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[Aggrojagg]

That is certainly another way of reading it Zan, so I've removed this, always prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt

[Zantazar]

 

You devalue your position when you say things like this. I don't believe I have ever posted directly at you nor about your content.

 

I don't think he was referring to you.

 

Zan the Man has a Plan

[Geth Supremacy]

As potential customers how do we know that you are not the DAMP equivalent of the guy that sells his own CDs at the train station or the Jehova Witnesses? WE DON'T!

 

I demand a demonstration of your Necromancer and Hunter builds.  What kind of expectations should be held? Barring an AW or Ele will you be coming in first place?  Can you solo a wave if the team is faded?  Will you revive me when I die or tea bag me?  Will this improve my performance in the game as a whole?  Will I be expected to do all the treasure rooms while you clear?  Do you take donations? Do you have any kind of insider knowledge or source code information?

[Aggrojagg]

Will you revive me when I die or tea bag me?  

 

What if you were to be tea bagged and then revived?

[Courtnehh]

As potential customers how do we know that you are not the DAMP equivalent of the guy that sells his own CDs at the train station or the Jehova Witnesses? WE DON'T!

 

I demand a demonstration of your Necromancer and Hunter builds.  What kind of expectations should be held? Barring an AW or Ele will you be coming in first place?  Can you solo a wave if the team is faded?  Will you revive me when I die or tea bag me?  Will this improve my performance in the game as a whole?  Will I be expected to do all the treasure rooms while you clear?  Do you take donations? Do you have any kind of insider knowledge or source code information?

 

What if you were to be tea bagged and then revived?

I will teabag you all into the fade with no exemptions.

[Yallegro]

As potential customers how do we know that you are not the DAMP equivalent of the guy that sells his own CDs at the train station or the Jehova Witnesses? WE DON'T!

 

I demand a demonstration of your Necromancer and Hunter builds.  What kind of expectations should be held? Barring an AW or Ele will you be coming in first place?  Can you solo a wave if the team is faded?  Will you revive me when I die or tea bag me?  Will this improve my performance in the game as a whole?  Will I be expected to do all the treasure rooms while you clear?  Do you take donations? Do you have any kind of insider knowledge or source code information?

These things are expensive

 

You'll just have to look for logical contradictions in what I am saying, if I am being passionate but vague or if it looks like "I want something from you"

[Geth Supremacy]

Unacceptable to be tea bagged and then revived.  Unless I'm tipped.

 

I will teabag you all into the fade with no exemptions.

 

HA!  Easy to say by cheaters who self revive so they cannot be tea bagged.  Necromancers. pffffff........

[Geth Supremacy]

 

You'll just have to look for logical contradictions in what I am saying, if I am being passionate but vague or if it looks like "I want something from you"

 

Refusing to provide a presentation of your product when asked.  Check.

 

I see through you now SCAMMER!

[Silversmurf]

What if you were to be tea bagged and then revived?

I'm not admitting to anything....

[Courtnehh]

Unacceptable to be tea bagged and then revived.  Unless I'm tipped.

 

 

HA!  Easy to say by cheaters who self revive so they cannot be tea bagged.  Necromancers. pffffff........

I make sure to jump off the map whilst down to use up all 3 of my teabagging opportunities, then it's either self revive from the fade or fade. No teabagging for anyone.

[DragonRacer]

Unacceptable to be tea bagged and then revived.  Unless I'm tipped.

 

[Nythrius]

 

As potential customers how do we know that you are not the DAMP equivalent of the guy that sells his own CDs at the train station or the Jehova Witnesses? WE DON'T!

 

I demand a demonstration of your Necromancer and Hunter builds.  What kind of expectations should be held? Barring an AW or Ele will you be coming in first place?  Can you solo a wave if the team is faded?  Will you revive me when I die or tea bag me?  Will this improve my performance in the game as a whole?  Will I be expected to do all the treasure rooms while you clear?  Do you take donations? Do you have any kind of insider knowledge or source code information?

 

 

While your questions are valid one that deserve answers, I think your analogy is disingenuous.  There is no money changing hands.  And, if he is stealing somebody else's work, then he's doing a poor job of it by posting it for anyone to see.  However, I think that this guide may be edited with information, as Yallegro is now playtesting these builds on NM: 

 

<snip/>

 

Now to try nightmare

 

(just because)

[Yallegro]

Now includes the alchemist, assassin and two builds for the duelist

 

as well as many small (BUT PAINSTAKING) cleanups

 

Ya I ran those classes on nightmare

 

Kicked some ass too

[sonofbarak]

Now includes the alchemist, assassin and two builds for the duelist

 

as well as many small (BUT PAINSTAKING) cleanups

 

Ya I ran those classes on nightmare

 

Kicked some ass too

 

I like to see one of your builds on nightmare. If you die you off my friends list

[Yallegro]

Okay send me an invite one of these

 

I'm euro so we can't otherwise matchup

 

Still working on mastering the swashbuckler though

[BrumBrum]

"Horn of Valor
The good :
-Has unlimited range"

This is as far as i know not true.
The range is so short that if I am not the one in the front when we run towards a landing dragon the other three on the team will often be out of its range when since the animation is very slow.
I still like and use it, just have to plan my honking. No random honks.

[Yallegro]

You're right it doesn't

 

Fixed that

 

Thx for pointing that out

[Yallegro]

Update

 

New build for the Avvar (The Ice Giant)

 

New Build for the Templar (Heavenly Soldier)

 

And for the first time ever, an archer build! (no name yet) Don't worry, plenty of testing and it is a good one.

 

There's now a build for every class except the virtuoso whose lagging shenanigans make me want to banish him from FC for good

[Snakebite]

Gotta say, that is a very solid Archer build. Another reason not to use Long Shot is the large amount of aggro you draw with it.

I will say that I do find Mark of Death very useful in conjunction with Leaping Shot. The poor targeting of Mark of Death doesn't matter much if you are already at a close enough range to utilize Leaping Shot to its fullest extent. It also helps your other DPS teammates cut down large targets much faster.

[junker1990]

Gotta say, that is a very solid Archer build. Another reason not to use Long Shot is the large amount of aggro you draw with it.

More Long Shots -> more Leaping Shots. More Leaping Shots -> more fast kills. But even without LeapingS you can clear enemy spawns in tight spots: on the bridge on Zone 1, on the stairs on Zone 4 and so on. But I heard that OP prefers willpower over cunning.

[Yallegro]

More Long Shots -> more Leaping Shots. More Leaping Shots -> more fast kills. But even without LeapingS you can clear enemy spawns in tight spots: on the bridge on Zone 1, on the stairs on Zone 4 and so on. But I heard that OP prefers willpower over cunning.

 

But Long Shot and Leaping Shot are supposed to be used at completely different times

 

If you are at the range for Long Shot you're not going to get a lot of hits for your projectiles and you'll be out of range fast

 

If you are the right range for Leaping Shot then Long Shot is useless

 

And one hit of Long Shot doesn't exactly give you back Leaping Shot

 

 

It's not that I prefer any specific stat, I just played more mages because for a long time they did a much better job at completing matches.

(The arcane is my least played mage btw)

[Minuos]

But Long Shot and Leaping Shot are supposed to be used at completely different times

 

Pretty sure junker knows that, having seen his archer first-hand.

 

If you are at the range for Long Shot you're not going to get a lot of hits for your projectiles and you'll be out of range fast

 

Depends. Leaping Shot may scatter projectiles but they tend to level out over a distance (and sometimes home in), so clusters of enemies (or one large enemy) can still be used to reduce/reset cooldowns if the team isn't critting much.

 

If you are the right range for Leaping Shot then Long Shot is useless

 

Not really. I use enemies at melee range to direct Long Shot at further targets. Doing this has saved me a couple times by resetting the Leaping Shot I'd just used with my back to a wall.

[junker1990]

But Long Shot and Leaping Shot are supposed to be used at completely different times
 
If you are at the range for Long Shot you're not going to get a lot of hits for your projectiles and you'll be out of range fast
 
If you are the right range for Leaping Shot then Long Shot is useless
 
And one hit of Long Shot doesn't exactly give you back Leaping Shot

It's not that I prefer any specific stat, I just played more mages because for a long time they did a much better job at completing matches.
(The arcane is my least played mage btw)

Use Long Shot to intentionally collect more aggro. Enemies then running toward you providind you opportunity using Leaping Shot more effectively. That strategy requires relatively high cunning to spam Leaping Shot... and some luck with no doubt.

[Yallegro]

 

1:Depends. Leaping Shot may scatter projectiles but they tend to level out over a distance (and sometimes home in), so clusters of enemies (or one large enemy) can still be used to reduce/reset cooldowns if the team isn't critting much.

 

 

2: Not really. I use enemies at melee range to direct Long Shot at further targets. Doing this has saved me a couple times by resetting the Leaping Shot I'd just used with my back to a wall.

 

1: I've seen that too, but it's very frustrating when it fails

 

2: So you're using the Lance upgrade, that's another ability point on Long Shot. Explosive Shot is almost always better at getting some extra crits. Knockout Bomb in the face is also a very good way to save yourself. I also always use triple arrow bows, first Griffon now Hakkon which should crit better than Long Shot on those close quarter mobs. 

[Wavebend]

"Horn of Valor
The good :
-Has unlimited range"

This is as far as i know not true.

 

You took the bait!