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[Nixou]

I wish BW writers saw it as clear as you do.

 

 

I wouldn't say the writers didn't notice the problem: more likely they just didn't have the time to rewrite the whole thing given the too tight schedule.

[Chiramu]

I saw exactly why the stuff was cut with the way he explained it(para-phrased), "a long plot line to do with Make Hawke and why they don't get chased by the Templars". The fact that he said, "LONG" is the reason it was cut. Also would there have been a similar quest for the rogue and warrior classes too? Long doesn't mean it will be interesting.

 

If DA2 got more time then the writers could at least sit down and rework these boring parts so they can be put into the game.

[Wulfram]

I didn't mind the rather short final act, since it's suppose to depict the point where years of prejudice and distrust finally reach the boiling point.
 
Still, I always thought that apart from needing at least two more years in development, DA2's narrative was two cluttered and unbalanced: Varric's tale had long time skips between the acts, but it always felt that the each act's events all happened within the same week: leading me to think that the game needed intra-acts time-skips as well as a five (instead of three) acts structure alternating between optimistic and tragic conclusions

In principal, more, shorter acts would make sense, but I think it'd make the game feel quite a bit more linear since you'd be more restricted in when you did things

[Bob Walker]

It's a pity that DA2 is commonly considered an utterly failure and not simply a flawed game. Probably, we won't see that kind of game again. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Even with its faults and cut content i'd still take DA2 over DAI any day of the week.

 

But then again I was one of those folks back in 2011 who said it was a solid, enjoyable game much unlike DAI which in my opinion is little more then a single player MMO that completely disregards the prior narratives established both by DA2 and it's corresponding novels.

[Nixou]

In principal, more, shorter acts would make sense, but I think it'd make the game feel quite a bit more linear since you'd be more restricted in when you did things 

 

 

I don't mind making main quests linear especially when that increase the game's narrative coherence.

In fact one thing which annoyed me the most with Inquisition's plot and pacing was the fact that they let you chose in which order you'll tackle Wicked Eyes and Here Lies the Abyss.

*Rant mode On*   Seriously? The Western Approach and Adamant Fortress, which are located at the Western borders of Orlais are accessible before the end of the Orlesian civil war? The Inquisition can move its big-ass army, whose headquarters are located in Ferelden, East of Orlais through the filled-with elven-guerrilla Dales and the densely populated Heartlands while Briala, Gaspard and Celene's troops are still mobilized and on edge and they won't just watch the Inquisition's troop pass simply because Josie sent their generals a polite letter assuring them of the Inquisition's neutrality? these two damn zones should have remained closed off until after the ball!  *Rant mode Off*

[Aren]

 

 

 

Also have to disagree with David on Merrill's Friendship path; a lot of people took it not to change her outlook, but because they agreed with it, or valued her ability to make her own choices, or just plain liked her as a person. Bit of a shame to see him take such a black-and-white outlook on the subject too; one of the great strengths of Merrill as a character was that she introduced some ambiguity into blood magic, and posed some interesting moral questions that deserved exploration. (Yet another reason why they need to bring it back as a specialization for DA4).

 

Still, it's a very interesting look at the creative process. Let's hope that whatever project he's working on now doesn't suffer the same complications.

I have always trusted Merrill,her wisdom, her end goal and capability,more than Marethari,and look she succeeded with her Eluvian without causing any trouble(Audacity was there for Marethari),she needed only moral support.

[Hiemoth]

Thanks for the interview, it was extremely interesting to hear his views on the developmental cycle of DA2 and also his apparent sadness of how much was lost due to the insanely short development cycle. DA2 remains my own favorite in the DA series, so actually hearing honest discussion on it from the developer is kind of refreshing.

[Shevy]

The general concept of DA II with its personal story over a decade with time skips still remains the best one in the DA franchise. Sadly the execution was extremely bad and I don't like it at all. The interview provides some insight in why it turned out this way and what it could've been. It shows again that making a quick revenue on the success of a predecessor is more important to some higher ups than delivering a quality product.

[Eonetic]

The Rivalry system was a fantastic concept and i sincerely hope they bring it back, although significantly improved.

 

Not all relationships are good, and not all people are compatible, it would be extremely interesting to see your PC in a very destructive relationship despite both being good people.

[Capone666]

Thanks again all

[Catche Jagger]

It's a pity that DA2 is commonly considered an utterly failure and not simply a flawed game. Probably, we won't see that kind of game again.

Well, at least on here, it isn't viewed that way. Even I, being highly critical of DA2, still think that a lot of the concepts behind DA2 were really cool. It was, however, a deeply flawed game and the victim of a very rushed development.

[AWTEW]

Even with its faults and cut content i'd still take DA2 over DAI any day of the week.

 

But then again I was one of those folks back in 2011 who said it was a solid, enjoyable game much unlike DAI which in my opinion is little more then a single player MMO that completely disregards the prior narratives established both by DA2 and it's corresponding novels.

 

/somuchthis

[Linkenski]

Nice read, but I'm still sure that even with the cut content in there it would've still had many of its worst flaws remaining, like Anders blowing up the chantry. That didn't make people go "damn it anders" in a "good way", because it felt like a really contrived story beat that made Anders and the writers look really stupid.

[CosmicGnosis]

Nice read, but I'm still sure that even with the cut content in there it would've still had many of its worst flaws remaining, like Anders blowing up the chantry. That didn't make people go "damn it anders" in a "good way", because it felt like a really contrived story beat that made Anders and the writers look really stupid.

I loved it. It was great to finally have a character that I liked and respected suddenly do something so terrible that I was forced to question everything I had felt about him. And I thought the terrorist attack made sense; as the years passed, Anders became more and more zealous.

 

You claim that it makes the writers look really stupid. So then I must be really stupid for liking it. Yay.