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[Feybrad]

I am pretty sure ME:A is going to be the first of a series of games, similiar to DA:I. So this time around I hope the writers plan out the story in advance to avoid retcons and other unpleasant changes.

 

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[Quarian Master Race]

I am pretty sure ME:A is going to be the first of a series of games, similiar to DA:I. So this time around I hope the writers plan out the story in advance to avoid retcons and other unpleasant changes.

Stop trying to bring the thread back on topic.

Seriously though, where did conventional victory guy go? Did we bludgeon him to death with math and logic, or is he trying to find the fruit of the clue tree in the hope it will make his argument less terrible?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Stop trying to bring the thread back on topic.

 

Never!

 

Seriously though, where did conventional victory guy go? Did we bludgeon him to death with math and logic, or is he trying to find the fruit of the clue tree in the hope it will make his argument less terrible?

 

Well, it was offtopic so I don't mind that he didn't respond.

[Tim van Beek]

 

 

 Just this time, no Kai Leng.

Kai Leng was designed to ensure that everybody and his cat shake their fists/claws at him the moment he appears on the screen. He is a comic book villain (not just literally). At least he isn't ugly. I love it how you can tell the good guys from the bad guys in most action/crime television series and movies from the last century most of the time simply by good looking = good, bad looking  = bad. Just like in (old) Bond movies, the audience gets a fixed reference frame that shows the evil and the good side. If we loose the frame, what do we get for a Bond movie?

 

The villain is able to build a massive organization that is highly succesful, his followers will fight for him to the death any day. He surely is an intelligent, sophisticated, engaging and persuasive personality who is able to easily convince others to help him achieve his goals. Bond is a loner, a brutal killer and sociopath that ruthlessly destroys everything in his way, pursuing his twisted understanding of what his "mission" is. Without the moral reference frame that is at the bottom of the formula of the franchise, the audience may actually side with the villain, at least in the beginning.   

 

I would really like to encounter a character like the "more realistic"  Bond villain (he does not need to be the only "villain" of the story). You start being convinced that he is a good guy, you help each other. As his true nature is revealed over the time, will there be a moment where you switch sides? When? Will you walk away or outright oppose him? 

 

TIM (please all: use upper case letters when you refer to the character by acronym  ) could have been that (actually he came quite close in ME2 IMHO), if Cerberus had started out as a science and black ops special unit of the alliance when you first encountered them. Then, as the situation becomes more and more desparate, TIM and Cerberus try more and more ruthless measures to survive. 

 

Seriously: If humanity faced extinction by a hopelessy superior and ruthless enemy, and you had to do some scientific, if horrible, experiments on some humans, against their will, in the hope of finding the only weapon that could save humanity as a whole, wouldn't you do it?

 

I think history shows that it takes a far lesser threat to push reasonable people over the edge...

 

ME3 of course did not leave it to the audience (and Shepard) to make up their minds about Cerberus and TIM.