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[NeonFlux117]

lol, she did. She hurt my wittle feewings.

[Ashevajak]

If I can shoot her again, sure

[NeonFlux117]

If I can shoot her again, sure

You know... I could get behind this idea.

[Seboist]

I let Garrus bust a cap in that tranny during the citadel coup mission.

So..... Naw.

 

The folks behind the "transgender LI" thread a while back clearly didn't know we already got one in ME3.

[Metalfros]

Can someone close this topic please? Thanks!

 

Oh... btw... NO.

Don't

[NeonFlux117]

The folks behind the "transgender LI" thread a while back clearly didn't know we already got one in ME3.

Yes, it's quite the "easter egg".

[dreamgazer]

The folks behind the "transgender LI" thread a while back clearly didn't know we already got one in ME3.

Hey, it's the future. For all we know, both Virmire options were.

[Ashevajak]

The only other reason to bring Ashley back in ME:A is to give her a whole new galaxy of aliens to be slightly racist against.

[NeonFlux117]

The only other reason to bring Ashley back in ME:A is to give her a whole new galaxy of aliens to be slightly racist against.

Come on now, slightly...... Slightly.

If Ash were an American, she would live in Texas and have confederate flags on her front lawn and have bumper stickers saying, "thanks Obama".

[goishen]

I thought she was unfairly castigated for racism, when the whole story was dedicated to proving her suspicions correct. She feels like other races aren't real big on humans, and she's a monster. Salarians develop a plague to cause millions and millions of stillbirths in a race that they used as a shield and club because the Council races couldn't carry their own fight, and it's just business.

That said, she was intensely irritating on personal interaction alone (my trigger finger kept twitching during that egregious "no means no" speech in the first game). I would like Bioware to avoid writing this kind of character again.

 

 

I'd like if they'd avoid another Isabella.   The woman actually stood there and told me that it wasn't that bad, what happened in Kirkwall. 

 

That's like saying, "Aww c'mon.   What happened to the Milky Way wasn't that bad."

 

   Err, what?

[Han Shot First]

Come on now, slightly...... Slightly.

If Ash were an American, she would live in Texas and have confederate flags on her front lawn and have bumper stickers saying, "thanks Obama".

 

Hell no.

 

True Americans fought under the Stars & Stripes, not that traitorous banner of defeat.

[KaiserShep]

Come on now, slightly...... Slightly.

If Ash were an American, she would live in Texas and have confederate flags on her front lawn and have bumper stickers saying, "thanks Obama".

 

Come on. The only Confederate flag that truly matters is a white one. Ash would know this.

[Br3admax]

Come on now, slightly...... Slightly.

If Ash were an American, she would live in Texas and have confederate flags on her front lawn and have bumper stickers saying, "thanks Obama".

Are the five Ashmancers really worth baiting like this after ME3? Haven't we suffered enough? 

[KaiserShep]

Are the five Ashmancers really worth baiting like this after ME3? Haven't we suffered enough? 

 

 

Well, in fairness, it'd more likely get a bite than from the Jacobmancers, whose promise of a Prize despite the Heavy Risk just never came to be. 

[Ashevajak]

Bioware dashed their dreams and brought them crashing back to Earth.  As Jacob might say, "gravity is one mean mother, huh?"

[Hadeedak]

Well, in fairness, it'd more likely get a bite than from the Jacobmancers, whose promise of a Prize despite the Heavy Risk just never came to be. 

 

Hahah... Aww.

 

Good old Jacob, the prettiest man in Mass Effect, the only one who asks about your feelings... Ouch.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I like Ashley well enough; I romance her until Virmire when she gets sacrificed to save Kaidan and Kirrahe's team. Sets the stage for my Shepard being bitter in ME2 and romancing his other female, non-blue ME1 squadmate.

 

 

The whole "BAH she is a racist!!!1one!" is ridiculous. She's suspicious of aliens whose governments committed atrocities that humanity's worst monsters couldn't touch (did Cerberus sterilize an entire race or fight wars by throwing meteors at harmless civilian targets?). On most matters, I'd say she's justified.

[KaiserShep]

As Jacob might say, "gravity is one mean mother, huh?"

 

That's much meaner than if Jacob were to simply say "You're done!" 

[Br3admax]

Well, in fairness, it'd more likely get a bite than from the Jacobmancers, whose promise of a Prize despite the Heavy Risk just never came to be. 

Eh, most of the Jacobmancers left the forum when BioWare had a good laugh at their expense. Ashleymancers are at least still here, and Jacob wasn't in ME3 long enough to get the same treatment she did.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

The fact that you dislike her so much is usually the sign of a, to some degree, well-written character the worst characters are generally regarded as the ones you just feel indifferent about, so you might want to think twice about discouraging Bioware to write 'this kind of character again' it would probably be far worse to have a cast of boring squadmembers because the writers wanted to play it safe and write characters that wouldn't step on anyone's toes.

I dislike her because her writing is so sophomoric. I don't mind the basic framework of her character, although I would rather have seen it explored in greater depth. The only reason I'm not completely indifferent about her is that I'm not given any opportunity to expose her inconsistencies in dialogue options. Other than that, she's written way too blandly.

[RZIBARA]

Ashley is better than the entire ME1-2 cast of squadmates so i dont know why you're talking ****. Only squadmates that I like as much are Wrex and Javik.

 

But anyways, no dont bring her back. 

[Quarian Master Race]

Come on now, slightly...... Slightly.

If Ash were an American, she would live in Texas and have confederate flags on her front lawn and have bumper stickers saying, "thanks Obama".

Ashley isn't really all that racist by the standards of these games. Expressing skepticism at allowing agents of foreign governments (one of which had previously expressed a desire to conquer your species and backed it up with orbital strikes on a colony) access to sensitive military secrets is a completely reasonable opinion to have. Expressing that other cultures will normally look out for their own interests before considering the needs of others is likewise a logical conclusion, especially given that it is one vindicated by the actions of the Council species throughout the whole of the series (in fact, the tripartite, exclusionary Council government is based entirely upon institutionalized racism against everyone that isn't a turian, asari or salarian in the first place). If you let her survive the first game, she actually develops quite an affectionate self admitted "sister" relationship with one of the aliens (Tali, despite the fact that casual racism against her species seems to be a rule in Council space that even otherwise reasonable people follow) and is generally friendly with the others, which isn't very racist at all.

The only example of racism that people seem to be able to cite without gross misinterpretation is the "can't tell the aliens from the animals" comment on the presidium, which is actually a confirmed bug (that line was supposed to be context sensitive when examining one of the keepers). Now that's still pretty ignorant toward the keepers, but I'd argue Ashley isn't even the most "racist" member of the ME1 team. Garrus makes racist comments towards both Tali and Wrex in elevator conversations. Wrex seems to consider the rachni to be subsapient monsters even while the queen is pleading to you for her life (and he never develops out of this throughout the series) and is universally violent towards salarians. If you consider synthetics to be sapient, sentinet lifeforms (which the writers certainly intended you to), then Tali is probably the most "racist" character on the squad in all games (also can maintain this attitude if you never reactivate Legion). Even Kaidan makes a borderline racist, "I thought all krogan were the same" comment in an elevator conversation which Wrex has to chastize him for. Nevermind the ubiquitous and openly racist minor NPCs like Pressly, who literally refers to Tali as a zoo animal, or any of the salarians on virmire and their comments about Wrex, and that's just in the first game.

If the writers had intended for Ashley to be racist, they probably wouldn't have made her respond like this to a political party whose platform is essentially xenophobia.




 

[GaroTD]

I like Ashley. But only because I remember how she used to be in first Mass Effect. Then she was really interesting, complex character and for me best romance in ME1. Then in third mass effect she became annoying. But no, she won't be in Andromeda for sure .

[Larry-3]

Only if she is a romance option, other then that, no.

[themikefest]

Ashley is better than the entire ME1-2 cast of squadmates so i dont know why you're talking ****. Only squadmates that I like as much are Wrex and Javik.

Ashley is one of my favorites. She's a mini-me tank. I have her on my squad the whole time in ME1 and after the coup in ME3