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Mass Effect "Keep," Yay or Nay?


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I got this from GamerMD83, a very awesome, and very knowledgeable Mass Effect fan.  In this video: 

 

She believes they will incorporate all 4 endings in ME:A similar to I guess Dragon Age: Inquisition?  I don't think, adding in the endings from ME3 into ME:A is a good idea..  Too many variables to account for.  Just NO, please.



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The whole reason they are doing the Andromeda thing is to avoid the endings. Obviously. It's what led us to predict Andromeda before they even announced Andromeda, lol. So, in that sense I disagree with her.

However, I can see only ONE way in which this can work. The Ark leaves during the Reaper War, prior to major decisions or shortly thereafter but prior to Priority Earth. Then, while they cannot return to the MW, they keep a QEC device that can communicate with the MW.

Periodically throughout the game, the player can talk with people in the MW and ask about the post-war state of the galaxy. This would allow them to incorporate player choice and the endings into the game without it affecting the setting or story of Andromeda at all.
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It's yea not yay, unless you're just that excited.


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I think the Ark leaving during the War makes sense.

 

But cut off all communications when the RGB explodes, leaving no way to go back and no communications to the MW. Shepard's fate is unknown. 

 

That's my belief of what ME:A is.


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I think the Ark leaving during the War makes sense.

 

But cut off all communications when the RGB explodes, leaving no way to go back and no communications to the MW. Shepard's fate is unknown. 

 

That's my belief of what ME:A is.

 

I would be ok with that -- with the "ark" trying to find a way to reestablish communications with the MW


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I think the Ark leaving during the War makes sense.

But cut off all communications when the RGB explodes, leaving no way to go back and no communications to the MW. Shepard's fate is unknown.

That's my belief of what ME:A is.


This would be preferable to me too. And like I said, hypothesizing about this very thing is what allowed us to predict Andromeda...so if Bioware doesn't go this route, they are going somewhere close to this route for sure. The QEC thing I mentioned is the only possible way to explore the endings in any way, I think.
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Also, watching her video (admittedly skipped over some parts), her logic is basically "semi-canonize synthesis because it is inevitable and adopt all other commonalities in the endings to homogenize them".

Which isn't really player choice, is it?

Several things about her little venn diagram also make no sense, like including Refusal as a legitimate ending when it is a subsequent cycle that beats the Reapers...not ours.

Additionally, the game CANT be that divorced in time from the trilogy because the technology would be insanely advanced. Especially in a post-synthesis setting. No, the tech has to be kept relatively similar to maintain familiarity. And the existence of omnitools and the mako confirms that thought process.

The game will take place in the future, yes, but probably because the ark ship has been travelling for some time and the colonists are in stasis, or some other mechanism to explain a setting divorced in time and distance but not divorced in familiarity.

So, pretty sure she is wrong.
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Also, watching her video (admittedly skipped over some parts), her logic is basically "semi-canonize synthesis because it is inevitable and adopt all other commonalities in the endings to homogenize them".

Which isn't really player choice, is it?

Several things about her little venn diagram also make no sense, like including Refusal as a legitimate ending when it is a subsequent cycle that beats the Reapers...not ours.

Additionally, the game CANT be that divorced in time from the trilogy because the technology would be insanely advanced. Especially in a post-synthesis setting. No, the tech has to be kept relatively similar to maintain familiarity. And the existence of omnitools and the mako confirms that thought process.

The game will take place in the future, yes, but probably because the ark ship has been travelling for some time and the colonists are in stasis, or some other mechanism to explain a setting divorced in time and distance but not divorced in familiarity.

So, pretty sure she is wrong.

 

Synthesis is in my opinion the WORSE ending.  If they are going to canonize, just make it destroy or retcon refusal to where we do win.  She made an interesting video, but let's say if she's correct... I'll be highly upset they went with synthesis..


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Synthesis is in my opinion the WORSE ending. If they are going to canonize, just make it destroy or retcon refusal to where we do win. She made an interesting video, but let's say if she's correct... I'll be highly upset they went with synthesis..


Her logic was basically what people here were discussing prior to the Andromeda hypothesis - that they would either homogenize the endings by making synthesis inevitable since that is what the Catalyst straight up tells you, canonize an ending, homogenize red and blue into a "purple" ending or...dun dun dunnnn...move the setting entirely.

They chose the last choice out of all those possibilities. Which to me says something about their motives.

So don't worry, I bet she is wrong. Synthesis wont rear its ugly, ugly head.

Although I know there are some Huskmancers around here that will be disappointed.
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Her logic was basically what people here were discussing prior to the Andromeda hypothesis - that they would either homogenize the endings by making synthesis inevitable since that is what the Catalyst straight up tells you, canonize an ending, homogenize red and blue into a "purple" ending or...dun dun dunnnn...move the setting entirely.

They chose the last choice out of all those possibilities. Which to me says something about their motives.

So don't worry, I bet she is wrong. Synthesis wont rear its ugly, ugly head.

Although I know there are some Huskmancers around here that will be disappointed.

 

Thank Kalahira ! 


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Synthesis is in my opinion the WORSE ending.  If they are going to canonize, just make it destroy or retcon refusal to where we do win.  She made an interesting video, but let's say if she's correct... I'll be highly upset they went with synthesis..

Agreed.  A galaxy with no violence or conflict, everyone singing and holding hands.  That's not a place I want to live in.


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Agreed.  A galaxy with no violence or conflict, everyone singing and holding hands.  That's not a place I want to live in.

 

This is what I think about when someone mentions synthesis in ME:A...

 

 

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I don't think they'll adress the endings in Andromeda, my line of thought is with those who believes the "Ark" will leave the Milky Way at some point during the Reaper War (or even before in the gap between ME2 and ME3) in a way to BioWare get away with the events of ME3 in the most diplomatic way. We'll see what happens.



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I say: Nay. Let the original trilogy go. It's dead. It made more sense to have it in DA. If the next DA is a whole new story, I'd be fine with letting the prior story die as well.
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After the bulls*** that was ME3, it's best left forgotten, which is exactly why ME4 is taking place in the Andromeda galaxy(i.e. starting from scratch).



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This is what I think about when someone mentions synthesis in ME:A...


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Even as a kid, Barney seemed a little...rapey to me.
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I got this from GamerMD83, a very awesome, and very knowledgeable Mass Effect fan.  

 

She believes they will incorporate all 4 endings in ME:A similar to I guess Dragon Age: Inquisition?  I don't think, adding in the endings from ME3 into ME:A is a good idea..  Too many variables to account for.  Just NO, please.

I watch MD to, she misses some really obvious things  sometimes or focuses on stuff that doesn't actually tell us that much. I always tend to take her info with a grain of salt.



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Even as a kid, Barney seemed a little...rapey to me.

Always worried me that a motherfukin T"REX  is arround kids.



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Always worried me that a motherfukin T"REX  is arround kids.

I'd rather trust a real T-Rex than Barnie.

At least we all know the T-Rex's intentions.

 

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Nah only T-rex id trus would be Mark Boland. And he was a Jeapster. 



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We're flying away, leaving the endings behind. If they're going to homogenize the endings they might as well place the game in this galaxy.

 

I also hope there is no Keep. Maintain given knowledge/lore about the galaxy (there is a Council, Reapers are coming, etc.) and make an independent story. All that stuff from the trilogy (genophage, cerberus...) is happening over there. We are over here. Besides, the trilogy is done. Leave it be. It's a new day. Yesterday is gone. I'm ready for some novelty.



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I'm personally in favor of the concept.

 

I don't care about the endings; they can leave all that out. What I care about are certain decisions leading up to the endings. Was the genophage cured? Were the rachni wiped out? Did the geth, quarians or both survive?

 

That's it. That's all I care about. Make a Keep-themed website, answer those questions, let them have an impact on the game, and I'm happy.

 

I don't care what color light Shepard chose. I don't care who Shepard f*cked.  Just let us answer what species are alive and which ones aren't to make it onto the Ark.

 

I would rather they include this option and include these species for those who spared them than not include the option and not include the species at all because they're worried about pissing off the people who could have killed them.


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I'm personally in favor of the concept.

 

I don't care about the endings; they can leave all that out. What I care about are certain decisions leading up to the endings. Was the genophage cured? Were the rachni wiped out? Did the geth, quarians or both survive?

 

That's it. That's all I care about. Make a Keep-themed website, answer those questions, let them have an impact on the game, and I'm happy.

 

I don't care what color light Shepard chose. I don't care who Shepard f*cked.  Just let us answer what species are alive and which ones aren't to make it onto the Ark.

 

I would rather they include this option and include these species for those who spared them than not include the option and not include the species at all because they're worried about pissing off the people who could have killed them.

 

QFT. 


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There are two reasons that a Keep would be needed:

 

1. They plan to use trilogy choices in ME:A

 

2. They plan to use ME:A choices in some future game

 

If either of the above are true, then there should be a Keep.


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As long as it's better than the Mass Effect: Genesis comics I'll be okay with a Mass Effect Keep.


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