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#76
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Cause Native Americans are nearly extinct and probably will be fully absorbed by the other races by the time ME:A takes place, just like the Japanese and many other minority races (that are actual minorities as in; not many of them left).

 

130 million Japanese people worldwide is not many of them left ? If Wikipedia's to be believed they're in the Top 10 of largest ethnic groups by population.



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130 million Japanese people worldwide is not many of them left ? If Wikipedia's to be believed they're in the Top 10 of largest ethnic groups by population.

 

And the vast majority of those 130 million aren't pure-bred native Japanese (e.g. ainu) people.

 

Pure-bred native Japanese people are definitely dying out, just like the pure-bred native American people.



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And the vast majority of those 130 million aren't pure-bred native Japanese (e.g. ainu) people.

 

Pure-bred native Japanese people are definitely dying out, just like the pure-bred native American people.

 

Right, they're too miscegenated to qualify at this point



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Right, they're too miscegenated to qualify at this point

 

Exactly my point.

 

In the near and distant future more and more people will be of mixed ethnicity and some ethnic groups will be completely absorbed as a result of it. It's one of the few realistic things that is addressed in the Mass Effect lore. Not just races of color will disappear though. The Aryan race will also disappear. In the Mass Effect books it's stated that Kahlee Sanders is one of the very few Aryans left.



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Exactly my point.

 

In the near and distant future more and more people will be of mixed ethnicity and some ethnic groups will be completely absorbed as a result of it. It's one of the few realistic things that is addressed in the Mass Effect lore. Not just races of color will disappear though. The Aryan race will also disappear. In the Mass Effect books it's stated that Kahlee Sanders is one of the very few Aryans left.

 

Everybody just gotta keep f***in' everybody 'til they're all the same color.


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Everybody just gotta keep f***in' everybody 'til they're all the same color.

 

It's funny that this only applies to humans. All other species are more or less homogen already. Or they don't give a **** about skin color.


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Exactly my point.

 

In the near and distant future more and more people will be of mixed ethnicity and some ethnic groups will be completely absorbed as a result of it. It's one of the few realistic things that is addressed in the Mass Effect lore. Not just races of color will disappear though. The Aryan race will also disappear. In the Mass Effect books it's stated that Kahlee Sanders is one of the very few Aryans left.

 

Fine, but that hasn't happened yet tho, so people will still want to make characters who look like them. And if they should be denied that "cuz realism" then going by those standards making someone who looks more Native American or Mexican is more realistic than making someone blue eyed and pale.



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I'm pretty sure you could create a Hun by altering an Asian preset.

You could say the exact same thing for Native Americans. 

 

Fine, but that hasn't happened yet tho, so people will still want to make characters who look like them. And if they should be denied that "cuz realism" then going by those standards making someone who looks more Native American or Mexican is more realistic than making someone blue eyed and pale.

Because why? An extreme minority, you can make hispanic characters by the way, makes more since than the larger majority? 



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Because why? An extreme minority, you can make hispanic characters by the way, makes more since than the larger majority? 

 

 

because in ME pale skin and blue eyes are the extreme minority, not darker complexions. 



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Again, that doesn't make any sense. The fact that lighter complexions haven't been completely absorbed yet does not support the sudden reappearance and growth of Native American features. It supports the opposite, if anything. Native Americans assimilated completely, Western Europeans not so much yet. That's all that has been supported. 


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All I know about Native Americans is, their women are fine as hell. Until they get old. Kinda like asian chicks.

 

I can say this because I'm like, totally some ridiculous fraction of some tribe from somewhere. I'm not racist. My wife is black.

 

Edit to add: My high cheekbones are glorious.  I attribute them to my Native American heritage, which I know little to nothing about, except that my biological grandfather, whom I've never met, is hella Native and stuff. I'd go find him, but whatever. 


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Fine, but that hasn't happened yet tho, so people will still want to make characters who look like them. And if they should be denied that "cuz realism" then going by those standards making someone who looks more Native American or Mexican is more realistic than making someone blue eyed and pale.

 

No one is stopping you from trying to make an Native-American Shepard. But don't expect BioWare to cater to your needs and add a Native-American preset when it doesn't actually fit the lore.



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Again, that doesn't make any sense. The fact that lighter complexions haven't been completely absorbed yet does not support the sudden reappearance and growth of Native American features. It supports the opposite, if anything. Native Americans assimilated completely, Western Europeans not so much yet. That's all that has been supported. 

 

I wasn't saying it did. I said they should let people design what they want to in the CC and that darker complexions are described to be the majority in the ME universe. doesn't mean I don't want them to have pale people. Just that darker features are more consistent with the setting



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No one is stopping you from trying to make an Native-American Shepard. But don't expect BioWare to cater to your needs and add a Native-American preset when it doesn't actually fit the lore.

 

Not my needs. I couldn't care less about doing it myself.

 

Again if fitting the lore is the concern you're citing, pale skin is more conspicuous than darker ethnicities. 



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No one is stopping you from trying to make an Native-American Shepard. But don't expect BioWare to cater to your needs and add a Native-American preset when it doesn't actually fit the lore.

Why the hell does it matter?

 

The OP was asking for something that he or she would like. That's all. Something that within the ME universe has neither been confirmed nor denied, something that in the grand scheme of the ME universe doesn't matter. It's something the OP would like in a game he/she has an interest in and has played despite the fact that it hasn't been there before. He/She is not calling racism, is not blaming BioWare or really anything.

 

It's the equivalent of asking for more hair options.

 

(Sorry I had to get that out of my system)


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We need an Israeli preset just as much as we need this.



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technically skin tone is still dependent on the amount of sun exposure you get. Do you think Shepard would realistically have a golden tan after being off world for god knows how long....

 

again, space magic



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I seem to remember reading somewhere that the devs stated that the majority of humans were multi-racial in the Mass Effect universe.

 

Not that I would object to a Native American pre-set, mind you.



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What's the point of having specific presets? Just give players large degree of control over the different aspects of the face and they will be able to create people of different ethnicities easily. For example, being able to change eye shape, depth, color, size, spacing, length of eyelashes... All being changed smoothly, not by switching through existing presets. 



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The Mass Effect class system has already resolved this issue:

Soldier/Black
Adept/Asian
Engineer/Caucasian
Infiltrator/Black+Caucasian
Vanguard/Black+Asian
Sentinel/Asian+Caucasian
*Composit/Black+Asian+Caucasian

Bioware simply does a preset for each of these and all the various races/ethnic groups of the world are covered. All of them.

Be satisfied.

*Not actually available in-game but possible in-universe.

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What's the point of having specific presets? Just give players large degree of control over the different aspects of the face and they will be able to create people of different ethnicities easily. For example, being able to change eye shape, depth, color, size, spacing, length of eyelashes... All being changed smoothly, not by switching through existing presets. 

I think Bioware would have to up their character creation game. More about 'moulding' a face and less about sliders etc. I mean, DAI's character creator is wonderful, but the face you end up with is still affected by the preset you pick.

 

I like the idea of different presets simply because people have different levels of competence with the cc, but still might want a polished face that they like. But personally, I'd be fine so long as the range of customisation options allow you to make lots of different things.



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I think Bioware would have to up their character creation game. More about 'moulding' a face and less about sliders etc. I mean, DAI's character creator is wonderful, but the face you end up with is still affected by the preset you pick.

 

I like the idea of different presets simply because people have different levels of competence with the cc, but still might want a polished face that they like. But personally, I'd be fine so long as the range of customisation options allow you to make lots of different things.

I kinda liked what Bethesda did with Fallout 4 face customization. Pick a face part and modify it with mouse. No sliders. Haven't tried it, obviously, but the idea is right IMO.



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Initial presets as templates the user can modify further.
Instead of preset proportions(nose bridge size and all that) all proportions should be customizable.
That way people can create a "native" and modify him/her to have more specific face features.

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Cause Native Americans are nearly extinct and probably will be fully absorbed by the other races by the time ME:A takes place, just like the Japanese and many other minority races (that are actual minorities as in; not many of them left).

What are you talking about? The Japanese have a gigantic population. Native Americans are all over america, Inuits are all over in Canada and Alaska. Why even post something like this?



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The Mass Effect class system has already resolved this issue:

Soldier/Black
Adept/Asian
Engineer/Caucasian
Infiltrator/Black+Caucasian
Vanguard/Black+Asian
Sentinel/Asian+Caucasian
*Composit/Black+Asian+Caucasian

Bioware simply does a preset for each of these and all the various races/ethnic groups of the world are covered. All of them.

Be satisfied.

*Not actually available in-game but possible in-universe.

No. This isn't about what Bioware has done in the past.