savage thorn.

 

But you can revive if you kill a minion when you are dead if you have some heal on kill...

 

Seriously...

[Aetika]

Isn´t there a weapon that grants you guard on hit? and staff that gives walking fortress... Also the back from fade is more related to lag and hok, it happened to me few times too.

 

oh, ninja´d 

[sabreracer]

Ummm you do know that there are new weapons that have a chance to give those abilities?

 

For example Savage Thorn has Guard on hit.

 

Many of the new weapons have HoK which often has a bit delay plus can be triggered by mines for example.

 

me too 

[Havoc49J]

None of the things you listed are cheats or even bugs. They can all be accomplished through legitimate means.

[Ashintin]

But there is a dagger that gives you guard on hit... Savage thorn.

 

But you can revive if you kill a minion when you are dead if you have some heal on kill...

 

Seriously...

 

Ok fine, about the Dagger, have not seen that one. That explains some of it.

 

Heal on kill wont resurrect you once you are in the fade. Could it be lag? Well maybe but I doubt it.

 

I have seen, for instance, a Duelist bleed out, then come back to being down, then be helped up and immediately seemingly cast, not proc, Walking fortress.

 

But ok, if there are such weapon procs that explains some. Then it's just imo poor design. Maybe we should have all classes being able to use all weapons and wear all armor then. Just like in a certain not so awesome mmo.

[heartsofruin]

Yeah maybe should research a little before declaring a massive cheat wave.

 

Amazing.

[Kalas Magnus]

heal on kill will resurrect you from the fade.

 

the duelist used unyielding. i think thats the name.

 

and there is a glitch where classes are getting abilities they shouldnt have.

someone said they saw a mighty arcane warrior with the awesome ability energy barrage.

[Kalas Magnus]

Yeah maybe should research a little before declaring a massive cheat wave.

 

Amazing.

i thot this thread was going to be about the double exp.

[Thadrial]

i thot this thread was going to be about the double exp.

Just like the rest of the front page of this forum atm  

[J. Peterman]

Heal on kill wont resurrect you once you are in the fade. Could it be lag? Well maybe but I doubt it.

 

Revived from the fade...

 

 

I've also just re-materialised from the fade on a couple of occasions.

[Aetika]

The heal on kill will raise you from fade. It happens rarely, but it happens. Mostly under significant lag. All sort of weird things happens under lag.
(Like last time, when I played with the giant "reviving" circle plastered on my screen until I died again and the game caught up with reality)
 

Revived from the fade...
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I've also just re-materialised from the fade on a couple of occasions.

The headless AW is just cherry on top 

[Thadrial]

The heal on kill will raise you from fade. It happens rarely, but it happens. Mostly under significant lag. All sort of weird things happens under lag.
(Like last time, when I played with the giant "reviving" circle plastered on my screen until I died again and the game caught up with reality)
 

The headless AW is just cherry on top 

That's fade cloak though 

[LearnedHand]

Most common hacks I have seen are where you take no damage and one shot everything. It would be a poor cheater who dies and bleeds out.

[Aetika]

That's fade cloak though 

I had to give up on that armor. The stuff is scary. And I had troubles to see if my fade cloak was in effect or not.

His as...legs look better in golden leggings anyway.

[Silversmurf]

Did anyone else notice that the number of cheaters seem to be getting very high now, especially on Perilous+
Sometimes I find myself playing Threatening only because I can't fint a game on Perilous without a cheater in it.

Most commonly I see the rouge types, usually assassins, duelists, alchemists, gaining guard all the time, or even blatantly using skills that should exist only on the Legionaire, such as Walking Fortress.
Also somtimes I see people who already bleed out come back, although I guess this could be one of many bugs.

For sure there are several names on the top 100 that cheat.

It's kind of annoying, it's not really fun to play a coop game where one of two of your teammates clearly cheat.

Lol

Not sure if troll

I have full guard quite a lot on Duelist

Love guard generating dagger.

[thevaleyard]

I get revived back from the Fade all the time as a Necro, thanks to Spirit Mark.

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What I'd give for that guard on hit dagger.

 

Sorry Ashintin, it's not that they're cheating, it's just that they have better gear than you... 

 

You jelly?

[JiaJM98]

Yes that's perfectly normal due to new weapons. Now almost all classes have some kind of weapon that does "guard on hit" and some of the Hakkon weapons have one hit, cast "XXX" effects" (for example, walking fortress). There is a lot of skills that allow you to revive after death due to heal on kill effects. E.g. poison clouds or spirit mark or firestorm etc. It might simply be due to the statues effects inflicted on the enemy, e.g. burning, killed a mob after he died and as a result, he managed to self revive. 

 

What you mentioned about "walking fortress" on rogues, that's actually one of those passives you can grab from their skill tree. For example, duelist have unyielding passive that grants them a few seconds of invulnerability, which looks exactly the same as walking fortress. These skills tend to have a long CD time (60 seconds for unyielding). Some warriors have this passive as well (like templar).

Mages also have something similar like guardian spirit.

 

From what you describe, I think that's probably normal. However, I can understand if one is not aware of those things above, he is right to assume they are cheating. In fact I struggled to accept these ideas until I "self revived" a couple of times myself. Try it for yourselves, with poison clouds or fire storm, they are probably the easiest ways for doing that.

[kea_spicy]

Most common hacks I have seen are where you take no damage and one shot everything. It would be a poor cheater who dies and bleeds out.

No, no. They're just super paranoid about being caught & called out on it. 

[Yumi]

there is a new dagger with 2% avoid killing blow. You fall into the fade and pop right back up.

[Medallian]

Ok fine, about the Dagger, have not seen that one. That explains some of it.

 

Heal on kill wont resurrect you once you are in the fade. Could it be lag? Well maybe but I doubt it.

 

I have seen, for instance, a Duelist bleed out, then come back to being down, then be helped up and immediately seemingly cast, not proc, Walking fortress.

 

But ok, if there are such weapon procs that explains some. Then it's just imo poor design. Maybe we should have all classes being able to use all weapons and wear all armor then. Just like in a certain not so awesome mmo.

HOK and HOH can both rez from the fade you got  it wrong if your on a alchemist and you lay down bombs and you get a kill while in the fade you will be pulled out, I have done this many many times in the past its not a cheat 

[Delta 57 Dash]

So uh... as already mentioned, reviving from the Fade, gaining guard or using unyielding on a rogue are all a part of the game, given the right equipment/stats/passives.

Heck, just a few days ago I managed to revive myself as an Alchemist a good 5 seconds after entering the fade due to toxic cloud.

[Gilli]

Also the Keepers Cycle of Life passive will bring others back without anyone having to rezz them.

 

Situation: I, with my Keeper, went down and then to the Fade, at the same time a friend was about to bleed out and then got back to full health, without anyone being near her to rezz her, also everyone else got back to full health too.