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[Legendary Hero]

 

"Ghost Riders in The Sky"

 

Probably a reference to a Shepard Reaper that went to the Andromeda Galaxy, you have to fight a giant robotic organic version of your character if your character survives in the end of the third game and you import your save into "Mass Effect: Andromeda"

 

Shepard Reaper to my character: "I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions."

 

Me as a new character in reply to Shepard Reaper: "What?"

 

That's my theory (Lol just kidding) ^^^

 

 

 

But really do you guys have any theories about what "Ghost Riders in the Sky" Could mean in Mass Effect: Andromeda? I think one of the developers said it has significant meaning in the storyline of the game.

[Sully13]

its a refferance to the New frontier and the oldwest.

probably tour crews callsigne.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

[Hellamarian]

It's a nice song.

 

I think people are making too big of a deal about it.

[Sully13]

Needs more flameing skulls. imo

[Malanek]

It is actually worth having a discussion about this because Yanick Roy said, when asked to change the music from the trailer (wtf, who asks to change a trailer?),...

 

Yanick Roy ‏@YanickRRoy
No, sorry, because there are very good reasons for that choice of song for the trailer that should become clear later on.

 

It will have nothing to do with Shepard.

 

From Wikipaedia...

 

The song tells a folk tale of a cowboy who has a vision of red-eyed, steel-hooved cattle thundering across the sky, being chased by the spirits of damned cowboys. One warns him that if he does not change his ways, he will be doomed to join them, forever "trying to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies".

 

There is obviously a moral message to the song with a sense of karma. Presumably this will translate into MEA to be searching for something (remnant technology) with great risks associated with finding it and using it, likely for no good depending on exactly how relevant the song is. It also probably symbolizes the frontier nature of Andromeda and how "we" are the outsiders.

[Sully13]

Yeah but the symbolism may be too obvious. its a but too on the nose.

itl like haveing a certan Blue Oyster cult song as the trailer to ME.3

[Kabooooom]

It is actually worth having a discussion about this because Yanick Roy said, when asked to change the music from the trailer (wtf, who asks to change a trailer?),...

Yanick Roy ‏@YanickRRoy
No, sorry, because there are very good reasons for that choice of song for the trailer that should become clear later on.

It will have nothing to do with Shepard.

From Wikipaedia...

The song tells a folk tale of a cowboy who has a vision of red-eyed, steel-hooved cattle thundering across the sky, being chased by the spirits of damned cowboys. One warns him that if he does not change his ways, he will be doomed to join them, forever "trying to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies".

There is obviously a moral message to the song with a sense of karma. Presumably this will translate into MEA to be searching for something (remnant technology) with great risks associated with finding it and using it, likely for no good depending on exactly how relevant the song is. It also probably symbolizes the frontier nature of Andromeda and how "we" are the outsiders.

This is probably exactly right. It symbolizes chasing after that which is unattainable (the technology of a higher civilization that you did not earn yourself) and how it will condemn you in the end.

The Reapers were different. They handed you tech, but in a VERY specific way. Relays. FTL. The Citadel. That's it. It allowed civilizations of the galaxy to never try to create anything on their own. And the system worked perfectly - the only danger of it involved being lulled into a false sense of security.

But with the Remnant, it will be different. Unknown tech, unknown agenda. Probably not a benevolent agenda. I imagine there will be no greater scheme like the Reapers had, bur merely the dangers and horrors of unleashing technology that you don't understand.

An example of this theme would be the movie Prometheus. I imagine that Andromeda will involve fighting with other species like the Khet over Remnant tech, exploring who and what the Remnant were...

...and then coming face to face with the horrifying realization that the Remnant should never have been awakened.

Predictable. But will probably make a good game.

[Legendary Hero]

It is actually worth having a discussion about this because Yanick Roy said, when asked to change the music from the trailer (wtf, who asks to change a trailer?),...

 

Yanick Roy ‏@YanickRRoy
No, sorry, because there are very good reasons for that choice of song for the trailer that should become clear later on.

 

It will have nothing to do with Shepard.

 

From Wikipaedia...

 

The song tells a folk tale of a cowboy who has a vision of red-eyed, steel-hooved cattle thundering across the sky, being chased by the spirits of damned cowboys. One warns him that if he does not change his ways, he will be doomed to join them, forever "trying to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies".

 

There is obviously a moral message to the song with a sense of karma. Presumably this will translate into MEA to be searching for something (remnant technology) with great risks associated with finding it and using it, likely for no good depending on exactly how relevant the song is. It also probably symbolizes the frontier nature of Andromeda and how "we" are the outsiders.

 

 

 

 

 

"Ghost Riders in The Sky"

 

Probably a reference to a Shepard Reaper that went to the Andromeda Galaxy, you have to fight a giant robotic organic version of your character if your character survives in the end of the third game and you import your save into "Mass Effect: Andromeda"

 

Shepard Reaper to my character: "I'm tired of your disingenuous assertions."

 

Me as a new character in reply to Shepard Reaper: "What?"

It was joking about the Shepard Reaper, that's why I said "(Lol just kidding)"

[Malanek]

This is probably exactly right. It symbolizes chasing after that which is unattainable (the technology of a higher civilization that you did not earn yourself) and how it will condemn you in the end.

The Reapers were different. They handed you tech, but in a VERY specific way. Relays. FTL. The Citadel. That's it. It allowed civilizations of the galaxy to never try to create anything on their own. And the system worked perfectly - the only danger of it involved being lulled into a false sense of security.

But with the Remnant, it will be different. Unknown tech, unknown agenda. Probably not a benevolent agenda. I imagine there will be no greater scheme like the Reapers had, bur merely the dangers and horrors of unleashing technology that you don't understand.

An example of this theme would be the movie Prometheus. I imagine that Andromeda will involve fighting with other species like the Khet over Remnant tech, exploring who and what the Remnant were...

...and then coming face to face with the horrifying realization that the Remnant should never have been awakened.

Predictable. But will probably make a good game.

Hmmmm, I didn't actually consider that we would be "waking" the Remnant up. But Interesting twist.

 

I more thought it would be about the pursuit of the technology could cause us to succumb to whatever it was that wiped the remnant out.

[Hadeedak]

Yeah but the symbolism may be too obvious. its a but too on the nose.

itl like haveing a certan Blue Oyster cult song as the trailer to ME.3

 

Dude, I would have loved that.

 

Of course, I may be a massive song nerd.

[Kabooooom]

Hmmmm, I didn't actually consider that we would be "waking" the Remnant up. But Interesting twist.

I more thought it would be about the pursuit of the technology could cause us to succumb to whatever it was that wiped the remnant out.

My primary reasoning on why that probably wont be the story they choose is twofold: It would be a recycling of the dark energy plot, at least the theme of it, and a long dead race that no longer exists is basically the Protheans 2.0.

Additionally, there will need to be some sort of antagonist species beyond just typical mooks like the Khet probably will be. My guess is, the Remnant will be that antagonist species. And one of the very first leaks described concept art for a hyperadvanced, synthetic looking species that was truly alien in appearance. That was probably an early Remnant concept art, I would guess.

I imagine the story will go like this: The ark probably gets to Andromeda via the discovery of Remnant tech in the Milky Way - be it wormhole tech, whatever doesn't matter. They probably knew of this for years, but did not figure out how to work it until tue Reaper War. Convenient, yes, but probably necessary to link the two stories. The species of the Milky Way then assume that the Remnant were benevolent, and placed this technology in the Milky Way to allow species of the Milky Way a way to safely escape the harvest.

Once in Andromeda, they discover more Remnant ruins, and run into conflict with native species that want the same tech. That will be a major part of the game. But with time, as the main characters learn more about the Remnant, they discover that they have not vanished...but have been slumbering, awaiting.

Would be my guess. Cliche Sci FI story - right up Bioware's alley. Just like moving the setting to Andromeda in the first place, I would find this to be very predictable.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Wasn't it the soundtrack to "Ghost Rider"? You know, the movie?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Wasn't it the soundtrack to "Ghost Rider"? You know, the movie?

The movie had the song in it, but the song came out decades before the character Ghost Rider was first created. 

[WittyUsername]

I never really put much thought in it. I felt it was chosen because it gave that Wild West feel and Johnny Cash is an excellent musician. Not really much of a fan of it for Mass Effect, but he is an terrific artist.

 

Dunno how I feel about Space Westerners.

[ffejita]

It is actually worth having a discussion about this because Yanick Roy said, when asked to change the music from the trailer (wtf, who asks to change a trailer?),...

 

Yanick Roy ‏@YanickRRoy
No, sorry, because there are very good reasons for that choice of song for the trailer that should become clear later on.

 

It will have nothing to do with Shepard.

 

From Wikipaedia...

 

The song tells a folk tale of a cowboy who has a vision of red-eyed, steel-hooved cattle thundering across the sky, being chased by the spirits of damned cowboys. One warns him that if he does not change his ways, he will be doomed to join them, forever "trying to catch the Devil's herd across these endless skies".

 

There is obviously a moral message to the song with a sense of karma. Presumably this will translate into MEA to be searching for something (remnant technology) with great risks associated with finding it and using it, likely for no good depending on exactly how relevant the song is. It also probably symbolizes the frontier nature of Andromeda and how "we" are the outsiders.

 

What are the "steel-hooved cattle" that we are chasing we chasing? Remnant tech.

 

Who are the "damned cowboys" already chasing them? The Khet. 

[Malanek]

What are the "steel-hooved cattle" that we are chasing we chasing? Remnant tech.

 

Who are the "damned cowboys" already chasing them? The Khet. 

I was surmising that the steel hooved cattle, the thing that is being chased, is some sort of technology. I thought The damned cowboys  were actually the Remnant who were previously chasing it but got wiped out by it.

[Malanek]

My primary reasoning on why that probably wont be the story they choose is twofold: It would be a recycling of the dark energy plot, at least the theme of it, and a long dead race that no longer exists is basically the Protheans 2.0.

Additionally, there will need to be some sort of antagonist species beyond just typical mooks like the Khet probably will be. My guess is, the Remnant will be that antagonist species. And one of the very first leaks described concept art for a hyperadvanced, synthetic looking species that was truly alien in appearance. That was probably an early Remnant concept art, I would guess.

I imagine the story will go like this: The ark probably gets to Andromeda via the discovery of Remnant tech in the Milky Way - be it wormhole tech, whatever doesn't matter. They probably knew of this for years, but did not figure out how to work it until tue Reaper War. Convenient, yes, but probably necessary to link the two stories. The species of the Milky Way then assume that the Remnant were benevolent, and placed this technology in the Milky Way to allow species of the Milky Way a way to safely escape the harvest.

Once in Andromeda, they discover more Remnant ruins, and run into conflict with native species that want the same tech. That will be a major part of the game. But with time, as the main characters learn more about the Remnant, they discover that they have not vanished...but have been slumbering, awaiting.

Would be my guess. Cliche Sci FI story - right up Bioware's alley. Just like moving the setting to Andromeda in the first place, I would find this to be very predictable.

I don't really think what I was describing was the Dark Energy plot. That is more akin to global warming, while I was thinking of something much more instantaneously dangerous and not understood like Terminator or if you are familiar with Ursala Le Guin, A wizard of Earthsea.

 

I think what you describe is interesting and perfectly logical, but I would much rather the Remnant didn't have anything to do with getting out of the milky way. I want to keep the galaxies completely separate so there is no chance of things clashing in the future. Of course what you describe doesn't require that to happen, we would just discover the Remnant in Andromeda.

[D.C.]

Wasn't it the soundtrack to "Ghost Rider"? You know, the movie?

it was also in blues brothers 2000 so the khet are on a mission from god lmao jk

[LordSwagley]

Hmmm... interesting theories. Is it possible the developer meant it as a joke (no offence intended, I just have not seen the original post and the context) not to be taken seriously? Whatever the case, I just hope the games soundtrack does not end up as some sort of "techno-western" hybrid.

The question of WHY we need the remnants technology comes to mind. Far as I can tell, we are part of a colonization fleet fleeing the Reaper onslaught. Why do we need the Remnant tech? To defeat the Khet? Perhaps Andromeda lacks adequate planets to colonize and we need Remnant tech to return home? Are we trying to stop the Khet from reawakening evil? Or do we simply want enough power to crush the locals and colonize the Galaxy for ourselves? Or do we need Remnant technology to travel back in time with the information and technology to defeat the reapers? Only time will tell...

[Sully13]

Well Lance Henriksen is god.

 

Also

 

[D.C.]

That's basically the plot of ME2... getting the band together... on a mission from god.

Shepard: The band? The band.

The Illusive man: DO YOU SEE THE LIGHT?

Shepard: THE BAND!

The Illusive Man: DO YOU SEE THE LIGHT?

Garrus: What light?

The Illusive Man: HAVE YOU SEEEEN THE LIGHT?

Shepard: YES! YES! JESUS H. TAP-DANCING CHRIST... I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!

 

LMAO now when i watch that movie that's gonna play through my head lol

[Sully13]