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[Hanako Ikezawa]

See, that's the thing. Does such a small ratio still lend credence to it being "normal"?

Yes. There is nothing abnormal about it. 

 

You kinda misunderstood, but also kinda didn't. The wording wasn't great, I suppose.

My point above still stands: You can have an opposite-sex relationship with or without premarital sex, but you can't have a same-sex relationship without a gay romance option. Therefore, the decision to include gay romance isn't the same as a decision to add another step to romance in general, which before ME3 was limited to heterosexual romances (or DA2's player-sexual romances) or whatever you'd classify Liara and Kelly.

I get what you are saying. Although, so far in the Mass Effect franchise you can't have a relationship without premarital sex. It is mandatory for every single romance in the games so far.

[Han Shot First]

No, not needed.

 

It would be incredibly corny, and not really serve any function as far as character development goes. It would have no reason for existence except as blatant fan service for people who would squee over that sort of thing.

 

 

[WildOrchid]

Men and women prioritize and value other things. They seek different things in partners. Men generally tend to care more about sexual compatibility, where as women generally can live with a partner that isn't that great under the sheets as long as he makes up for it in other areas.

 

Too much generalization here. This is true in some cases, though I've known women who care about sex compatibility as much as men do. It's mostly about the personality than the gender.

[The Heretic of Time]

Right, but that's an alien, unisex romance. Doesn't really qualify.

(You replied before I made an amendment to include that. )

 

It qualifies from our human perspective imo. To us humans, Liara is clearly a female.

[The Heretic of Time]

Too much generalization here. This is true in some cases, though I've known women who care about sex compatibility as much as men do. It's mostly about the personality than the gender.

 

Exceptions prove to rule though.

[The Night Haunter]

DAI's Josephine romance is actually ambiguous enough to be taken either way as no-sex or lots of sex. She is very attentive, but nowhere do see them do anything besides cuddle and makeout. Basically if you take the sex scene out of a romance you get Josie's romance. So that works for people who want a no-sex-until-marriage type of romance, and still works for people who don't, because you can imagine it happening. (The imagination is a powerful tool, don't neglect it people!).

 

If one of MEAs romances had an arc like this I wouldn't mind, I do prefer romances that have a sex scene but I wouldn't be averse to one without it.

 

I can't remember, did Tali and Shep have sex in ME2 or was it celibate until ME3?

[The Arbiter]

I think we should be able to pair any squadmate together. The more battle they stay together, the better the relationship, and once you have reached the S rank relationship, they will get married. They then have kids and the kids have classs like biotic or soldier based on the parents. Their stats would demand on what they inherit from their parents. If it's the main character, the kid will gain every class possible.

Possible...but I am not so sure bout kids

[The Arbiter]

No, not needed.
 
It would be incredibly corny, and not really serve any function as far as character development goes. It would have no reason for existence except as blatant fan service for people who would squee over that sort of thing.

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Well I respect your oppinion. I think it is really cool addition. You know achievemnt unlocked? Get married xD then some cool dialogues and stuff

[LightningPoodle]

Men and women prioritize and value other things. They seek different things in long-term partners. Men generally tend to care more about sexual compatibility, where as women generally can live with a partner that isn't that great under the sheets as long as he makes up for it in other areas.

 

You are ignorant.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

DAI's Josephine romance is actually ambiguous enough to be taken either way as no-sex or lots of sex. She is very attentive, but nowhere do see them do anything besides cuddle and makeout. Basically if you take the sex scene out of a romance you get Josie's romance. So that works for people who want a no-sex-until-marriage type of romance, and still works for people who don't, because you can imagine it happening. (The imagination is a powerful tool, don't neglect it people!).

 

If one of MEAs romances had an arc like this I wouldn't mind, I do prefer romances that have a sex scene but I wouldn't be averse to one without it.

 

I can't remember, did Tali and Shep have sex in ME2 or was it celibate until ME3?

I would love a romance like Josephine's in the Mass Effect franchise.

 

Yes, Tali and Shepard slept together in Mass Effect 2. After the suicide mission she talks about how sick she is but how it was totally worth it. 

[The Heretic of Time]

DAI's Josephine romance is actually ambiguous enough to be taken either way as no-sex or lots of sex. She is very attentive, but nowhere do see them do anything besides cuddle and makeout. Basically if you take the sex scene out of a romance you get Josie's romance. So that works for people who want a no-sex-until-marriage type of romance, and still works for people who don't, because you can imagine it happening. (The imagination is a powerful tool, don't neglect it people!).

 

To be honest when I played DA:I I romanced Josie (due to a lack of better options) and she didn't come off as the sexually promiscuous type to me. It wouldn't surprise me if she's a no-sex-before-marriage type of girl, or at least a no-sex-before-commitment type.

[dreamgazer]

It qualifies from our human perspective imo. To us humans, Liara is clearly a female.

She's clearly an alien first though, right? That's a decision made before you even consider whether she's male, female, both or neither.

[The Arbiter]

Everyone bickering over premarital snu snu horseshit, I just want you to know that you have ruined a wonderful thread that had great purity for the first few pages.
Also, I don't see the need to explicitly include such specific a feature in a series that has so many fade to black romance scenes and leaves the dialogue rather ambiguous and vague in several of them. Homosexual marriages are a different story, because you can't just interpret that someone turned into the opposite sex after the screen faded to black, but you can totally assume there was no actual sex for a scene where you see a kiss or embrace then nothing else.

I am quite surprised too how the topic went southwards... must be a Bioware Social Nestwork thing

[The Night Haunter]

I would love a romance like Josephine's in the Mass Effect franchise. 

 

Yes, Tali and Shepard slept together in Mass Effect 2. After the suicide mission she talks about how sick she is but how it was totally worth it. 

That's right, I couldn't remember if that happened in 2 or if you had to wait until 3. I loved Tali's romance arc!

I also loved Tali and Ashley's interactions in ME3 if you romanced both, they got pretty catty lol.

[The Heretic of Time]

You are ignorant.

 

Sure thing buddy.

[SilJeff]

Marriage and divorcing [perhaps as a renegade interrupt during a heated discussion with your spouse/squadmate] would be a cool addition to the game

[Seboist]

She's clearly an alien first though, right? That's a decision made before you even consider whether she's male, female, both or neither.

 

Indeed, it's bestiality and gross. I'd sooner go with another man than an alien of either gender.

[The Heretic of Time]

Marriage and divorcing [perhaps as a renegade interrupt during a heated discussion with your spouse/squadmate] would be a cool addition to the game

 

Only as a female character. Or if my male character can get prenups. Otherwise: no deal.

[WildOrchid]

Exceptions prove to rule though.

 

Sorry but i don't see this "rule" as you do.. Women do choose partners based on their looks/anatomy and then the rest. That's why you see many women with handsome looking men. Same for men.

 

Things have changed and they still do.

[Larry-3]

Would prenuptial agreements even exist in Andromeda?

[The Arbiter]

Sorry but i don't see this "rule" as you do.. Women do choose partners based on their looks/anatomy and then the rest. That's why you see many women with handsome looking men. Same for men.
 
Things have changed and they still do.

Omg it's Aria! I worship you

[LightningPoodle]

Marriage and divorcing [perhaps as a renegade interrupt during a heated discussion with your spouse/squadmate] would be a cool addition to the game

 

That would be cool.

[LightningPoodle]

Omg it's Aria! I worship you

 

Is there a shrine anywhere where I can leave an offering?

[Quarian Master Race]

I would love a romance like Josephine's in the Mass Effect franchise.

 

Yes, Tali and Shepard slept together in Mass Effect 2. After the suicide mission she talks about how sick she is but how it was totally worth it. 

Not necessarily. Quarians can get sick or have cytokine allergic reactions by merely taking the mask off outside of a clean room, nevermind them having physical contact of any sort. Those lines are still totally ambiguous if you wish them to be. You are the one doing the interpretation. All that that particular romance shows is a couple of kisses and fade to black. Most of the other romances are similar or simply show underwear snuggling, albiet sex is implied pretty heavily in some.

Bioware shouldn't have to include silly dialogue because you lack imagination. Mass Effect's protaganist has never been a self insert  personality anyway. I can't have Javik airlock the stupid robots in ME3 like I would myself, yet I deal with the fact that Shepard doesn't.

[zestalyn]

One of my most memorable experiences in Skyrim was my marriage.

I was immediately charmed by Marcurio's snarky personality, especially in a world where everyone is either a vanilla bore or a cocky jackarse.

We got married in the Temple of Mara or whatever it's called, and I happen to have Sven the bangin' bard with me as a companion and he broke out into his rockin' flute song during the ceremony and it was the sh*t.

From then on, Marcurio lost all of his personality because of how they stupidly programmed married companions. And then I stopped playing

Back to the topic- IDRC. Our current generation has a hard enough time deciding whether they should be committed to a single girlfriend or boyfriend, I doubt they'll care about the marriage of their video game protagonists. It's all about the sex and how much you can have it. Even for just the fun of it, it doesn't seem relevant. Romance is fine as it is, it could just use improvements.