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[Grieving Natashina]

Kai Leng's clone is probably in stasis the entire time, right next to the pod where Shepard's was. 

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Just thinking about him makes my teeth clench.  

[DaemionMoadrin]

I can't think of anyone that can't be killed through Shepard (through his/her action or inaction,) the Reapers or a combination of the above.  I wasn't asking so much for preferences, I was asking who you thought might be alive at this point.  Would you be willing to name some names?  I'm wracking my brain, hard here, and I can't think of a single NPC that might be alive.  Pretty much all of them were on Reaped worlds or on the Citadel, so I don't see what characters that are named NPCs that are alive.  Some descendants, sure, but otherwise I'm drawing a blank. 

 

Problem: Aria was stuck on the Citadel, unless the player did Omega.  Too many of those NPCs died on the Citadel to make even Aria a safe bet.  Even then, wasn't Omega screwed by the end of the game?  I don't own Omega, so I'm not sure.

 

Well, Omega doesn't matter because Aria returns to the Citadel to coordinate the mercs for the war effort. Omega itself was doing okay even in the worst case scenario, if you can ignore that Afterlife got trashed and one or two critical systems need repairs urgently. Oh, and the Renegade path results in lots of dead civilians.

 

Ok, Aria bites it. Too bad though, she's my favourite Asari.

[KaiserShep]

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Just thinking about him makes my teeth clench.  

 

I can see the ominous hints in the codex entries now, regarding Big Grain Concern and the sudden disappearance of several metric tons of the cereal product that they manufacture for the colony ships. 

[Han Shot First]

According to Patrick Weekes all the named NPCs aboard the Citadel survived. Or at least they did in the High EMS endings.

 

Of course whether or not tweets or forum posts by devs should be taken as canon could be topic of its own.

[Grieving Natashina]

According to Patrick Weekes all the named NPCs aboard the Citadel survived. Or at least they did in the High EMS endings.

 

Of course whether or not tweets or forum posts by devs should be taken as canon could be topic of its own.

That and whether or not it's going to make a difference.  The ME team seems like they are crafting this very carefully to where Shepard isn't connected.  If, say, Aria shows up, then the player is going to want to know about what happened.  Aria isn't exactly the subtle type and seems like the type of person to be blunt and direct about the fate of the Milky Way.  Maybe adding a f-bomb or two for affect.  In any case, I don't think any NPC from the ME trilogy is going to make an appearance, since that would leave a door open to question someone about the ending.  

[KaiserShep]

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes  3 years ago

Everyone in the dock was saved by the Shepard VI.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Patrick Weekes ‏@PatrickWeekes  3 years ago

Everyone in the dock was saved by the Shepard VI.

 

Oh, that is clearly meant to be taken seriously.

[Grieving Natashina]

This is the tweet I was referring to earlier:

 

https://twitter.com/...930229329829888

 

@Honor16 SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER (stop reading if u don't a SPOILER) : Some escaped before the arms were closed. But for many... Bad times.

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I can't think of anyone that can't be killed through Shepard (through his/her action or inaction,) the Reapers or a combination of the above.  I wasn't asking so much for preferences, I was asking who you thought might be alive at this point.  Would you be willing to name some names?  I'm wracking my brain, hard here, and I can't think of a single NPC that might be alive.  Pretty much all of them were on Reaped worlds or on the Citadel, so I don't see what characters that are named NPCs that are alive.  Some descendants, sure, but otherwise I'm drawing a blank. 

Maeko Matsuo, Khalisah Bint Sinan al-Jilani, Major Coats, Lilihierax, to name a few.

[KaiserShep]

If Shepard punches Khalisah, she eventually loses her job and she goes to Sanctuary. 

 

​Yeah it's headcanon so what wanna fight about it? 

[Evamitchelle]

There's also the unofficial interview: "Yes. We would never, ever do anything that made the player feel, on replay, that it would be better for everyone on the Citadel if they just died. The Citadel has emergency shelters and kinetic barriers - even if it blows up, millions might survive. You should assume that everyone plot-important on the Citadel survived. "

[KaiserShep]

It also helps that the post-Destroy slide clearly shows buildings with power on the Citadel. Keeper 20 really knows his sh**.

[Han Shot First]

Oh, that is clearly meant to be taken seriously.

 

If thats all that was said, I agree. Clearly he was joking.

 

I don't follow anyone or anything on Twitter, but I remember it being posted here in the past that he confirmed that people survived. If that tweet is what people were referring to.....

 

 

EDIT: N/M..might have been that interview Evamitchelle posted.

[KaiserShep]

I made that tweet up. Hopefully he doesn't put a curse on me or something.

[Grieving Natashina]

@Hana There is several problems with the examples you listed:

 

Khalisah was barking up the Council's tree on the Citadel, last I knew.  Major Coats was on Earth, and he would have knowledge of the end of the war.  Which would mean explaining the endings, so he's out.  Noveria got Reaped indirectly thanks to Cerberus, so those ME1 NPCs are likely dead by ME3, much less by the beginning of ME:A.

 

 In any case, they would all most likely would be dead by ME:A, due to a human-like lifespan and the fact that ME:A is set "far removed from the events of Shepard."  If they were to bring any NPC from ME into the new game, then they would have knowledge of the end of the War.  Remember, no matter where in the galaxy someone was, the Catalyst's beam affected them.  Period, end of story.  The entire MW got affected.

 

You should stop setting yourself up for disappointment here.  This is a new trilogy and a new galaxy.  My advice is to either accept the fact that we're not going to see a lot of connection to the original trilogy, or give up while you're ahead.

[KaiserShep]

They should add a reporter named Amelia Wong who gets a number of quests that ends in determining whether or not she dies in a shuttle crash. 

[Han Shot First]

I could see perhaps a couple minor characters perhaps making it to Andromeda. We didn't see Shiala or Gianna Parasini in ME3. I'd be on board with them being on board the ark.

 

Not expecting it though...

[dragonflight288]

considering the game is centuries after Shepard, chances are she won't be making a return. 

 

Only Liara and Wrex stand a chance of having a cameo or appearing because of Asari and Krogan life-spans. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Khalisah was barking up the Council's tree on the Citadel, last I knew.

And every named character on the Citadel lives. 

 

Major Coats was on Earth, and he would have knowledge of the end of the war.  Which would mean explaining the endings, so he's out.

So? I'm hoping there is at least some references to the end of the Reaper War. 

 

Noveria got Reaped, so those ME1 NPCs are likely dead by ME3, much less by the beginning of ME:A.

Noveria wasn't reaped. We pass Noveria on our way to Earth with the entire Alliance fleet. It's the only Mass Relay not blocked by the Reapers. Plus here is the planet description in ME3: 

Noveria is a small, frozen terrestrial world, barely habitable by conventional definitions. It is privately chartered by the Noveria Development Corporation, who lease out labs to perform research too dangerous or controversial to be performed elsewhere.

 

The war has brought significant attention to this otherwise obscure planet. Noveria is home to some of the most advanced research in the galaxy, a sure magnet for Cerberus interest. Further, Noveria's mass relay is the stop between the humans' Exodus Cluster and the beginning of salarian space. It is a safe bet that the salarians will defend their borders to the utmost.

 

 In any case, they would all most likely would be dead by ME:A, due to a human-like lifespan and the fact that ME:A is set "far removed from the events of Shepard."  If they were to bring any NPC from ME into the new game, then they would have knowledge of the end of the War.  Remember, no matter where in the galaxy someone was, the Catalyst's beam affected them.  Period, end of story.  The entire MW got affected.

Again, I'm hoping they do have some references to it since I'm hoping the initiative leaves after the Reaper War. 

 

You should stop setting yourself up for disappointment here.  This is a new trilogy and a new galaxy.  My advice is to either accept the fact that we're not going to see a lot of connection to the original trilogy, or give up while you're ahead.

Thanks for the pep talk. 

[Grieving Natashina]

Even then, both of them could be dead.  Liara might survive, with high EMS, but Wrex could die back in ME1.  If you sabotage the genophage with him alive, Shepard could have killed him in ME3 too.  So poor Wrex could have died twice over.  

[KaiserShep]

considering the game is centuries after Shepard, chances are she won't be making a return. 

 

Only Liara and Wrex stand a chance of having a cameo or appearing because of Asari and Krogan life-spans. 

 

I say Fortack should make it to Andromeda. If there's one thing the Khet will be begging for, it's a welcome wagon of some real ground-pounders. 

[Lady Artifice]

I want Lorik Qui'in. 

[Han Shot First]

I want Lorik Qui'in. 

 

Yes!

 

If he makes it aboard the ship heading to Andromeda, I hope it is through something appropriately shady. He should get aboard by bribing some official or another.

[KaiserShep]

We didn't see Shiala or Gianna Parasini in ME3.

 

Very very few NPC's are beyond the wrath of Shepard, whether it be direct or indirect. Shiala can obviously be killed, but so can Gianna, but it's the crooked salarian that does it if you play your cards right.

 

 

[Grieving Natashina]

@Hana May I see the WoG that says that all the named NPCs make it?  I haven't seen any yet and I've been looking.  In fact, the only hits that come from this aren't related to the named NPCs on the Citadel, with the 4th hit being this thread.  I'll keep looking, but so far I've found squat that backs up this assertion.

 

Found it:

 

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Did anyone on the Citadel survive?

 

Yes. We would never, ever do anything that made the player feel, on replay, that it would be better for everyone on the Citadel if they just died. The Citadel has emergency shelters and kinetic barriers - even if it blows up, millions might survive. You should assume that everyone plot-important on the Citadel survived. 

 

 

http://forum.bioware...poilers-beware/

 

Regarding Noveria, I edited my post.  Honestly, you don't think Cerberus experimented on them, took them back somewhere to husk/mutate them all?  That was their MO, after all.  Experimenting on people they capture and/or lure into a trap in order to figure out how to control the Reapers.  

 

No need to be sarcastic either.  I'm not trying to be mean or rude to you.  I'm trying to present the facts here.  Those being:

 

1) They want to set it as far away from Shep as possible, both in time and in space.  So no survivors from the Citadel would appear, since they would know the end of the war. 

 

2) Related to that, any NPCs that were active during the Reaper War would have knowledge of the ending of the war.  The devs are avoiding that.

 

3) They are dead due to Cerberus, Reapers, or good old fashioned short lifespans.  Unless you want to get into cryo stasis, every single NPC could be dead by the time ME:A rolls around.

 

You say that "fate is going to conspire" against you if they don't have a single NPC from the ME trilogy.   I'm trying to warn you to not allow yourself to get too upset if you don't see anyone.

 

Edit: There is some NPCs I would love to see in ME:A, but I am not getting my hopes up.  If the new ME game was set in the Milky Way and closer to the events of ME3, then I could see it.