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BIOWARE please focus on STAND ALONE MULTIPLAYER PLEASE!


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#101
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No, ME 3 MP's team was assembled at the same time as the SP developers to do parallel work on the game.

 

There is a debunked rumour that DA:I started out as an MP-only game, but it was people overreacting to an interview. A developer explained that assets from a Dragon Age MP game that had been abandoned before DA 2 were incorporated into DA:I. Raging nerds took that to mean that DA:I had been planned as a multiplayer game all along, and the SP had been tacked on at the last second (mostly as an excuse to rage, since it made no sense to interpret it that way.)

 

Which is ironic, because DA:O was actually an MP game ala NWN1 originally (and likely it was those assets they were talking about). 



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Yeah, the game I was referring to was called Mass Effect Team Assault:

 

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This is quite interesting



#103
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Just drop SP altogether and stop wasting valuable resources™.

 

Seriously, that was the most boringestest(est) trailer I have ever seen.

The soup nazi: no Mass Effect Andromeda for you! XD



#104
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No.

 

Simply No.

 

There are so many Multiplayer games out there, choose one of those.

 

Maybe they could get some other Team to release a Standalone MassEffect Multiplayer Game, based on the ME3 Multiplayer, but please please please don't let anything Multiplayer related divert any Resources away from the storydriven Singleplayer Modus that brought everyone to this Series in the first Place.

Yes. Agreed. Vehemently. That is a deal breaker proposition. Still not amused by the 11th hour buddy system requirements in ME3 any more than I appreciated the Lite Brite color wheel of ending choices which pretty much all resulted in my death (the ending with the hand sticking up could easily have just been residual nerve activity that results after complete and gruesom decapitation)



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I'm in favor of this idea of standalone ME MP game filled with microtransactions and that sort of stuff so that they can rid for good that component (MP) in the normal titles and focus solely on the SP aspect in Action/RPG related games.. They can totally milk appease MP fans so that they get more income to dedicate to the SP aspects of their games. Good idea OP. I approve ;) good cash grab idea, cows are meant to be milked.

 

Asking for MP to BW always felt to me like asking for a meat-free menu in a steak-house.



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That's actually a great Idea. Have a separate team work on a stand alone Mass effect MP game, but first focus on a superior SP only experience for Andromeda. The ME3 multiplayer still stands strong as it is (I haven't played it until recently mainly because of prejudice, now I'm hooked to my awakened collector), so let them focus on the story since that's an element they SERIOUSLY need to make it right this time, and then make a stand alone MP game after ME:A is released.  That would be perfect.



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That's actually a great Idea. Have a separate team work on a stand alone Mass effect MP game, but first focus on a superior SP only experience for Andromeda. The ME3 multiplayer still stands strong as it is (I haven't played it until recently mainly because of prejudice, now I'm hooked to my awakened collector), so let them focus on the story since that's an element they SERIOUSLY need to make it right this time, and then make a stand alone MP game after ME:A is released.  That would be perfect.

It has always been separate teams working on the MP and SP, with different budgets. Hasn't stopped the SP team to screw the game up at the end. We were lucky there was the MP to salvage it.



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It has always been separate teams working on the MP and SP, with different budgets. Hasn't stopped the SP team to screw the game up at the end. We were lucky there was the MP to salvage it.

 

Exactly glad you guys paid for the next SP game to be out! ;)



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I doubt we did, allow me to remind you the paying dlcs were on the SP part of the game, not the MP one. Actually, you could say the MP was piggy-backing on the SP, since all the lore, initial game mechanics and aesthetic development was paid by the SP budget. Both had an initial number of dlc planned, paying for SP and free for MP because they didn't want to divide the MP community. The content for the MP was extended thanks to its microtransactions success. The budget for each game (I'm going to consider them as two separate games, for ease of explication) are not transferable to one another, even though they are added on one another in the final count. Specific expanses and possible profits for each are kept on separate columns, because you need to be able to justify to your investors how the money planned for one of the games was spent. It is similar for profits. By default here, both games start with the same amount of profits, since they come together, the difference comes with micro-transactions. DLCs for the SP, in-game credits for the MP. Such benefice are also kept on different columns because investors wants to know what sold better (and eventually why).

 

If the future MEAMP and MEASP were developped and sold completely separately, the money from the MP wouldn't pay for anything in SP, just as ME3MP didn't pay anything for ME3SP. The SP team probably had to cut in their profit for the Extended Cut, actually. That wouldn't be a bad thing for the MP. It wouldn't change a thing to what was done for ME3. MEAMP would go on merrily piggy-backing MEASP.



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People here seem to forget that it was the awful endings in singleplayer that pushed players to Mass Effect Multiplayer to begin with.

Fixed.

 

Now that they know they can skip the BS and give us MP from the gate. 

 

Win/Win :D



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@Fade9whatever

Hehehe glad you believe that.



#112
Fade9wayz

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@Fade9whatever

Hehehe glad you believe that.

There's nothing to believe. It's common budget practice, but hey, it's no skin off my back if you think MP will pay for SP. It just goes on to demonstrate MP was vastly superior to SP and should be focused on.



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There's nothing to believe. It's common budget practice, but hey, it's no skin off my back if you think MP will pay for SP. It just goes on to demonstrate MP was vastly superior to SP and should be focused on.

 

Good keep the flow of cash going ;) there are other things to attend to. Put down a map or two, a couple of skins, weapons an RNG store so you keep playing/paying. The effort is mininal, the flow of cash guaranteed. Resources are needed for voice actors and DLCs.



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I wish play on network with my girlfriend without internet connection.



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Good keep the flow of cash going ;) there are other things to attend to. Put down a map or two, a couple of skins, weapons an RNG store so you keep playing/paying. The effort is mininal, the flow of cash guaranteed. Resources are needed for voice actors and DLCs.

You'll have to get on your knees and ask someone else. I didn't have to pay since I could as well also earn credits in-game just by putting in some fun time, instead of raging about the endings, and my manifest was completed a long while ago. Go little beggar, go.



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You'll have to get on your knees and ask someone else. I didn't have to pay since I could as well also earn credits in-game just by putting in some fun time, instead of raging about the endings, and my manifest was completed a long while ago. Go little beggar, go.

 

Well if you are happy of having wasted hours trying to complete a pointless MP manifest good for you. I don't bother with that. I just finish the SP and I'm done till the next SP DLC. However if all MP proponents are cheap-ass guys like you then MP would have failed long ago. Thankfully most of them aren't so I don't need to be a beggar.

 

Kind of wondering how many would pay for MP maps packs here....



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This thread should be locked already. I created this thread like weeks ago and has been Necro-resurrected. It is clear that Bioware will implement MP with SP if they do decide in the future to separate SP with MP then that is for them to ponder on. 



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Well if you are happy of having wasted hours trying to complete a pointless MP manifest good for you. I don't bother with that. I just finish the SP and I'm done till the next SP DLC. However if all MP proponents are cheap-ass guys like you then MP would have failed long ago. Thankfully most of them aren't so I don't need to be a beggar.

At least I don't spend my time fruitlessly trolling and insulting other people. If you're happy with a SP that ended in such failure, and even paying its dlcs, it just goes on to show you have no taste, as well as no manner. There is no point in trying to make MEASP a good game for people like you, They should just scrap its budget. It seems to me the one blindly throwing their money to BW is you, not me. You're the real cow being milked. Don't take it out on others if that doesn't satisfy you.

 

@ The Arbiter

 

Sorry about this



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At least I don't spend my time fruitlessly trolling and insulting other people. If you're happy with a SP that ended in such failure, and even paying its dlcs, it just goes on to show you have no taste, as well as no manner. There is no point in trying to make MEASP a good game for people like you, They should just scrap its budget. It seems to me the one blindly throwing their money to BW is you, not me. You're the real cow being milked.

 

Oh man you don't need to be mad at me. ;) I find though funny you are advocating more MP and clearly stated you didn't spend a penny on it. For BW money talks. You don't spend your money on MP? Then your words are empty. Simple logic here.



#120
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Oh man you don't need to be mad at me. ;) I find though funny you are advocating more MP and clearly stated you didn't spend a penny on it. For BW money talks. You don't spend your money on MP? Then your words are empty. Simple logic here.

Clearly you're incapable of any shred of logic. One doesn't need to spend money on MP to know how a budget works. 



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Clearly you're incapable of any shred of logic. One doesn't need to spend money on MP to know how a budget works. 

 

Clearly you're incapable  to understand how business works. None will invest money in a feature that can't turn into a profit. If all users won't spend real money on MP packs then MP wouldn't be there to begin with. MP and micro-transactions are a relatively reliable stream of cash with a moderate effort requested to be implemented. That's why they are there and that's why EA wants them to be there.



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Clearly you're incapable  to understand how business works. None will invest money in a feature that can't turn into a profit. If all users won't spend real money on MP packs then MP wouldn't be there to begin with.

And you don't know how to read either. I never said there weren't MP gamers who spent money on packs. I said the profit it generated wasn't transferred to SP. It allowed for more MP content that wasn't planned in the beggining. If you want more SP content, buy more dlcs. I'm done, feeding trolls isn't my favorite past-time and I have sport to go to, with more pleasant people.



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And you don't know how to read either. I never said there weren't MP gamers who spent money on packs. I said the profit it generated wasn't transferred to SP. It allowed for more MP content that wasn't planned in the beggining. If you want more SP content, buy more dlcs.

 

Fine believe what you want. However do buy MP packs for MEA if you think ME MP is the feature they should focus on. It would only give credibility to your words. I certainly buy all SP DLCs.

 

Again the lingering question here: How many would pay for MP DLCs here?



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Call of Duty: N7's of War.



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I doubt if they would make a stand alone, a good number of people that played and made ME3 mp a big success where either new mp players or adamant anti mp players that tried it and changed their mind.

 

I suspect it will be along the lines of ME3 and DAI.  I totally agree that any mp component should have no effect on the sp competent though as was the mistake in ME3 mp.