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[Aren]

Merrill (with the knowledge of Audacity) managed to remove the taint from a shard, the eluvians are somehow living like any other things that can be corrupted by the taint,is Merrill method a good way to start to remove the taint from living structures?

[thats1evildude]

From the Last Flight:

"There was, as far as Isseya knew, no way to destroy the darkspawn taint in a living creature. It grew and spread like a cancer, and she had never heard of a cure. There was only the Joining and that was only a delay."

Removing the taint from a nonliving object required a great deal of power. I imagine curing the living of the taint is nearly impossible.

[Dai Grepher]

No. All they did was extract the taint. They did not destroy the taint. I think a legitimate cure would be destroying the taint at the chemical and magical level, not simply moving it from one place to another.

 

Also, I am not sold on the idea that the taint only corrupts living material. We have lore stating that minerals can contain the taint and that nothing except a certain plant will grow in that soil. So lyrium and the eluvians could still be non-living material.

 

My theory is that the taint is physical and magical. Therefore, it can corrupt anything that is physical or magical. Dwarves are living but not magical. They can be corrupted physically. Lyrium and eluvians are magical but not living. They can be corrupted magically.

 

Also, the taint can exist in soil. Which means, dirt with taint between the grains. Can the taint be separated from the dirt and the dirt will be fine? I think so. Similar to how a steel blade can be covered in tainted blood, but so long as you wash it off, the sword will be fine. Allowing the taint to sit on the sword for years might eat into the blade though.

[SmilesJA]

I don't think so, like the poster above stated you can't destroy the taint just extract it.

[electricfish]

I'd like to add that in Last Flight, a tainted living thing (vague because spoilers) had the corruption removed via powerful blood magic and placed within another living being. So while the Blight can be extracted and moved from a living thing, it must be put somewhere else for the original thing to be "cured." So unless someone wants to volunteer to have the Blight taken into themselves (or some stockpile of luyrium) what Merril and Isseya did should be considered a band-aid at best.

[Fondragon]

We should all calm down and let the Warden figure this out okay?

[Reznore57]

Fiona was cured of the Blight , but no one really knows how it happened .

[Dieb]

Well, are we certain that it is even the  taint, which had befallen her Eluvian?

[Sifr]

Duncan mentioned in the Dalish Origin that if the Dalish were to return to the area, they must cleanse the area with fire first to make it safe, which is seemingly echoed in how the Ostagar soldier showing the dead Genlock mentions that they'll burn the corpse later to prevent it infecting anyone. But I doubt that Merrill used this method as it'd probably destroy the shard in the process, which is why she turned to the demon for help.

 

Also, the taint can exist in soil. Which means, dirt with taint between the grains. Can the taint be separated from the dirt and the dirt will be fine? I think so. Similar to how a steel blade can be covered in tainted blood, but so long as you wash it off, the sword will be fine. Allowing the taint to sit on the sword for years might eat into the blade though.

 

Yeah, that's probably why the Warden and party don't have to burn their clothes, armour and weaponry every time they find themselves fighting darkspawn and get covered in it's blood. As long as they remove the blood and gore from their gear between battles (which they should anyway, regardless of whether they're fighting darkspawn), they'll be safe since they won't give the taint enough time to "sink in" and spread the corruption.

 

The Eluvian was probably corrupted either because of something that happened to it in the distant past, or through constant low-level exposure to the taint either present in the ruin or carried by blighted creatures within, such as the bereskarn.

[Mordray Darkblood]

The taint can probably exist in soil due to microbial life that exists within all soil, dirt... Life is very persistent.

[Aren]

Fiona was cured of the Blight , but no one really knows how it happened .

Mary sue syndrome

[Sifr]

My theory is that as the first generation of Darkspawn in existence, the Magisters are capable of manipulating the taint to a degree, which is why the Architect was capable of accelerating the corruption (and possibly reversing it), why Corypheus could control Red Lyrium, soul-surf into another tainted individual within reach, and why both were capable of exerting a degree of influence on regular darkspawn.

[Fearsome1]

Fiona was cured of the Blight , but no one really knows how it happened .

 

Yeah! Maybe it's about time to clear that all up?

[DeathScepter]

Fiona was cured of the Blight , but no one really knows how it happened .

 

 

Well she was cured of the blight for she is an Mary Sue.

[In Exile]

I'd like to add that in Last Flight, a tainted living thing (vague because spoilers) had the corruption removed via powerful blood magic and placed within another living being. So while the Blight can be extracted and moved from a living thing, it must be put somewhere else for the original thing to be "cured." So unless someone wants to volunteer to have the Blight taken into themselves (or some stockpile of luyrium) what Merril and Isseya did should be considered a band-aid at best.

Yeah. Something like a giant stockpile of lyrium in a big gold castle-like building. If it were, I dunno, in a separate dimension or something (like if a kind of curtain just separated it from the rest of us) we'd all be super safe from the ever encroaching blight. Well, unless some idiot opened that place up and ended up getting infected...

[Reznore57]

Yeah. Something like a giant stockpile of lyrium in a big gold castle-like building. If it were, I dunno, in a separate dimension or something (like if a kind of curtain just separated it from the rest of us) we'd all be super safe from the ever encroaching blight. Well, unless some idiot opened that place up and ended up getting infected...

 

Sure but who puts corruption in some golden castle and think "Oh I'm sure nobody will ever want to go there!"?

The world is full of idiots .

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

If extracting the taint and putting it elsewhere is the most effective way of "getting rid" of it, I could see it as a decent way for veteran Wardens who've served their ~30 years to actually have a retirement, while infusing it into a new recruit/volunteer could be a decent alternative to the Joining. Hell, maybe they like being Wardens a lot and don't want to retire--they could possibly even trade it back and forth every ~30 years until they die of old age!

 

I was thinking about the cure not long ago and how if no one's found a true cure in over a thousand years, then there likely isn't one. "Nihil novi sub sole," after all. If that's the case, then this would be a good alternative, I think.  Hope my Hero of Ferelden learns of that before his and his companions' ~30 years are up!

[Aren]

Removing the taint from a nonliving object required a great deal of power. I imagine curing the living of the taint is nearly impossible.

Strange that GW children are completely unaffected by the taint of one of the parents,someone know why?

Is removed but why?

[Aren]

 

 

I was thinking about the cure not long ago and how if no one's found a true cure in over a thousand years, then there likely isn't one. "

 

 the entire meaning of being a GW

(the sacrifice to willingly accept the corruption) would be diminished if the writers will introduce a way to cure the calling.

[CDR Aedan Cousland]

I believe that a cure did not exist,in DAII Flemeth give to me the impression that not even her with the knowledge of Mythal know how to remove the taint,when she talk with Aveline about her husband.

i find also that the entire meaning of being a GW

(the sacrifice to willingly accept the corruption) would be diminished if the writers will introduce a way to cure the calling out of nowhere.

 

It doesn't have to be all sacrifice all the time, lol. Outside of a Blight, the Wardens aren't really needed. Therefore, significantly shortening your lifespan is a needless waste of life. Being forced to die in battle when you start hearing the calling or turn into a ghoul is not a "tradition" someone should be forced to carry on. It's all unnecessary. Sacrifice should only be necessary during a Blight. If the Joining and other Warden things weren't confidential, they wouldn't and shouldn't exist between Blights and other exceptional cases (like in Awakening) in the first place. As I said, it's a terrible waste of life. Risking your life for the Joining, risking your life for the world, and serving your time should be enough "sacrifice" for them.

[turuzzusapatuttu]

It doesn't have to be all sacrifice all the time, lol. Outside of a Blight, the Wardens aren't really needed. Therefore, significantly shortening your lifespan is a needless waste of life. Being forced to die in battle when you start hearing the calling or turn into a ghoul is not a "tradition" someone should be forced to carry on. It's all unnecessary. Sacrifice should only be necessary during a Blight. If the Joining and other Warden things weren't confidential, they wouldn't and shouldn't exist between Blights and other exceptional cases (like in Awakening) in the first place. As I said, it's a terrible waste of life. Risking your life for the Joining, risking your life for the world, and serving your time should be enough "sacrifice" for them.

 

But there would be no drama.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

From the Last Flight:

"There was, as far as Isseya knew, no way to destroy the darkspawn taint in a living creature. It grew and spread like a cancer, and she had never heard of a cure. There was only the Joining and that was only a delay."

Removing the taint from a nonliving object required a great deal of power. I imagine curing the living of the taint is nearly impossible.

I've often wondered how, then, the flower in DAO that you get for Dog worked? He's being cured of drinking too much darkspawn blood. Presumably he's tainted. If the flower just did something simple like make him throw up, I doubt that would have been in time to remove the taint. Did that kennelmaster have the cure for the blight? Or a method to effectively make a dog a grey warden? lol

 

The Eluvian was probably corrupted either because of something that happened to it in the distant past, or through constant low-level exposure to the taint either present in the ruin or carried by blighted creatures within, such as the bereskarn.

Or because wherever city it leads to is tainted.

[Aren]

It doesn't have to be all sacrifice all the time, lol. Outside of a Blight, the Wardens aren't really needed. Therefore, significantly shortening your lifespan is a needless waste of life. Being forced to die in battle when you start hearing the calling or turn into a ghoul is not a "tradition" someone should be forced to carry on. It's all unnecessary. Sacrifice should only be necessary during a Blight. If the Joining and other Warden things weren't confidential, they wouldn't and shouldn't exist between Blights and other exceptional cases (like in Awakening) in the first place. As I said, it's a terrible waste of life. Risking your life for the Joining, risking your life for the world, and serving your time should be enough "sacrifice" for them.

Only the most disgraced people that are near to their death or in a terrible situation become GW like the Warden of DAO (except the carta dwarf) or Loghain(my sacrifice he was already dead at that point) ,they are spared from their fate for another death sentence.

To become GW outside of a blight or massive darkspawn attack (Architect) is the only  imho  waste of lifes and AD blood.

[Dai Grepher]

The taint can probably exist in soil due to microbial life that exists within all soil, dirt... Life is very persistent.

 

That's a good point. It is possible that the taint only exists in the microbes, or the tainted blood takes a long time to break down, but not the minerals of the soil itself.