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Why does it seem like the Native American Race is just excluded from almost every Role Playing Game?  :huh:

 

 

EDIT: I do not want to see another post stating that Native Americans are "Nearly Extinct" It has been expressed multiple times and is simply untrue. Or a post that says that if a Native American preset was made that every single other race would need to be made into a preset. I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS:

 

EDIT 2: I also think there should be a new Asian Race preset, as I believe there is one, though BioWare should make a better one.

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Ancient Egyptian features are not around anymore, and maybe can be made anyway by changing a Caucasian preset, and as I said before, many Races can be created by using other presets, but Native Americans and Inuits have distinct facial Features. A Native American Face preset would cover many Races from the Americas I think, like maybe descendants of Central American Natives. Look at this: Chakotay-star-trek-voyager-3982178-1024-

Did you see this?

 

 

I was wrong about Egyptian features not being around anymore, because I don't know if they are around or not.

 

 

 

 

And I do not want to see irrelevant posts and posts that say "Deal with it"

 

 

Many of the posts I quoted seem like they are trying to suppress the Idea of having a Native American preset. Why? It's a simple request. There is NO need to argue.

 

 

The Mass Effect class system has already resolved this issue:

Soldier/Black
Adept/Asian
Engineer/Caucasian
Infiltrator/Black+Caucasian
Vanguard/Black+Asian
Sentinel/Asian+Caucasian
*Composit/Black+Asian+Caucasian

Bioware simply does a preset for each of these and all the various races/ethnic groups of the world are covered. All of them.

Be satisfied.

*Not actually available in-game but possible in-universe.

 

 

And the vast majority of those 130 million aren't pure-bred native Japanese (e.g. ainu) people.

 

Pure-bred native Japanese people are definitely dying out, just like the pure-bred native American people.

 

 

Wait. So you're saying they are very distinct, yet you don't know what they really are? How can you say what is and isn't a Native American feature if you don't know? From what I understand of Native American physiological features:

  • Golden/brown skin
  • Black Hair
  • Large-wide cheekbones (some)

This should be pretty easily attainable in most CC's, with that said ME's CC was pretty sketchy when it came to cheekbones. I have faith it can be done in ME:A though. 

 

Also I do think there have been "Native American" presets. The "stereotypical" "hispanic" preset looks Native American, since the preset is generally made to look like Central Americans, whom the majority are partly Native American. Unlike in North America where it's primarily white and black.  

 

 

Ummm what?  :huh: There are no photos of Ancient Egyptians so we don't know, but they all passed their genetic info around so people do carry Ancient Egyptian DNA in their genetic code, and their features as well. I've heard a lot of speculation on what they looked like: Some say they were black, white, middle eastern, even Spaniard. 

 

 

The fact is "Native Americans" count for a very small portion of the world's population. What you are asking is for Bioware to pander to one specific race, which would be fair to all other minority's.

 

Also Assassins Creed 3 had a Native American main character.  

 

I said a Native American preset, not a Native American set looking character that you cannot change.

 

And

 

Most presets can be changed, and are supposed to be changed to match the race that is trying to be achieved in a video game. But there is no Native American race preset in any video games I've played as I said and I've attempted to make a Native American in some games, and may have succeeded, but it wasn't as good. Native Americans have distinct features most of the time, and those who have Distinct features can often be altered in video games to match a Race that is very alike. There just is no Native American preset to match with Inuits in video games. I think Almost all of the rest of the Races are accounted for, but I'm not sure.

 

Cause Native Americans are nearly extinct and probably will be fully absorbed by the other races by the time ME:A takes place, just like the Japanese and many other minority races (that are actual minorities as in; not many of them left).

 

^^^ Most likely untrue, as I have said, Star Trek had a Native American main Character and so did Gears of War.


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I want an Asian face preset. It's almost impossible to make a good Asian face. Most of them look mixed at best.
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What exactly is a Native American preset?

And should we add native presets for every other country? Inuit and Aboriginals spring to mind.



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What exactly is a Native American preset?

And should we add native presets for every other country? Inuit and Aboriginals spring to mind.

It's a simple request, EDIT: I don't know if you are you challenging it. Native Americans have distinct facial features most of the time and somewhat look alike to Inuits thus the name of the preset would not be distinguished, as it is in Mass Effect, but the Native American preset could be changed to look like an Inuit easily I think. I cannot recall one time I've seen a Native American preset in a video game, I have seen Caucasian presets, which account for British, American, Spanish, Mexican, European and sometimes Asian looking characters (Most of the time there is an Asian preset I think). I've not seen one Native American preset in a video game.


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I want an Asian face preset. It's almost impossible to make a good Asian face. Most of them look mixed at best.

I might try making an Asian Male Shepard or Female Shepard and see how it goes. I've thought about it before.



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Add the Huns. Bioverplox.


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Add the Huns. Bioverplox.

I'm pretty sure you could create a Hun by altering an Asian preset.



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Native Americans have distinct facial features most of the time

Such as? I honestly don't know enough about Native Americans to identify their facial features.



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I'm pretty sure you could create a Hun by altering an Asian preset.

 

You are going to get a lot of people conflating this request with asking for something extremely specific as a way to belittle the request itself, and some who blatantly dismiss the request as the demand of an "entitled SJW" who's offended by the very portrayal of white people. 

 

Oh boy, are the fallacies are going to fly.

 

You have my support. And my sympathies. 


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I support this. I'd like to make a Native American looking character yeah.


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You are going to get a lot of people conflating this request with asking for something extremely specific as a way to belittle the request itself, and some who blatantly dismiss the request as the demand of an "entitled SJW" who's offended by the very existence and portrayal of white people. 

 

Oh boy, are the fallacies are going to fly.

 

You have my support. And my sympathies. 

Most presets can be changed, and are supposed to be changed to match the race that is trying to be achieved in a video game. But there is no Native American race preset in any video games I've played as I said and I've attempted to make a Native American in some games, and may have succeeded, but it wasn't as good. Native Americans have distinct features most of the time, and those who have Distinct features can often be altered in video games to match a Race that is very alike. There just is no Native American preset to match with Inuits in video games. I think Almost all of the rest of the Races are accounted for, but I'm not sure.



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I'm from Alaska and I just want to say... One preset really isn't going to cover the diversity of face shapes on American Natives. Heck, I can't even make me convincingly, and I'm like 85% white girl and then a little Cherokee and this and that. (Not that one preset really covers the diversity of white faces either. Oh well. It's not actually easy to make replicas of real people in any of the ME creators, though I feel I do all right making people who COULD be real. And significantly less awkward to play people who don't resemble friends and family, I guess.) 

 

Which, of course, is why more options and more tweakability on the character creator would be just peachy keen and I support that entirely.


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i dont think its a Lack of 'Not want' from BW...but more about 'Can't do' .....the CC of Mass effect was very Limited . 



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Such as? I honestly don't know enough about Native Americans to identify their facial features.

I cannot really explain them to you, they are very distinct, that's why game developers create presets. Some of the options of facial features of Native Americans are just not available after picking a Caucasian preset in a video game.


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i dont think its a Lack of 'Not want' from BW...but more about 'Can't do' .....the CC of Mass effect was very Limited . 

I see what you're saying but I'm pretty sure BioWare can manage creating a couple new face presets, many video games do.


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I see what you're saying but I'm pretty sure BioWare can manage creating a couple new presets, many video games do.

yeah but isn't mass effect in the futur ? and the new Andromeda will be in a new Galaxy....so earth is far far far away....

 

I be happy with less fugly preset personally . 


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Also the next game is made for Next Gen consoles, so that will be beneficial not only to console players but Computer players also as Facial Features will most likely be more accurate.


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I was going to see what I could do -- I'm not bad with the creator -- but then Origin decided to update, so bleh.

 

I will say DudeShep is probably a lost cause. There's someone out there who can make DudeSheps not look like hideous hambeasts 90% of the time, and that someone is not me. Bioware, please show real gender equality and make it so that everyone doesn't play the default dude just because all other attempts at creating a dude result in struggle, pain, and questioning of reality.

 

Better Dudecreation in Andromeda, please.


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I couldn't find any presets for the character in Mass Effect 4.



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I was going to see what I could do -- I'm not bad with the creator -- but then Origin decided to update, so bleh.

 

I will say DudeShep is probably a lost cause. There's someone out there who can make DudeSheps not look like hideous hambeasts 90% of the time, and that someone is not me. Bioware, please show real gender equality and make it so that everyone doesn't play the default dude just because all other attempts at creating a dude result in struggle, pain, and questioning of reality.

 

Better Dudecreation in Andromeda, please.

I thought there was a picture of the new character preset for Mass Effect 4 but I was wrong.



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That is Inappropriate if you are talking about adding a Native American or another Race's preset.

I said Preset....

 

and I'm all for your idea....but the preset no matter what colors they are...they are random...and I always end up having to make my own instead of picking one pre-made . So chill..



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Hmm I guess I can't find any real presets for Mass Effect 4 then.



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Stand_04C4.jpg

mass-effect-4.jpg

There you go.

These aren't actual images. These are fanmade. Mass Effect: Andromeda isn't even on the Unreal engine.



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I said Preset....

 

and I'm all for your idea....but the preset no matter what colors they are...they are random...and I always end up having to make my own instead of picking one pre-made . So chill..

Your post is fine, I was just making sure it wasn't inappropriate.  :lol:



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yeah but isn't mass effect in the futur ? and the new Andromeda will be in a new Galaxy....so earth is far far far away....

 

 

I'm pretty sure there will still be Native Americans and Inuits in the future. If people were colonizing other worlds then Native Americans and Inuits probably will make up part of the people who are leaving earth to start colonies on other planets.


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