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[Gamergirl32]

Having a diversity in NPC characters could add depth to the background and over all game play. Such as half-blooded characters, there are not a lot of them. Fenyriel is basically the only half-elf ever seen in the game. There has got to be more, even half-dwarves, half-qunari and mixes between those like half-elf half-dwarf. More height differences that aren't race related would be cool. When creating the player character, there could be a range in what height they could be. 7ft tall qunari, 3ft tall dwarves, things like that would add interesting customization and dialogue. A 5'4 human the same size as Varric would get teased a good deal. A 7ft qunari would be great at intimidation.  

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Alistair is an elf-blood. His father is King Maric, a human, and his mother is Grand Enchanter Fiona, an elf. 

Sandal is suspected of being half dwarf, half elf. 

There are a few other elf-blooded NPCS. 

[Andraste_Reborn]

A half-dwarf, half-elf would look like a dwarf, just like Alistair and Michel de Chevin look human. Feynriel looks a little elfy, but it's just because he favours his mother's side of his family in colouring and the fineness of his features. We have no idea if the qunari can interbreed with any of the other races. I suspect not.

 

Height sliders for the player character would be nice, but having eight possible different PC heights already makes cut scenes difficult to animate.

[The Lone Shadow]

I would say we need more dwarf characters, besides Awakening we usually have only one dwarf companion. I would like to see a dwarf from Kal-Sharok. I would also like to see a seer from Rivain, a mortalitasi, a city elf that actually lived in an alienage and was not raised by humans, a human from the  Andersfels, a human who was raised by the dalish, and an actual Tal-Vashoth.

 

[Dracon525]

That guy who gives you the stealing quests in Denerim was a halfy.

[coldflame]

 

Sandal is suspected of being half dwarf, half elf. 

 

 

No, Sandal is the Maker.

[caradoc2000]

Scout Harding is a quarter-Krogan.

[nightscrawl]

When creating the player character, there could be a range in what height they could be. 7ft tall qunari, 3ft tall dwarves, things like that would add interesting customization and dialogue.

Bioware seems to like using their fixed body models in the DA games. Unless they change engines for the next game or decide to really switch it up I doubt we are going to see any sort of body customization as you describe.

[Yaroub]

Thedas isn't social justice utopia, stop trying to make it so, Humans and Elves hate each other, and why would blasted horns wants to breed with another race, they seem too proud for that, you play as the protagonist and he acts to your will, people of Thedas on the other hand don't, and from the few examples we have half-blooded don't look that special, be them human/elf or human/dwarf.

I want to see more racial tension, the filth that is elf must be scourged from existence    

[Gamergirl32]

I think Murphy's Law can be applied here a bit, as in anything that can happen will happen. So, yeah, Qunari breading with a non-Qunari might not be genetically possible, but if it is, it can happen, somewhere, at sometime. It's not really about social justice, I want it because it would add so much more depth to the dragon age world. Adding more character diversity would just be cool to see in and of itself. Like seeing a female Krogan and Turian. 

[Panda]

Thedas isn't social justice utopia, stop trying to make it so, Humans and Elves hate each other, and why would blasted horns wants to breed with another race, they seem too proud for that, you play as the protagonist and he acts to your will, people of Thedas on the other hand don't, and from the few examples we have half-blooded don't look that special, be them human/elf or human/dwarf.

I want to see more racial tension, the filth that is elf must be scourged from existence    

 

Having interracial characters in the game is not so tied up with social justice.. And we already know that there is some around, mostly elf/human though since dwarves mostly live on their own below surface (or are on their own in guilds) and qunari are on their own quite much too.

[SharpWalkers]

Well, considering Kieran could be half-elf or half-dwarf, it obviously they're around. However, there's nothing to indicate, so far (I think), that they look any different than a full-blooded dwaf, elf or human. So for all we know we've met dozens, it's just not expanded upon - you know, who walks up to someone and says, "I'm half this and that.. just in case you wondered."

[Donk]

Thedas isn't social justice utopia, stop trying to make it so, Humans and Elves hate each other, and why would blasted horns wants to breed with another race, they seem too proud for that, you play as the protagonist and he acts to your will, people of Thedas on the other hand don't, and from the few examples we have half-blooded don't look that special, be them human/elf or human/dwarf.
I want to see more racial tension, the filth that is elf must be scourged from existence

You know I am really getting sick of this "SJW" bullshit label being thrown around loosely.

Different races breed all the time. It has nothing to do with a moral agenda and all the more to do with the laws of attraction.

And how is there not racial tension? If there weren't, you wouldn't see the city elves being locked away in alienages living off the bones of their arses and treated like ****. You wouldnt have the other Dalish elves hidden away living their own lifestyle, rejecting the human ideal. You also wouldn't have the tension between Qunari/Tevinter. Then there is Tevinter/elves. Dwarves may not cop it but I'm pretty sure the surfacer/lyrium smuggler is frowned upon by humans and definitely frowned upon within their own race.

Like real life, the game includes both sides of the coin.

But judging by your post you're only seeing what you want to see.

I find it ironic that the very same people who whinge about political issues in games and "agendas" are often the only ones who actually perceive as such and don't take into account storytelling.

[Yaroub]

 

You know I am really getting sick of this "SJW" bullshit label being thrown around loosely.

Different races breed all the time. It has nothing to do with a moral agenda and all the more to do with the laws of attraction.



But judging by your post you're only seeing what you want to see.

I find it ironic that the very same people who whinge about political issues in games and "agendas" are often the only ones who actually perceive as such and don't take into account storytelling.

 

 

Social Justice Warrior. A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation. A social justice warrior, or SJW, does not necessarily strongly believe all that they say, or even care about the groups they are fighting on behalf of. They typically repeat points from whoever is the most popular blogger or commenter of the moment, hoping that they will "get SJ points" and become popular in return. They are very sure to adopt stances that are "correct" in their social circle.

The SJW's favorite activity of all is to dogpile. Their favorite websites to frequent are Livejournal and Tumblr. They do not have relevant favorite real-world places, because SJWs are primarily civil rights activists only online.

Good reading, now i know what sjws are, thank you sincerely for the education.

 

Sounds like Yanks problems to me, am no Yank, you didn't have to burst in rage about it, i meant it in the most Innocent way, sorry that you didn't interpret it that way, thought my post was a bit humorous (that's what those      were about), i have to work harder i guess to deliver my intentions more accurately.

Not aiming to get into a debate or offend someone personally or his views unless they offend me(i have my personal political agenda but am not debating them on bioware forums), except if it coming to the subject of the returning of the warden, then i'll strike with full strength(I'll marry Morrigan and have a dozen kids with her),as once the great "Ron Burgundy" said 

 

 

I know that, one day, Morrigan and I are gonna get married on top of a mountain. And there's going to be flutes playing and trombones and flowers and garlands of fresh herbs. And we will dance till the sun rises. And then our children will form a family band. And we will tour the countryside, and you won't be invited!

 

 

 

 

And how is there not racial tension? If there weren't, you wouldn't see the city elves being locked away in alienages living off the bones of their arses and treated like ****. You wouldnt have the other Dalish elves hidden away living their own lifestyle, rejecting the human ideal. You also wouldn't have the tension between Qunari/Tevinter. Then there is Tevinter/elves. Dwarves may not cop it but I'm pretty sure the surfacer/lyrium smuggler is frowned upon by humans and definitely frowned upon within their own race.
Like real life, the game includes both sides of the coin.

 

And, it's the lore and i know it well, am aiming at more dark themed game for the next sequel, am not gonna say the magical word "make it more like TW3"

Make it more like DA:O, would be sufficient for me, i want more medieval feeling in the game that's all. Cheers

[Yaroub]

I think Murphy's Law can be applied here a bit, as in anything that can happen will happen. So, yeah, Qunari breading with a non-Qunari might not be genetically possible, but if it is, it can happen, somewhere, at sometime. It's not really about social justice, I want it because it would add so much more depth to the dragon age world. Adding more character diversity would just be cool to see in and of itself. Like seeing a female Krogan and Turian. 

 

Having interracial characters in the game is not so tied up with social justice.. And we already know that there is some around, mostly elf/human though since dwarves mostly live on their own below surface (or are on their own in guilds) and qunari are on their own quite much too.

Social justice, not social justice, have it your way

[nightscrawl]

Well given that there is at least one Qunari male (The Iron Bull) who can have a sexual relationship with a female human, elf, dwarf, or other Qunari, I'm going to say that -- assuming that the races are genetically compatible -- there are some mixed people running around with a Tal-Vashoth or Vashoth parent. The same applies to the other racial combinations, which includes human/elf, human/dwarf, and dwarf/elf. People have sex and accidental babies are frequently a result.

[Donk]

 

 

Good reading, now i know what sjws are, thank you sincerely for the education.

 

Sounds like Yanks problems to me, am no Yank, you didn't have to burst in rage about it, i meant it in the most Innocent way, sorry that you didn't interpret it that way, thought my post was a bit humorous (that's what those      were about), i have to work harder i guess to deliver my intentions more accurately.

Not aiming to get into a debate or offend someone personally or his views unless they offend me(i have my personal political agenda but am not debating them on bioware forums), except if it coming to the subject of the returning of the warden, then i'll strike with full strength(I'll marry Morrigan and have a dozen kids with her),as once the great "Ron Burgundy" said 

 

 

 

 

And, it's the lore and i know it well, am aiming at more dark themed game for the next sequel, am not gonna say the magical word "make it more like TW3"

Make it more like DA:O, would be sufficient for me, i want more medieval feeling in the game that's all. Cheers

 

 

Can't tell if sarcastic or not (in relation to that little snippet on the definition of SJW) but that just tells me you didn't know the full definition of what it means..

 

At least you looked it up, so I'll give you that. (Provided you're not sarcastic).

 

If you don't wish to engage in political issues I would suggest dropping mention of SJWs.

 

My issue is to do with mixups: myself, and others have been accused of being SJWs just because we stand up for, or defend certain issues that the "SJW" stereotype whinges about. And I agree, a lot of it is attention seeking and bullshit, making issues out of what isn't there. Many of these issues stem from what happens in BioWare games (which is ironic considering they do their best to please a diverse group) and is just that -- bullshit.

 

I apologize for my tone if you weren't serious.

[Yaroub]

Can't tell if sarcastic or not (in relation to that little snippet on the definition of SJW) but that just tells me you didn't know the full definition of what it means..

is it sarcasm you're accusing me of or lying? i can never tell.

 

Don't know half of these now-ubiquitous semi-words, nor this sjw one not the full definition nor the semi definition, saw it before but didn't investigate further, yet i checked when you mentioned them, and i have to say what a lovely group they seem, managed to bother a lot of folks with bigotry, but a delightful  group nonetheless.

Still, don't know why you brought them to the Equation, must be the "social justice utopia" , it was more about Greek philosophy than those folks, that's what i learnt in the philosophy book at school at least, and the book didn't mention those "sjws" , bad educational system, must be.

 

I can really now see the list of accusations against me, i was confused at first, but now it's clear, should i announce them or give you the honor? cannot wait- so excited-  , hope i manage to list them in the correct order.

A male, A straight male, A straight homophobic male, A straight homophobic capitalist male, A straight homophobic capitalist imperialist white male? meh, never hurt to add more lol, And WoW sums me up pretty much, don't you think? (am really a nice guy though (at least that what i've been told)added the capitalist and imperialist because i read on reddit that they share communist ideas)

 

 

 

 

At least you looked it up, so I'll give you that. (Provided you're not sarcastic).

 

Not one to turn away knowledge when knowledge is presented (they must be quite famous that you're insisting on the sarcastic part, well the past year i barely been online, never been in a country more than a month, so i missed a lot of stuff (not that i complain about missing them, sooo...yeah) thanks for the info though.

 

 

If you don't wish to engage in political issues I would suggest dropping mention of SJWs.

 

 

Ahh, but you see i didn't mention them, you maybe were having a frustrating  Friday(it was Friday wasn't it?) and looking for a prey(yes am playing the Innocent card) you know what they say about frustration "Laughter and tears are both responses to frustration and exhaustion. I myself prefer to laugh, since there is less cleaning to do afterwards"

 

I barely had any political agenda in my post, yet you yanks have a way of making everything about politics(not that those "sjws" debating actual politics), the whole lot of your politics is incomprehensible to a one such as myself, you have Donald Trump for presidency lol- the guy is nice though, has a lovely hair- might add Chris Christie and bring that Canadian crack mayor give him citizenship and you're good to go for a race.

Alas am not one to lecture a one such as yourself about politics.

 

 

My issue is to do with mixups: myself, and others have been accused of being SJWs just because we stand up for, or defend certain issues that the "SJW" stereotype whinges about. And I agree, a lot of it is attention seeking and bullshit, making issues out of what isn't there. Many of these issues stem from what happens in BioWare games (which is ironic considering they do their best to please a diverse group) and is just that -- bullshit.

 

I hear you, and am not associating you with them, read that they fight bigotry with bigotry, as fight fire with more fire, still they stand for some just causes "for some", wrong "for some"(am being politician here you see  ), and you or others by standing to the same causes(mostly social politics not the-the politics) you get mixed up.

Didn't check tumblr it's not my type of thing, awful site the whole lot of it(am being Orlesian here) though i steel some gifs from there here and then, but i read few stuff on reddit, here's one

 

SJWs, or Social Justice Warriors, are people who speak out against bigotry and intolerance in society. The reason they're so disliked, is because the rhetoric they use is often just as bigoted and intolerant as what they rally against.

An old southern white racist might say something like "black people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they're not smart enough." whereas a typical SJW might say something to the effect of "white people shouldn't be allowed to vote because they're inherently racist." Compound their hypocritical views with the fact that they tend to be loud and outspoken and you get a group of people who are ripe for getting hate.

Not to be confused with people who support civil liberties, civil rights, and general equality. A civil rights activist might be more inclined to fight for equality using the legal system by petitioning for new laws to protect minority groups or the abolishing unequal laws. A SJW would rather restrict the rights of the people they oppose because oppressing the "oppressors" is "justice" in their views.

SJWs are the same brand of bigot as you're used to, they've just set themselves up on the opposite side of the issue. Using social equality rhetoric to censor others and inhibit social equality.

 

 

 

I apologize for my tone if you weren't serious.

No need, am not one to get offended easily, we're good.

 

What do you mean if you weren't serious, am starting to think all of this was about me bashing on the elves(you're not gonna brand me a racist for that no?). Well, i like us humans, elves being their sworn enemy don't give me a reason to like them(though i don't necessarily hate them... or do i? cannot tell), simple as that i like us, in real world-i think we're great', in fantasy-i think we're fantastical-. Seeing no love for us i bash on others races(except dwarves they're good to me, and they're sort of humans after all), i always play as humans in general, though i played as a khajiit in skyrim once(one does not simply refuse Felidae glory), it seems everyone wants to be a freaking lizard in games, your avatar is it a human or an elf? i can never tell.

Ahh... and scourge the Elves, aye-nay?

 

Still i stand by my original points, no social justice. more blood, more agony, more medieval feeling, more of DA:O settings, Orlais just felt too bright and everyone's calm and happy like nothing's happening, the sun was really bright no kidding.

[Aren]

Loghain is an elf too.