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[Elhanan]

Liked the kid; not the Star Child based on him. And I enjoyed the story, but became so tired of the lengthy cut-scenes.

Really hope Bioware is more like DAI than ME3 moving forward.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Liked the kid; not the Star Child based on him. And I enjoyed the story, but became so tired of the lengthy cut-scenes.

Really hope Bioware is more like DAI than ME3 moving forward.

Given that DAI is the best game they've made in the past 10 years, I would concur.

[themikefest]

I agree about not playing your Shepard in the game. Remember ME3 is the third game in a trilogy and its the best time to start playing a trilogy

[Sylvius the Mad]

I had no less control of Shepard in this game as I did in the first one.

Shepard was never my character, and as a result I disliked the series throughout.

[Monica21]

Really hope Bioware is more like DAI than ME3 moving forward.

 

Given that DAI is the best game they've made in the past 10 years, I would concur.

 

Since Inquisition is a lot of wandering around in empty wastelands, with some admittedly very good story elements, I mostly disagree with this sentiment.

[Elhanan]

Since Inquisition is a lot of wandering around in empty wastelands, with some admittedly very good story elements, I mostly disagree with this sentiment.

My own description would be exploring in varied environments, peppered in things to discover.

Opinions differ, even among the same review sites with different authors. I prefer the variety of DAI over the cut-scenes films of ME.

[AlanC9]

But then, througout the game, there are these weird dream sequences (that made no sense to me, and led to me wandering around aimlessly for minutes at a time) suggesting that Shepard felt... what? Guilt? Shepard hadn't done anything vis-a-vis that kid. What cause for guilt could there possibly be?

Yeah, pretty much. Note that Shepard hears the voices of other squadmates who have died over the course of the trilogy in the dreams too. Of course, Shepard really can be responsible for some of those deaths .

[dreamgazer]

It's better than ME2. And it's better than DA2.

 

Mhm.

[KaiserShep]

Yeah, pretty much. Note that Shepard hears the voices of other squadmates who have died over the course of the trilogy in the dreams too. Of course, Shepard really can be responsible for some of those deaths .

 

I like to pretend that the "Intelligence" was messing with Shepard a lot of the time, sort of like the invisible aliens that were experimenting on the Voyager crew. I mean, it must have in some way, since it was using the ghostly image of the only child in the entire universe. 

[SwobyJ]

I like to pretend that the "Intelligence" was messing with Shepard a lot of the time, sort of like the invisible aliens that were experimenting on the Voyager crew. I mean, it must have in some way, since it was using the ghostly image of the only child in the entire universe. 

 

You/I call it 'messing with'. The Intelligence just calls it doing its function given to him by organic crappy programming. Hehe.

[SwobyJ]

I prefer ME3 to DAI, but DAI to DA2.

 

1. ME3

2. DAI

3. ME2

4. DA2

 

Switch ME2 and ME3 depending on whether I find out if a lot of ideas I have about ME3 are correct enough. If they're not at all correct, then meh, put it into 3rd place instead of 1st, and put ME2 there instead.

 

I think DAI is quite good, but only quite good. It is absolutely filled with a feeling of 'this could be the best Bioware game ever, but stopped quite short'. I tend to think this is because they decided on cross-gen instead of pushing right into current-gen.

 

I think ME3 was very good. It just had many missteps. I do not mind the things that it seems people in this thread mind a lot.\

 

I don't dislike ME2. I just feel it starting to get dated and shallow for my experience. And about time, several playthroughs in! Still think its one of the best BW games, no matter what dreamgazer says

 

I don't hate DA2. I just like it the least of any Bioware game. Lots of good stuff to take from and learn from though. Its NOT crap.

 

I only wanted to talk about the most recent games, so I didn't care to include DAO/ME1, KOTOR/JE, NWN/BG/BG2.

 

That's enough sentences starting with 'I'.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Yeah, pretty much. Note that Shepard hears the voices of other squadmates who have died over the course of the trilogy in the dreams too. Of course, Shepard really can be responsible for some of those deaths .

Some, perhaps.  But yet again, this is BioWare deciding how Shepard feels about things, and that's not okay.

[SwobyJ]

Some, perhaps.  But yet again, this is BioWare deciding how Shepard feels about things, and that's not okay.

 

That's the thing I don't mind, but only if its actually part of a larger plan for the story of the franchise, not if its a more whim of Bioware really not caring about player agency.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I prefer ME3 to DAI, but DAI to DA2.

 

1. ME3

2. DAI

3. ME2

4. DA2

 

Switch ME2 and ME3 depending on whether I find out if a lot of ideas I have about ME3 are correct enough. If they're not at all correct, then meh, put it into 3rd place instead of 1st.

 

I think DAI is quite good, but only quite good. It is absolutely filled with a feeling of 'this could be the best Bioware game ever, but stopped quite short'. I tend to think this is because they decided on cross-gen instead of pushing right into current-gen.

 

I think ME3 was very good. It just had many missteps. I do not mind the things that it seems people in this thread mind a lot.\

 

I don't dislike ME2. I just feel it starting to get dated and shallow for my experience. And about time, several playthroughs in! Still think its one of the best BW games, no matter what dreamgazer says

 

I don't hate DA2. I just like it the least of any Bioware game. Lots of good stuff to take from and learn from though. Its NOT crap.

If I were to rank just those 4, it would be very misleading.  Note:

 

1. DAI

2. ME3

3. DA2

4. ME2

 

That's misleading, because I would rank nearly every other RPG BioWare has made between DAI and ME3.

 

1. BG

2. DAI

3. DAO

4. NWN

5. KotOR

6. BG2

7. JE

8. ME

9. ME3

10. DA2

11. ME2

 

I think ME2 and DA2 are genuinely awful.  And even that list is misleading, because I'd put a pretty big gap between BG2 and JE.

[SwobyJ]

I still need to play the BG games.

And NWN games.

 

I loved KOTOR as a kid and I'm all ready to play both of them (KOTOR2 with the big mod) sometime again.

 

I liked JE as a kid but I didn't completely finish it, so I definitely want to get to that again.

 

I like both DAO and ME1 in different ways. DAO's experience was more fun (when I finally got around to it), but ME1 brought me into something I still consider deal to myself (the ME franchise). I can barely stand playing ME1 now though, due to a mix of its shortcomings, tediousness (for completionism), and my overexposure to it.

 

We're definitely going to disagree on ME2 and DA2. I think our perspectives are just very opposite on what these games are and what we want from them. I (no longer) hold ME2 itself so well, and I never held DA2 well, but I still like both of them. I'm just not going to jump to play them again (and only ME2 due to any trilogy-ness I'd insist on myself).

[Elhanan]

As much as I enjoy The Citadel DLC, based on that list, I would avoid investing in any more ME related content.

[SwobyJ]

As much as I enjoy The Citadel DLC, based on that list, I would avoid investing in any more ME related content.

 

Even as obsessed as I am with ME (you do not even know) and as much of a fan as I still am, even I will be at least not preordering/collector-buying at this rate. Maybe not even getting at launch, but on a sale.

 

This is just based on current info though. If I see certain things in the next year, I'm willing to get back in.

[Elhanan]

The ME series is currently off my pre-order list, but the DA series remains. As one has quite a bit of time for advanced research, and may cancel at any given time, it is a small way to support my favorite games.

[Sylvius the Mad]

As much as I enjoy The Citadel DLC, based on that list, I would avoid investing in any more ME related content.

I wanted 3 years to play ME3, and even then it was mostly as a fact-finding mission to see what was so awful about the ending.

 

In that respect, it was a failure, because I didn't figure out what the reason for all the outrage was.

[Elhanan]

I wanted 3 years to play ME3, and even then it was mostly as a fact-finding mission to see what was so awful about the ending.
 
In that respect, it was a failure, because I didn't figure out what the reason for all the outrage was.

I discovered the same from yt vids well before I made the purchase. I enjoy the writing and gameplay as a rule; not the lengthy cinema experiences.

[Sylvius the Mad]

I discovered the same from yt vids well before I made the purchase. I enjoy the writing and gameplay as a rule; not the lengthy cinema experiences.

I thought perhaps the details of specific choices made earlier would be relevant, so I wanted to experience those choices.

I also wanted not to know what the endings were so I could have an hinest reaction to them, and that also worked. I had heard about RGB, but I didn't know the content.

I was even more surprised at the end by the availability of Control, because I had wanted Shepard to be in favour of Control all along, but the game wouldn't let me do that.

I didn't enjoy the "gameplay". It was really predictable, and I never had the option to do anything creative with it.

[Elhanan]

I thought perhaps the details of specific choices made earlier would be relevant, so I wanted to experience those choices.

I also wanted not to know what the endings were so I could have an hinest reaction to them, and that also worked. I had heard about RGB, but I didn't know the content.

I was even more surprised at the end by the availability of Control, because I had wanted Shepard to be in favour of Control all along, but the game wouldn't let me do that.

I didn't enjoy the "gameplay". It was really predictable, and I never had the option to do anything creative with it.

Gameplay combinations were great for me. Being able to devastate opponents directly with Bionic force, or indirectly by using control was appealing. Or by controlling the battlefield as an Engineer and watching armor melt under the heat of flaming Turrets. The only class I did not complete one walkthrough with was the Soldier; not enough versatility compared to any of the others, IMO.

But I gave up on controlling Shepard as my character back in ME1, and reinforced by the lack of RP in ME2. In this one, I was more along for the ride, and the humor.

[aoibhealfae]

I don't mind that Shepard is their own person. They're voiced roles, they're already individuals on their own. Just treat it like you're playing Final Fantasy, heck those games are still being called RPGs. I don't really get how ME2 was supposed to be more RP. Shepard acted like a terminator in there. You don't wake up from the dead and then move on like it didn't happen. ME2 Shepard is weird.

[AlanC9]

I was even more surprised at the end by the availability of Control, because I had wanted Shepard to be in favour of Control all along, but the game wouldn't let me do that.

One of the typical objections to the endings is that Control either shouldn't be available, or shouldn't work. Either because it violates the themes -- don't ask me what that's supposed to mean -- or because Shepard shouldn't think that TIM was right about anything because reasons.

Many of the other objections are of a similar nature

[Sylvius the Mad]

Just treat it like you're playing Final Fantasy

I hate those games. For similar reasons.

heck those games are still being called RPGs.

Not by me.