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[WittyUsername]

PC will likely have this by default. There's a lot of talk about the remaster for new generation.

 

With all the bells and whistles attached to creating a remaster, one thing I would like is there to be "flags" for your imported saves. While, yes, they should distant themselves from Shepard's story, it would also probably be a shame to ignore your original Shepard as well. Or your favorite Shepard, which ever you important.

I think importanting saves could give some extra, likely small details. Fun things.

You may see people talking about finding the new Rachni homeworld assuming you spared the queen. Perhaps you could find a poster of your Shepard somewhere.

My own favorite example, because I'm a fanboy:
- If you cured the Genophage with Mordin and Eve and Wrex survived, you get to meet Urdnot Mordin (Or maybe Urdnot Padok?).

- If you cured the Genophage but with Wreav, he'll have a different name and likely more violent

- Sabotaging the Genophage cure, he won't exist.

 

Various other smaller things that won't disrupt the world and have little to no affect on your own character's story.

 

I guess importing a save could give you access to Shepard's own N7 Armor (or a replica of it) but eh. Not sure.

 

What do you think?

[Gothfather]

Not a fan.

 

I really think they should start FRESH and not do all of this saving imports and/or doing a dragon keep for ME:A.

 

It is my understanding that the game takes place hundreds of years in the future of ME3. Shepard should be legend and not topical. Old Crew of the Normandy should also be legend and child of X crew member making a cameo would just be fan service for the sake of fan service and not something I think would make the game better for having included it.

 

As a fan I hate fan service because a good games or series doesn't need fan service.

 

With platform changes involved there is simply no reason to go through a huge work around for console gamers to get their saves imported when ME:A is not ME:4.

 

The problems of the Milky way should STAY in the milky way aka not be imported to Andromeda re save games. The legend of Shepard should be very vague and actually filled with inaccurate material and contradictory material. As history is never 100% accurate, even if 1001 morons go 'My Shepard would never do X,' I'd hate to see a purely accurate accounting of events from a group separated by both TIME and SPACE. The best way to do this is to have an official history independent of actually happen. Or to put it another way, what people in Andromeda believe to be true isn't canon. Not official canon and not 'head' canon either. They simply believe a version of history independent of a save game's results.

 

Hell if you gave just the Sex, class and paragon/Renegade status of Shepard that should be enough, as Andromeda is isolated from the source material, so things should be fuzzy on the details with regards to the reaper war.

[WittyUsername]

Understandable, but this also depends just how we're meant to get to the Andromeda galaxy. It may be a lot less disconnected than it reasonably should. Depends on the quality of writing, there.

 

Problem with just how far in time it is from the original series, we were told two contradictory things. Earlier, it was stated that this takes place within Shepard's lifetime, now we're told it takes far into the future. There's also the problem that while it needs a fresh start, it also does take place within the same universe, and depending just how far, far is, certain topics will need to be raised.

Even if Krogans are away from the Milky Way, they could potentially still have the genophage within their system. Them being part of colony prospect would likely make their attempts fairly futile. Sure, most probably signed up for adventuring, a paycheck, and hoping for a good fight, but at some point they'll want to breed. Depending on what happened by your Shepard, that could be a problem.

 

Now if this Ark thing I keep hearing about is a thing, problem could be minute. But not sure on the details of that.

 

Perhaps it's also just me wanting to make use of my old saves and want to see those actions represented in some form. This way seemed to allow that "flavor" to be added without ignoring New Protagonist's own story.

[Sanunes]

I rather BioWare just ignore the past games and not have any level of import.  If they do decide to go the route of an import it will be in the form of The Keep because attaching it to a major purchase just seems to be a good way to frustrate a good number of people before they even play the game because "EA is making us spend "x" dollars for an import" for at least with Dragon Age: Inquisition they wanted to treat all players equally on the import front.

 

The problem with wanting any level of import is that it will be either too much or too little for there really isn't a Goldilocks Zone that will be good, for if its just minor things like NPC names it just seems like a lot of work and if they go too far they will run into the exact same problems that Mass Effect 3 had with its imports.  I believe they need to have a new approach to how the game approaches choices and starting fresh I think would be the best way to approach it.

[BraveVesperia]

The Urdnot example could work, since krogan are so long lived that if ME:A was set hundreds of years after ME3, s/he would still be alive. They'd have to be on the ship going to Andromeda. If they set up something like the DA Keep, this import could easily be tracked with other information that the series might use in future.

 

It's as close as I'd like to get to returning characters.

[WittyUsername]

On the other hand, some player choice of the previous entries are almost needed to be addressed. Those are the ones that have the bigger impacts, Krogan Genophage, Geth and Quarian war, namely. There are others like the Rachni but they're fairly minor.

 

Ignoring some of those seems a bit of a slap in the face.

 

The previous poster spoke to it as fan service, and it proably is, but that's also a bit of lore importance. Now, if we set sail for the Andromeda say between ME2 and 3 (Or 1 and 2), and happened to have these guys ready for colonization with us before the Reaper invasion, then that's not much of an issue.

[Hellamarian]

If Andromeda has to have the rest of the trilogy have an impact, which I don't want at all, it should be done via a Keep function with plenty of small choices.

 

Still holding out for a Shiala romance.

[WittyUsername]

The old trilogy would naturally have an impact. While the new game is set in a new Galaxy, the people come from the Milky Way. They carry home with them. That's generally true for colonization.

And ME3 brings out the most questions having the biggest impact on specific species.

[Panda]

I'd personally like to have some nods towards previous games.

[Olivia Wilde]

Any references to previous games should be just that..references only and have no effect on gameplay

 

It would be hard for Bioware to distance itself from the original trilogy otherwise

[WittyUsername]

The proposed idea is initially just references. Granted references depending on save imports or Keep-esque style (I suppose, I never really played any Dragon Age myself) but they should not have any effect on mission, story, much less something as important as a squaddie.

[DarkTl]

The Urdnot example could work, since krogan are so long lived that if ME:A was set hundreds of years after ME3, s/he would still be alive.

And asari live even longer. Pretty much any asari could be in ME:A. Maybe except Samara since she could be killed in the quest.

Like that green one for example.

[Almostfaceman]

Absolutely there should be a Keep feature for Mass Effect. Hold them accountable for figuring out the consequences of Space Magic, I say.

 

[WittyUsername]

The space magic would be the toughest one to dance around.

[SolNebula]

IMO this ME:A won't have any type of import feature because they just want to get away from the original trilogy, however the next ME after Andromeda is going to have such feature like DA:Keep.

 

It's their desire to create a new world and avoid tackling the issues of the old series.

[Almostfaceman]

IMO this ME:A won't have any type of import feature because they just want to get away from the original trilogy, however the next ME after Andromeda is going to have such feature like DA:Keep.

 

It's their desire to create a new world and avoid tackling the issues of the old series.

 

You're probably right. But dammit... Space Magic.

 

[exboomer]

Not a fan.

 

I really think they should start FRESH and not do all of this saving imports and/or doing a dragon keep for ME:A.

 

It is my understanding that the game takes place hundreds of years in the future of ME3. Shepard should be legend and not topical. Old Crew of the Normandy should also be legend and child of X crew member making a cameo would just be fan service for the sake of fan service and not something I think would make the game better for having included it.

 

As a fan I hate fan service because a good games or series doesn't need fan service.

 

With platform changes involved there is simply no reason to go through a huge work around for console gamers to get their saves imported when ME:A is not ME:4.

 

The problems of the Milky way should STAY in the milky way aka not be imported to Andromeda re save games. The legend of Shepard should be very vague and actually filled with inaccurate material and contradictory material. As history is never 100% accurate, even if 1001 morons go 'My Shepard would never do X,' I'd hate to see a purely accurate accounting of events from a group separated by both TIME and SPACE. The best way to do this is to have an official history independent of actually happen. Or to put it another way, what people in Andromeda believe to be true isn't canon. Not official canon and not 'head' canon either. They simply believe a version of history independent of a save game's results.

 

Hell if you gave just the Sex, class and paragon/Renegade status of Shepard that should be enough, as Andromeda is isolated from the source material, so things should be fuzzy on the details with regards to the reaper war.

 

An event like the Reaper attack would be anything but historically fuzzy IMO. Is the Civil War fuzzy?  And I haven't read anything that suggests that Andromeda takes place hundreds of years in the future from the events in the trilogy. In fact just the opposite is probably true.  If Bioware goes the Ark route in explaining how humans got to Andromeda then the events in Andromeda could take place just a few years or decades after the end of the Reapers. 

[Indigenous]

On the other hand, some player choice of the previous entries are almost needed to be addressed. Those are the ones that have the bigger impacts, Krogan Genophage, Geth and Quarian war, namely. There are others like the Rachni but they're fairly minor.

 

Ignoring some of those seems a bit of a slap in the face.

 

There are probably going to be some general references to Shepard. If the journey to Andromeda began in ME3 then I guess they may remember Shepard leading the fight against the Reapers. I don't think choices will be imported.

 

Also none of these issues are complex. They can easily be retconned or solved in Andromeda. Quarians and Geth have nothing to fight for. Krogans can be cured/infected of/with the Genophage anytime the Salarians want to. Whether you killed the Rachni queen or not, didn't stop them from coming back.

 

 

An event like the Reaper attack would be anything but historically fuzzy IMO. Is the Civil War fuzzy?  And I haven't read anything that suggests that Andromeda takes place hundreds of years in the future from the events in the trilogy. In fact just the opposite is probably true.  If Bioware goes the Ark route in explaining how humans got to Andromeda then the events in Andromeda could take place just a few years or decades after the end of the Reapers. 

 

Science suggests it would take a hell of a long time to get to Andromeda. I have not taken the time to learn any of Mass Effect's pseudoscience but it is unrealistic to assume that the game would take place only a few years after ME3.

 

Unless, of course, you understand Mass Effect's replacement for science and can explain to me why it would only take a couple years.

[WittyUsername]

There are probably going to be some general references to Shepard. If the journey to Andromeda began in ME3 then I guess they may remember Shepard leading the fight against the Reapers. I don't think choices will be imported.

 

Also none of these issues are complex. They can easily be retconned or solved in Andromeda. Quarians and Geth have nothing to fight for. Krogans can be cured/infected of/with the Genophage anytime the Salarians want to. Whether you killed the Rachni queen or not, didn't stop them from coming back.

The issue with Quarian and Geth is actually on the verge of genocide of one or the other race. So that is a complex issue. If your Shepard chose Geth, then there should be no Quarians, or very few at most.

 

The Krogan issue doesn't just include if they got the cure or not, it includes the current leadership.The Krogan under Wreav would probably be very unlikely to play ball with the Andromeda expendition, or be far more demanding. Or even try to rival you. Under Wrex, they're a lot more diplomatic, if edgy. The cure itself, I'm not understanding. Whether or not the Salarians can play yo-yo with their genetics anytime isn't what I was talking about, it's the whole current situation. There would likely be a lot less Krogan recruits for expendition to the Andromeda if the genophage is still in effect, they don't have the numbers.

 

The Rachni queen does have the Rachni return whether or not you kill them, true. But the difference lies in how the False Queen is far more insane and would probably drive her species to extinction.

 

As far as retconning, well, that doesn't sound very pleasant to me.

[exboomer]

There are probably going to be some general references to Shepard. If the journey to Andromeda began in ME3 then I guess they may remember Shepard leading the fight against the Reapers. I don't think choices will be imported.

 

Also none of these issues are complex. They can easily be retconned or solved in Andromeda. Quarians and Geth have nothing to fight for. Krogans can be cured/infected of/with the Genophage anytime the Salarians want to. Whether you killed the Rachni queen or not, didn't stop them from coming back.

 

 

 

Science suggests it would take a hell of a long time to get to Andromeda. I have not taken the time to learn any of Mass Effect's pseudoscience but it is unrealistic to assume that the game would take place only a few years after ME3.

 

Unless, of course, you understand Mass Effect's replacement for science and can explain to me why it would only take a couple years.

If you have seen the movie Interstellar then you could see how the Ark could make it to Andromeda within a few years/decades of the Reaper attack. 

[Cyonan]

Well the whole point of going to Andromeda is to avoid having to acknowledge the choices from the previous games. I think it's a good thing in a series like this to get a clean slate every once in a while.

 

Plus I'm still of the opinion that the Ark will be leaving prior to any major choices in Mass Effect 3, probably as a safeguard against us possibly losing the Reaper war. The Krogan will get a new cure in-route if needed, which would solve any issues with not getting many Krogan recruits for the mission since they reproduce quickly and live for a long time.

[N7Jamaican]

Um, no.  Why have save import files from ME1-3 to ME:A?  I'd rather they spend the time and resources improving something else.  

[Indigenous]

If you have seen the movie Interstellar then you could see how the Ark could make it to Andromeda within a few years/decades of the Reaper attack. 

Are you suggesting a wormhole? Haven't watched interstellar but I have heard of it. Why would it take decades for them to reach a wormhole? Are you suggesting that the journey through the wormhole would take decades?

 

Doesn't matter, the wormhole thing is just an idea. Bioware can make anything up if they want Andromeda to take place just a few years after ME3.

[Indigenous]

The issue with Quarian and Geth is actually on the verge of genocide of one or the other race. So that is a complex issue. If your Shepard chose Geth, then there should be no Quarians, or very few at most.

 

The Krogan issue doesn't just include if they got the cure or not, it includes the current leadership.The Krogan under Wreav would probably be very unlikely to play ball with the Andromeda expendition, or be far more demanding. Or even try to rival you. Under Wrex, they're a lot more diplomatic, if edgy. The cure itself, I'm not understanding. Whether or not the Salarians can play yo-yo with their genetics anytime isn't what I was talking about, it's the whole current situation. There would likely be a lot less Krogan recruits for expendition to the Andromeda if the genophage is still in effect, they don't have the numbers.

 

The Rachni queen does have the Rachni return whether or not you kill them, true. But the difference lies in how the False Queen is far more insane and would probably drive her species to extinction.

 

As far as retconning, well, that doesn't sound very pleasant to me.

I don't think its that complex if there are Quarian and Geth in Andromeda, and I don't think there will be, then I guess it would be factions of both races that had no interest in the war. Wrex and Wreav are both of clan urdnot. I guess the krogans in andromeda could be from a separate clan that again has no interest in Wrex or Wreav. None of these choices, one person made, really matters in the Mass Effect universe. They can be easily ignored if Bioware wants to.

 

Weren't the Rachni extinct before it was revealed that there were still some alive? Twice if you killed the queen. All I am saying is don't be surprised if more rachni show up, whatever choice you made.

 

It would be nice if all your choices shaped the Mass Effect universe, but at the same time it would be ridiculous.

[DaemionMoadrin]

There will be no imported savegames or an equivalent to Dragon Age Keep. The devs already said so on Twitter.

 

You can pretty much close this thread, it discusses something that's no longer relevant.