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[Guanxii]

Seeing as how multiplayer is cooperative in this series is there any reason why we couldn't have cross platform multiplayer support for all three platforms this time? We all have friends on ps4, xb1 & pc wouldn't it be nice to be able to play with all of your friends without these arcane restrictions needlessly fracturing the player base? I'm convinced that unifying the multiplayer community is the next big step forward for this series - it would strengthen the core player base and improve longevity which would lead to more evergreen sales/store transactions - win win.

 

Irrespective of multiplatform cross play could we also have a platform independent manifest so that we can take our progress with us to different platforms in the event of platform switching or just visiting friends on other platforms without having to start from scratch?  

[Sanunes]

This will only work if Microsoft and Sony allow it and frankly I don't see that change happening anytime soon. I could see one of them allowing access to the PC market, but I just can't see Microsoft and Sony cross platform support happening right now.  Its why it hasn't happened yet and the only cases I know of are between the Xbox and PC or the Playstation and the PC.

[Guanxii]

This will only work if Microsoft and Sony allow it and frankly I don't see that change happening anytime soon. I could see one of them allowing access to the PC market, but I just can't see Microsoft and Sony cross platform support happening right now.  Its why it hasn't happened yet and the only cases I know of are between the Xbox and PC or the Playstation and the PC.

If both consoles had cross-play with the PC the PC version would be cross platform with the only restriction being that pc gamers couldn't form a lobby with both sets of console players... would  be a nice first step.

 

It doesn't impact either platform holder's revenue really and any security concerns would surely be directed at pc rather than the other console. Perhaps aside from a load of technical reasons on the platform holder's end licensing agreements forbid it.

[SojournerN7]

I would like to see this, so there would be a larger connected MEA MP community that can run missions together. I'm not sure if there would be anything between Sony and Microsoft, but It sounds that at least between XboxOne and Windows 10, some developers are working on cross platform titles such as Fable Legends.

[SolNebula]

Maybe Microsoft will allow that between PC and Xbox players....but I'm not sure about Sony. Doubt will happen soon.

[WittyUsername]

Me and a friend were moping a few weeks ago at the fact that Elder Scrolls online didn't do cross platform. He has a PS4 and I have a PC, he wanted me to play with him at some point if we both get it.

 

Is there any reason why this restriction is in place? Is there some kind of legal contract in play here and why does it matter? I dunno the business side of something like this.

[Chealec]

Last time MS tried it console scurbs got rekt people on consoles just weren't able to keep up with the greater precision afforded by mouse aiming on PC; though they do seem to be working towards a unified PC/Xbox online gaming platform slowly.

[ArabianIGoggles]

That would be absolutely amazing if they allowed this.  I'm sure Microsoft would screw it up somehow though, like sticking games for windows live in.

[Sylvius the Mad]

MS allowed XB/PC play in the original Halo.

I like the idea.

[Beerfish]

Not holding my breath but that would really be great if possible.  Lots of ps people I like on these forums I'd like to play matches with.  (Pcers too for hat matter)

[BioWareAre****s]

It would be great, but you're basically asking Sony/Microsoft to make it easier for your friend not to buy a PS4/XBone/PC. They have absolutely nothing to gain from this, but they do potentially have something to lose because lack of x-platform MP makes it more appealing to purchase multiple platforms.

[ArabianIGoggles]

MS allowed XB/PC play in the original Halo.

I like the idea.

That was Halo 2, not 1.  And it was only allowed for a short time, as it wasn't remotely fair for the xbox players.

[N7Jamaican]

I'll play MP on PC with my buddies, considering my PC will support a better experience than my XB1.  BUT if they could make it where XB1 and PC can play together, I'll play on XB1.

[Quarian Master Race]

Last time MS tried it console scurbs got rekt people on consoles just weren't able to keep up with the greater precision afforded by mouse aiming on PC; though they do seem to be working towards a unified PC/Xbox online gaming platform slowly.

 

 

That was Halo 2, not 1.  And it was only allowed for a short time, as it wasn't remotely fair for the xbox players.

That wouldn't matter much if the game were similar to ME3MP because it isn't at all competitive like Halo 2 was designed to be from the ground up.

The primary stumbling block to such a plan is that Sony ( and possibly though not likely Nintendo, considering that they got an ME3 port as well) would essentially be allowing the Microsoft versions a competitive marketing advantage. I could only see something like this possibly happening if the game were an XBox/ Microsoft OS exclusive title, but EA would lose a ton of sales like that because PS4 is right now killing the Xbox One in terms of sales by more than a 2:1 ratio, and PC gaming is comparatively a much smaller market than either. Sales gained by the feature wouldn't come close to lost revenue.

[Sylvius the Mad]

That was Halo 2, not 1. And it was only allowed for a short time, as it wasn't remotely fair for the xbox players.

I like the idea because of how it reveals the fundamental deficiencies of controllers.

Consoles should support KBM.

[ArabianIGoggles]

I like the idea because of how it reveals the fundamental deficiencies of controllers.

Consoles should support KBM.

Agreed.  Turning feels so slow and clunky on my xb1.  

[Chealec]

That wouldn't matter much if the game were similar to ME3MP because it isn't at all competitive like Halo 2 was designed to be from the ground up.

 

You're on the MP forums quite regularly, you know how much PC BSN-Master-Race like to whinge about PuGs? ... Now imagine how much PC BSN-Mustard-Race would whinge about bad PuGs that were ALSO hampered by being on XBone?

 

 

 

... actually, it might be worth making it work just for that.

[Quarian Master Race]

You're on the MP forums quite regularly, you know how much PC BSN-Master-Race like to whinge about PuGs? ... Now imagine how much PC BSN-Mustard-Race would whinge about bad PuGs that were ALSO hampered by being on XBone?

 

 

 

... actually, it might be worth making it work just for that.

It would hardly be a cause for concern. There are people who can solo plat in 20 minutes on consoles just as there are PC players who have trouble extracting on silver. Most players on either are going to tend toward being not nearly as good at the game as the typical forumite.

The only crying would be about KB-M advantage when butthurt console players are consistently outscored by PC players of similar skill level, as well as the typical "conslows are holding PC gaming back" when the game is locked at 60 fps on both versions or something.

Not that any of this matters. There are 22 million PS4's out there and counting. They aren't ignoring that huge chunk of the market anymore unless Microsoft buys them out somehow.

[tatann]

I'm ok with it if they add an option to only accept PC players in the lobby, or at least show if a player is on console so we can kick him from the lobby

[Valkyrja]

Didn't SquareEnix try this for their Final Fantasy MMO and Microsoft told them no?

[LinksOcarina]

Not going to happen. Not only will sony and Microsoft not allow it between platforms for consoles, but you'll be lucky to see PC/Xbox on the same platform now a days. 

[Nethershadow]

The Shadowrun shooter was cross platform and console players got rekt. 

 

Now even if this one is coop, it will lessen it a bit but won't get rid of it just because players aren't opposed.

 

Then you would get platform specific people that are upset at the differences wanting to have their own score boards via platform which destroys this whole concept.

 

Lastly, I suspect that when making it cross platform it will take out a lot of the assisting and mechanics that are put in specifically for platforms, well more so for console scrubs, which will only widen the gap problems. That would be my prediction.

[Sully13]

[Guanxii]

It's possible that cross-platform matches could require a gamepad or it could be an advanced matchmaking option. Perhaps matches would be gamepad or m+kb only, though honestly on platinum I don't think console users would mind being carried a little.

Huge resolutions and 60fps with m+kb might sound insurmountable but I honesty believe I could quick scope mouse and keyboard users into the dirt with the ridiculous aim assist on gamepad - especially with energy drain to do the aiming for me. Not all PC users can handle higher difficulties even with such advantages and in the same lobby Platinum console users would have better gear. Skill is the great leveller.

However some classes like N7 shadow or Melee based kroguard require virtually no skill and would be as good if not better with a gamepad with auto lock on biotic charge/melee. Accuracy doesn't really matter for caster classes either so I'd argue that there is no real advantage to playing adepts on PC.

Of course who wouldn't love the option of a mouse and keyboard on consoles too?

[Chealec]

It's possible that cross-platform matches could require a gamepad or it could be an advanced matchmaking option. Perhaps matches would be gamepad or m+kb only, though honestly on platinum I don't think console users would mind being carried a little.

Huge resolutions and 60fps with m+kb might sound insurmountable but I honesty believe I could quick scope mouse and keyboard users into the dirt with the ridiculous aim assist on gamepad - especially with energy drain to do the aiming for me. Not all PC users can handle higher difficulties even with such advantages and in the same lobby Platinum console users would have better gear. Skill is the great leveller.

However some classes like N7 shadow or Melee based kroguard require virtually no skill and would be as good if not better with a gamepad with auto lock on biotic charge/melee. Accuracy doesn't really matter for caster classes either so I'd argue that there is no real advantage to playing adepts on PC.

Of course who wouldn't love the option of a mouse and keyboard on consoles too?

 

I'm not buying a gamepad for my PC just to have a worse experience playing MEA:MP thanks

 

However, it's not just the aim-assist or auto-lock-on with biotics or melee (which you also get on PC, not the aim-assist but the lock-on ... unless you're locked onto a Hunter in Krogan heavy melee and it cloaks, cheating scumbags that they are)... on PC you have much faster turning circles, 100+ FPS if your machine/monitor can keep up, obscenely twitchy mouse sensitivity, re-bound keys (medi-gel to a mouse thumb-button for reload cancelling for instance) and on most games a wider field of vision (generally tweakable)... and that's before the modding community gets involved!

 

Yes the biggest advantages of playing on PC are felt when playing as an infil/sniper for instance - but it's not like Adepts don't use their guns and they're just are reliant on being able to consistently headshot as anyone else, especially when using something like the Paladin (ok, Raider not so much).

 

I've got both a PC and a PS (1, 2 and 3 - there's no Gran Turismo for the PS4 yet so...) ... personally I find shooting anything on my PS3 takes longer than it does on PC, you're only talking fractions of a second but that's like the difference between playing a game with <10ms lag or >100ms lag - it's definitely noticeable. Still, I'll take Gran Turismo (with steering wheel, pedals and a racing chair) on the PS3, in front of the big TV and home theatre system over Project Cars ... with a controller (if I bought one) ... in front of my PC monitor (hmmmmm...  I could get a small-factor PC and put that in the living room and wire it up to the TV ... the steering wheel works on both PC and PS ... hmmm, no, the missus would probably kill me ...)

 

 

I suspect Vanguards would be the class it would make least difference on as you're going to spend as much time as possible right up-close and personal where just sticking the gun in the general vicinity of the enemy and pressing fire is going to hit