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[panzerwzh]

Hmmm, the hate is strong, this thread.

 

As for Geralt is one dimensional character? Good try.

 

[panzerwzh]

Does anyone seriously think people are talking about actual combat mechanics when comparing the two? 

 

Even if we were to do that, as far as the action gameplay goes if we compare action gameplay to action gameplay, the witcher 3 blows DA:I out of the water in terms of how refined it works for an action game, while DA:I is a horrible hybrid that doesn't quite know what it wants and thus is mediocre in both tactical and action combat.

 

Much of that is coming from TW3 not trying to combine two different genres instead of playing on the strengths of one of them alone.

Good summary of the philosophy behind DA's combat system (exclude DAO). 

[Torgette]

I do think blank slate is better than preset protagonist in the long run, it requires more imagination but in the end is more rewarding imo. Playing as Geralt is fun but in the end it's simply playing as Geralt, you could remove choice altogether and it'd probably still be pretty fun. That said where TW3 succeeds and DAI fails is giving you as many opportunities as possible to make choices, even though a great deal of side quests & contracts were super simple and maybe even repetitive they still gave you little choices to make and memorable cutscenes so while on paper it's not ideal in practice it's better.

[Ieldra]

 

I also have no major objections to smoothing things over with headcanon if necessary. Playing someone like the Warden or the Inquisitor is bound to require this to some degree. I know some people hate that, but that just solidifies my suspicion that these games don't necessarily shoot for the same audience.

I think this points to a difference in players' perceptions and preferences that can't be overstated.

 

Some players prefer to make a story with a character of their own design, to the limit that the game allows.

Some players prefer to being told a story with a fixed protagonist, on the condition they can change a few character traits to make them more identifiable.

 

For first first group, headcanon is just an extension of what they do anyway - envision a character and their story - and a defined protagonist is a significant obstacle to overcome rather than an asset.

For the second group, anything not on-screen is irrelevant, and a fixed protagonist made by professional writers tends to be way more interesting than any created character, because dialogue written for a highly customizable character can never be as deep as with a defined protagonist.

 

Personally, I've always liked the Witcher games for their stories and I like Geralt as a character, limited as he may be compared to my DA characters, but by preference, when playing games I am a roleplayer who wants to make stories, not consume them. I have books, tv shows and movies for the latter. And I agree with the OP that for a roleplayer, the DA games generally have more appeal than the Witcher games. If the Witcher games had more roleplaying appeal, maybe I wouldn't have stopped playing them after getting frustrated by the combat mid-way through TW2. Conversely, I consider it desirable that Bioware stops streamlining their stories more and more. 

[ProphetOfDoom666]

What TW3 is, proves to some people or not, whenever or however that is a personal expirience.Go on and spit poison at each other it won't change my own or the opinion of other people.Geralt is a boring, one dimensional meatsack to me, basta.It seems alot of people take it personal but i don't care.He is a stupid pixel character nothing more.
Happy gaming people.

[panzerwzh]

What TW3 is, proves to some people or not, whenever or however that is a personal expirience.Go on and spit poison at each other it won't change my own or the opinion of other people.Geralt is a boring, one dimensional meatsack to me, basta.It seems alot of people take it personal but i don't care.He is a stupid pixel character nothing more.
Happy gaming people.

Relax dude, I don't think anybody would be interested in your interpretation of Geralt anyway.

 

"Relax people it's a game not a mather of live and death."

 

Come, awesome button time!

 

[ProphetOfDoom666]

Relax dude, I don't think anybody would be interested in your interpretation of Geralt anyway.
 
"Relax people it's a game not a mather of live and death."
 
Come, awesome button time!
 
https://www.youtube....h?v=SV97ozaD4vs

Don't worry "dude" since i have never shared any interpretation of your favourite pixel character, there is no need to be affraid.Try harder next time but don't break your little head over it.

[The Hierophant]

So how long will it be before the mods dump this beast on Off-Topic?

[The Big Red One]

lol, you are the one who seems to be "afraid" (with one f), seeing how you had to be arsed enough to make a thread opposing the other one just to defend DAI's honour. An attempt so transparent, even with all your backhanded compliments towards TW.

But that's none of my business.

 

So how long will it be before the mods dump this beast on Off-Topic?

 

not long I hope. Or at least they should merge them into the bigger ones. where are the mods in this anyway? why are they already not exterminating these repeated witcher threads when CDPR does the same on their forum and when theres already two threads that have 2000+ replies?

[ProphetOfDoom666]

lol, you are the one who seems to be "afraid" (with one f), seeing how you had to be arsed enough to make a thread opposing the other one just to defend DAI's honour. An attempt so transparent, even with all your backhanded compliments towards TW.
But that's none of my business.
 

 
not long I hope. Or at least they should merge them into the bigger ones.

Nice try get some air little man

[The Big Red One]

Nice try get some air little man

 

aw, the little baby has lost its ba-ba.

I will get some fresh air, right after I slam you to my ignore list where you belong and report this thread for being spam as well. like I said, already two existing, much productive threads, both 2000+ replies. and probably even more in the offtopic part of the forum.

 

Tally-ho.

[panzerwzh]

Don't worry "dude" since i have never shared any interpretation of your favourite pixel character, there is no need to be affraid.Try harder next time but don't break your little head over it.

Nameless one says "hi!"

BTW he is fix protagonist as well.

 

Anyway keep up the bad trolling.

[Xetykins]

What TW3 is, proves to some people or not, whenever or however that is a personal expirience.Go on and spit poison at each other it won't change my own or the opinion of other people.Geralt is a boring, one dimensional meatsack to me, basta.It seems alot of people take it personal but i don't care.He is a stupid pixel character nothing more.
Happy gaming people.

You could have just said that in the first place :-)

[Rawgrim]

The combat is terrible in DAI with no real strategy required, and the PC UI for DAI is a POS.

 

Cast Barrier and roll your face all over the controller. That is a perfectly good tactic in DA:I. Beats most enemies.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Cast Barrier and roll your face all over the controller. That is a perfectly good tactic in DA:I. Beats most enemies.

It's a good thing Barrier was implemented so that players wouldn't feel forced to have a healer Mage in the party...

[line_genrou]

Relax dude, I don't think anybody would be interested in your interpretation of Geralt anyway.

 

"Relax people it's a game not a mather of live and death."

 

Come, awesome button time!

 

 

So this is one of the people that destroyed DA...

nice marketing though, hey kids, press the buttom and something awsum will happen oh yeah

[line_genrou]

What TW3 is, proves to some people or not, whenever or however that is a personal expirience.Go on and spit poison at each other it won't change my own or the opinion of other people.Geralt is a boring, one dimensional meatsack to me, basta.It seems alot of people take it personal but i don't care.He is a stupid pixel character nothing more.
Happy gaming people.

 

[correctamundo]

Oops, WDF out in force I see.

[Dutch's Ghost]

Hey folks,

I've seen alot topics, threads about the Witcher 3 and how it is better, superior over DAI.The like of " be more like witcher 3" and " what Witcher 3 does better than DAI".I own both games and have completed both.

Now why do i think DAI is a better "rpg"? Both games are decent games that look simular on the surface although very different inside.It depends on what you think of a rpg and how that relates to the combat, gameplay, story and characters.
Dragon age has the better character developement and character progression.Witcher 3 has a fixed and very plain, one dimensional protagonist.You are stuck with Geralt and his dull voice, personality untill the end.He never evolves or grows in his personality, he stays a very static character.In DAI you can choose your race, gender, class and even specialize into different weapons aswell as skill trees within the class of your choice.That is what i expect from a rpg.I want to create a character that i have in mind and make the decisions to express and form his/her personality.The combat is as terrible as in the witcher 2 and the small amount of skills and character progression doesn't help it either.Nothing flashy or interesting, no real strategy to speak of in the witcher 3 combat.

Don't get me started on the menus in Witcher 3.All in all the gameplay,which is very important too is alot better in Dragon age inquisition than in the witcher 3.

The witcher 3 has the more intresting story.But you can skip a cutscene, dialogue but you can't skip the combat and gameplay.

So please Bioware improve on the good aspects in DAI but don't just go the "be more like game x" route.Bioware games have their own strengths aswell as weaknesses like any other game.

Edit: i like both games but for different reasons.Also what i said is my personal feelings, opinion.People are different so are opinions.Just relax people it's a game not a mather of live and death.

Cheers

 

Gameplay in DAI sucks donkey. I honestly cant see how people like it since it lacks the indepth tactics menu seen in both DAO and DA2, giving your AI companions orders in the tactics menu mitigates your AI from being complete idiots that ignore your orders and get themselves killed. DAI lacks this important feature, t his is why DAI sucks in the gameplay department because your idiotic AI does not listen to your orders and they get themselves frequently killed because Bioware is a lazy developer that betrayed its fans.

[BioWareMod01]

Greetings this thread is being closed because the discussion has become hostile.