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MW2 was still okay compared to crap like Ghosts or AW, but it essentially started the trend that resulted in every following game in the series being bloated with casual, impossible to balance trash like the billions of killstreaks, far too many tacticool nonsense weapon "attachments" like dual wield and static, campy, meatgrinder map design. I'd argue the highpoint for that series was the first Modern Warfare. Simple, counterable 3-5-7 killstreaks instead of gameplay revolving around camping and exploits to get cheap, random kills. Simple attachments on weapons that had advantages and tradeoffs vs others. Relatively balanced weapons (though the perk system was pretty awful with some clearly much better than others). Maps with thought put into the design instead of random killboxes that encourage either spawntrap or camping in upper story windows (well, Shipment excluded).

Good point and yes the killstreaks like chopper gunner and ac-130 were a bit over kill in addition to the annoying "noob in the corner tubing with one man army but I'd argue that even that still didn't take away from the raw enjoyment and that bare-bones COD experience that MW2 provided that began with the original MW. (Atleast for me it didn't). MW2's skill gap was very wide and accomplishments actually felt visceral and earned for the most part. I remember when prestiging and emblems actually meant something. Appearing in game lobbies with the ac130 emblem cross, EMP emblem gif, and the highly coveted nuke emblem gif which took me almost a year to achieve felt awesome. 

 

COD descended after MW2 because the meaninful skill gap that brought that bare bone COD enjoyment was extremely compressed to appeal to a more casual audience because lets be honest here, COD is only fun when you're getting kills. Nobody like getting owned every match by more skilled COD veterans and since casual players are in the majority which equates to sales at the end of the day, activision intentionally implemented certain skill compression mechanics into the game and it's "NETCODE". I'll only talk about one example as there's too many of them.

 

Its been proven by several videos that the bad lag that COD has isn't actually your connection speed or ping but a glitch built into the games netcode itself that activision refuses to address. It enables casuals to go toe to toe even with season cod veterans because of the netcode's game breaking delays. I believe that's the main reason why most seasoned COD veterans including myself have either stopped playing COD and/or end up disappointed with each new COD release. The skill gap is compressed in loud as well as subtle ways with each release making any achievement feel hollow. Feeling like a badazz is what COD is all about but it's all hollow now for the most part.

 

I need to stop now. This is more pvp talk than this community can stomach



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COD reached it's peak with MW2 and began its descent after it....

This is true, but Michael Bay influence is already predominant in MW2, they totally ripped off "The Rock" for that game...



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Halo 3>2>1>Reach>4

ODST is better than them all. 


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Reach and ODST are cool because you're not Master Chief.

 

Master Chief is fine and all but he's kind of played out at this point.


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You got my vote for president FTFTL!



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It's a battle you will not win. The CoD crowd dominates the Xbox line of consoles.



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ODST is better than them all.


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Again. My 360, PS3, & WiiU aren't for sale. Ever. Ditto for copies of ME3mp for each of these consoles. So I don't care, nor am I voting.

 

Nor am I rushing to buy the next gen consoles that have no games for them yet, as well when I can still wait for their prices to drop, and that I can still be buying games for 360/PS3/WiiU/DS/PSP (on top of the massive collections of games I still need to get to for these consoles).



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Voted.

 

That list is really sad looking. So much CoD when there already *are* CoD games on the console already. I'm wondering if MS may just think "Ok...enough is enough." and kick a couple (all) of them aside. 



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Why Call of Duty? Just wait a year. You can buy the same game again at full price!

 

Voted for the Mass Effect trilogy.


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This is more pvp talk than this community can stomach

You sound (in a rather grumpy way, I might add) like you think you're the only one. Loads of us here play PvP. I enjoy PvP games. I just feel that ME forums are not a good place for PvP discussion because the game ethos is much more oriented towards co-op play, and there are loads of PvP games that do it pretty damn well if you want PvP.

 

I'd rather see Biovar implement couch co-op so I could introduce friends to ME3MP the easy way, than get another badly balanced PvP game that no one would enjoy anyway.



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That list makes me sad TBH.

 

The only CoD game I wouldn't mind being remastered is CoD Blops, for re-mastered zombie horde mode.

 

Kino Der Toten anyone?


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voted.

Thanks OP for providing the link.



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Since every major company is now officially jumping off the 360 ship..I am about to follow...I usually don't buy a next gen console until 2 years after  they are released..due to lack of titles / fixing whatever problems..It has been that long and it is time for me to ascend ..I will be getting Xbone in the next few weeks..was fun while it lasted.  also, voting for  Crysis series..Dead Space series, Bioshock series.

 

 

 

 

 

edited cuz SlowThanDialUp be trollin


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Since every major company is now officially jumping off the 360 ship..I am about to follow...I usually don't buy a next gen console until 2 years after  they are released..due to lack of titles / fixing whatever problems..It has been that long and it is time for me to ascend ..I will be getting Xbone in the next few weeks..was fun while it lasted.  also, voting for  Crysis series..Deep Space series, Bioshock series.

 

Deep Space sounds interesting, I would love to play that game.  ;)



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Again. My 360, PS3, & WiiU aren't for sale. Ever. Ditto for copies of ME3mp for each of these consoles. So I don't care, nor am I voting.

 

Nor am I rushing to buy the next gen consoles that have no games for them yet, as well when I can still wait for their prices to drop, and that I can still be buying games for 360/PS3/WiiU/DS/PSP (on top of the massive collections of games I still need to get to for these consoles).

 

Not voting? You already did. http://forum.bioware...ing/?p=19303461

 

I had a thread about this already, though it wasn't about MW3 knocking ME3 out of the top 10. Haven't cared to really come back to BSN enough to bump it again until today after seeing Sinful/Terminator/whatever so full of crap. 



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^ Glad to see I'm the reason your back. ... And who is Sinful?



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LOLVoting... this is just silly.



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LOLVoting... this is just silly.

 

Especially when it's broken since CoD fans can vote more then one. I mean, how are we supposed to compete with that?



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You sound (in a rather grumpy way, I might add) like you think you're the only one. Loads of us here play PvP.

It would be very dumb of me to think that I'm the only here that plays PvP. You simply assumed I did. My "grumpiness" was against the current COD formula as you can read in the 98% of my response to QMR and not against this community. When I said "this community" I didn't actually mean everyone. It was an obvious hyperbolic statement and not to be taken literal

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It would be very dumb of me to think that I'm the only here that plays PvP. You simply assumed I did. My "grumpiness" was against the current COD formula as you can read in the 98% of my response to QMR and not against this community. When I said "this community" I didn't actually mean everyone. It was an obvious hyperbolic statement and not to be taken literal

What I did or didn't assume is irrelevant. What I wrote was that you sounded like you thought you were.

 

As to what you included when you wrote "this community", well, one is not a mind reader.



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Good point and yes the killstreaks like chopper gunner and ac-130 were a bit over kill in addition to the annoying "noob in the corner tubing with one man army but I'd argue that even that still didn't take away from the raw enjoyment and that bare-bones COD experience that MW2 provided that began with the original MW. (Atleast for me it didn't). MW2's skill gap was very wide and accomplishments actually felt visceral and earned for the most part. I remember when prestiging and emblems actually meant something. Appearing in game lobbies with the ac130 emblem cross, EMP emblem gif, and the highly coveted nuke emblem gif which took me almost a year to achieve felt awesome.

COD descended after MW2 because the meaninful skill gap that brought that bare bone COD enjoyment was extremely compressed to appeal to a more casual audience because lets be honest here, COD is only fun when you're getting kills. Nobody like getting owned every match by more skilled COD veterans and since casual players are in the majority which equates to sales at the end of the day, activision intentionally implemented certain skill compression mechanics into the game and it's "NETCODE". I'll only talk about one example as there's too many of them.

Its been proven by several videos that the bad lag that COD has isn't actually your connection speed or ping but a glitch built into the games netcode itself that activision refuses to address. It enables casuals to go toe to toe even with season cod veterans because of the netcode's game breaking delays. I believe that's the main reason why most seasoned COD veterans including myself have either stopped playing COD and/or end up disappointed with each new COD release. The skill gap is compressed in loud as well as subtle ways with each release making any achievement feel hollow. Feeling like a badazz is what COD is all about but it's all hollow now for the most part.

I need to stop now. This is more pvp talk than this community can stomach


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#49
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What I did or didn't assume is irrelevant. 

 

 What I wrote was that you sounded like you thought you were.

lol I'm done



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lol I'm done

Excellent news.