That's nothing more than legend and myth.
One wonders if the lyrium gave the Guardian telepathic abilities so he could learn the entire lives of the party in seconds.
Perhaps, but the Guardian is not a myth, and I doubt he was a man with some religious delusion because he kept the whole cult of reavers away from the Urn for years, furthermore, there are Lyrium veins on the whole mountain, if it was the responsible, every Reaver slain by the HOF would have back to life.
A good point. If it's the lyrium giving the ashes special abilities, why can't we just take a loose stone from the wall and drop it on Eamon's head?
Why only the ashes?
Kirkwall's a wretched hive, anyway. Let the city burn. Besides, Anders is insane. Why wouldn't you kill him?
One wonders if the lyrium gave the Guardian telepathic abilities so he could learn the entire lives of the party in seconds.
That's nothing more than legend and myth.
The Guardian knew Andraste personally.
Andraste died in Tevinter.
Someone had to have carried her ashes to Ferelden.
Everything points towards the Guardian being Havard. The only evidence against it is how Havard is one of the ghosts (?) asking riddles.
And if he was to be believed?
He lived from the days of Andraste, knew the woman even.
Lyrium do that?
Even if lyrium did that, did the Guardian just happen to find the one mountain in Thedas that grants immortality and mind reading abilities?
1-I don't think the Guardian was Havard, but I respect every guardians' task, immortality is one thing, but being binded to a place for the eternity at the cost of every personal goal is something to admire.The Guardian knew Andraste personally.
Andraste died in Tevinter.
Someone had to have carried her ashes to Ferelden.
Everything points towards the Guardian being Havard. The only evidence against it is how Havard is one of the ghosts (?) asking riddles.
Even if lyrium did that, did the Guardian just happen to find the one mountain in Thedas that grants immortality and mind reading abilities?
One wonders if the lyrium gave the Guardian telepathic abilities so he could learn the entire lives of the party in seconds.
Funnily spirits and demons have exactly the same ability and morrigan even calls him spirit.
2-The mountain had nothing of special at all ( I'm still wondering why Corypheus thought was good idea begin his mess there, I would rather pick the Brecilian Forest and a random dude who no one would miss), except being the tallest place near to Andraste's birthplace, the Guardian's immortality came either from an enchantment placed by Andraste or from the Ashes themselves
Wrong. It had some of the purest, strongest lyrium in possibly all of Thedas. Here's a quote of Oghren's, a dwarf who still has his lyrium senses.
"The lyrium veins in these walls are richer and purer than any I've sensed in a while. It's doing things... changing this temple and everything in it."
The entire mountain was effected by the lyrium, to the point of actually altering the very environment. This is also why the explosion that caused the breach was so destructive, well beyond what Solas anticipated. Lyrium is EXTREMELY volatile, if you recall. It can explode for basically no reason sometimes. So what happens when you take an explosion and add it to a mountain that is so lined with pure lyrium that the temple itself is being effected? What might have been a small explosion turned into a massive one because it caused a chain reaction with all the lyrium in the mountain blowing up along with it. This is also why red lyrium pops up there so easily afterward, the lyrium that actually managed to survive the explosion was very easy to corrupt. Solas didn't realize the Conclave was sitting on top of the largest lyrium bomb in Thedas, one that an explosion of moderate size could cause to blow up.
Se we should expect all those cultists the Warden killed, and the High Dragon, to have come back to life. Cool.
Se we should expect all those cultists the Warden killed, and the High Dragon, to have come back to life. Cool.
Lyrium is zombie powder after all.
that's a old as dirt referenceLyrium is zombie powder after all.
that's a old as dirt reference
but it's so old (if I'm thinking correctly on the right one of course)I'm older then most here.
but it's so old (if I'm thinking correctly on the right one of course)
Funnily spirits and demons have exactly the same ability and morrigan even calls him spirit.
Yeah, the Guardian (and the Ghosts) always came across to me as being Spirits. The Guardian is probably a Spirit (possibly Faith), perhaps drawn by the real Guardian to take over from him at some point and ultimately ended up emulating him, much in the same manner as Cole or the one in JOH, both of whom were drawn to people in need and started to think they were them after a while.
The Ghosts on the other hand seem to be bound spirits, which would account for how they turn into shades when you get the answers wrong.
(Did I just agree with TKS on something... I feel like I've just entered the Twilight Zone and any minute Rod Serling will begin narrating behind me?)
I always thought Coryfish chose the Temple of Sacred Ashes, not only due to the lyrium deposits running throughout it, but also due to the high concentration of people (and Mages) that were gathered at the summit. I always figured his sacrifice of the Divine was the first blood spilt of what ended up being a pretty epic blood sacrifice, with each life subsequently taken as the explosion expanded, adding fuel to the power of the original spell. Otherwise, as is stated, he could probably just gather up a good number of venatori, slaves and lyrium, find a quiet little spot and rip apart reality. Of course, i also think he may have had a flare for the dramatic, like any villain.
Yeah, the Guardian (and the Ghosts) always came across to me as being Spirits.
Of course they did.
Of course they did.
Because them being immortal, mind-reading and semi-translucent didn't make that totally obvious? I mean, we meet someone from our origin story in the Gauntlet, who is clearly manifested from our own mind and thoughts... yeah, that's screamed Spirit to me from the first time I played Origins.
Just because you missed it Warder...
Because them being immortal, mind-reading and semi-translucent didn't make that totally obvious?
No.
Funnily spirits and demons have exactly the same ability and morrigan even calls him spirit.
Morrigan is a moron i don't care of what she has to say,75% of times she is wrong ah like the well of sorrow and her mothers intentions.
and yep there is no confirmation of what the guardian was/is
Morrigan is a moron i don't care of what she has to say,75% of times she is wrong ah like the well of sorrow and her mothers intentions.
and yep there is no confirmation of what the guardian was/is
That somone is wrong on something doesn't make them wrong on another ,pretty much she was one of two companions that knew they were traped in the fade (in fact only one that truly knew what is going on) and was smart enough to not bargin with demon when faced one.
Also i never said it was confirmed ,only that we have enough things that make spirit scenario plausible.
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