So, what can Bioware do:
Option 1). Do nothing - drive players away who are tired of the cheaters.
Option 2). Penalize / Ban cheaters - cull out major portions of the player base.
Is there any option that doesn't make the player base smaller?
I don't care what they do, I only care that they don't kill the player base while doing it.
Bioware needs to make a decision about what course of action will be taken, quickly. Then they need to inform the community.
This bug was introduced with the most recent patch. It wasn't brought to the attention of the the community until the double XP weekend. Bioware has issued the following statements thus far.
1. The bug requires a patch to be removed.
2. Repercussions through bans are a possibility.
As a result of Bioware's stance the following has occurred:
1. Bug has become common knowledge and is being used by a large portion of the player-base.
We are aware challenge progress tracking can be difficult at times. Gold gained in "random" lobbies, dragon slayer, weekend events, new agent completions
We are aware that a substantial increase in the bugs use has occurred
We are aware that the player base of DAMP is already small
We are aware DAMP is a casual PVE/COOP game
The advantage that is available by playing in these bugged lobbies is absurd. Promoting in bugged lobbies at a rate of 3+ per hour versus non-bugged lobbies is certainly not equitable. As a community we need to know what is going to come of this, so we can conduct ourselves accordingly.
Actually the bug been around for months, did not come with the patch.
Actually the bug been around for months, did not come with the patch.
MINDBLOWN
If I recall correctly, I jumped into a lobby that gave dbl exp when the weekly challenges were in place. It might have been a Tuesday evening.
Luke still has no idea what he's doing with the AW. How's that? lolLuke is probably the most well respected dev on this entire forum. Ive not heard anyone say anything negative about him or his work.
Actually the bug been around for months, did not come with the patch.
What platform are you on?
On Xbox 1 I have pugged a lot in the last few months and never ran into the 2x xp glitch or even heard about it until after patch 1.09 came out. Also, if the glitch did exist earlier then it is only probable that the forums would have prior posts about it as current activity suggests this is not a topic to fly under the radar. Additionally, the top 100 leaderboard would also reflect some movement based on the glitch since there are several that pug frequently and would not have been able to hide even a few small jumps in Prestige let alone any huge jumps like we see more often now.
If you have proof the glitch existed prior to the patch I'd appreciate hearing about it, as a friend of mine has a theory that makes more sense to me. When BioWare was coming up with patch 1.09 they also added code for the double xp weekend event, and when the patch went live there was some code mixup that caused the 2x lobby glitch. Further support for this would be that since the erroneous code was in the patch, then it also takes a patch to fix and not just a hotfix like what is used to turn on/off weekend events. If the glitch was introduced in 1.08 or even in the Dragonslayer DLC I think it would have been way more rampant prior to patch 1.09 as gaming communities are notorious for finding these errors and using them or discussing them until they are dead....wait they still discuss them even when they are dead...heck I think we all discuss this stuff even we are dead...lol 
What platform are you on?
On Xbox 1 I have pugged a lot in the last few months and never ran into the 2x xp glitch or even heard about it until after patch 1.09 came out. Also, if the glitch did exist earlier then it is only probable that the forums would have prior posts about it as current activity suggests this is not a topic to fly under the radar. Additionally, the top 100 leaderboard would also reflect some movement based on the glitch since there are several that pug frequently and would not have been able to hide even a few small jumps in Prestige let alone any huge jumps like we see more often now.
If you have proof the glitch existed prior to the patch I'd appreciate hearing about it, as a friend of mine has a theory that makes more sense to me. When BioWare was coming up with patch 1.09 they also added code for the double xp weekend event, and when the patch went live there was some code mixup that caused the 2x lobby glitch. Further support for this would be that since the erroneous code was in the patch, then it also takes a patch to fix and not just a hotfix like what is used to turn on/off weekend events. If the glitch was introduced in 1.08 or even in the Dragonslayer DLC I think it would have been way more rampant prior to patch 1.09 as gaming communities are notorious for finding these errors and using them or discussing them until they are dead....wait they still discuss them even when they are dead...heck I think we all discuss this stuff even we are dead...lol
I think he might be right, it could have been present during Dragon Slayer DLC because i remember one time I was running FC Perilous for Dragon weapons and one time everyone was getting 19000xp per person at the end of the session.
Then I when I was running FC in Nightmare recently for Hakkon weapons I was wondering why we were all getting less xp.
10 print "Dead Horse"
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What platform are you on?
On Xbox 1 I have pugged a lot in the last few months and never ran into the 2x xp glitch or even heard about it until after patch 1.09 came out. Also, if the glitch did exist earlier then it is only probable that the forums would have prior posts about it as current activity suggests this is not a topic to fly under the radar. Additionally, the top 100 leaderboard would also reflect some movement based on the glitch since there are several that pug frequently and would not have been able to hide even a few small jumps in Prestige let alone any huge jumps like we see more often now.
If you have proof the glitch existed prior to the patch I'd appreciate hearing about it, as a friend of mine has a theory that makes more sense to me. When BioWare was coming up with patch 1.09 they also added code for the double xp weekend event, and when the patch went live there was some code mixup that caused the 2x lobby glitch. Further support for this would be that since the erroneous code was in the patch, then it also takes a patch to fix and not just a hotfix like what is used to turn on/off weekend events. If the glitch was introduced in 1.08 or even in the Dragonslayer DLC I think it would have been way more rampant prior to patch 1.09 as gaming communities are notorious for finding these errors and using them or discussing them until they are dead....wait they still discuss them even when they are dead...heck I think we all discuss this stuff even we are dead...loth
I play on the PS3. We notice the jumps with 4 people on our leaderboard like everyone is seeing now. We could not figure out how they were putting up the points. But now with the xp glitch it goes hand in hand how they were moving up so fast. We first notice the jumping when we had the first 50 prestige weekend event.
By not using an exploit, choosing not to violate bioware's ToS, and deciding not to cheat I am better than the people who are using this bug and so are the many others who are deciding not to cheat as well.
I do not do it because it makes me feel good. I am bringing up the issue because what has taken me many months of work promotion wise is being accomplished in a matter of weeks. This is wrong, not equitable, and not fair to those of us who have played within the rules.
Touchy subject indeed, and while I can't speak for anyone else I do believe that judging other people's actions is an inherent part of being human. After all we have laws for our society for this purpose. While an extreme example, during the recent police 
(always wanted to use this guy and now I can...lol) drama in some towns across the US some people who wanted to protest also chose to loot. I find those actions detestable, but that does mean everyone who committed those acts are horrible human beings.
In DAMP it's a game world, but real human feelings are involved because we make friendships and invest time. to some people time is more precious than it is to others, and for some since this is a game they feel it's somewhat separated from reality, it's a place to let you act differently than if you were in the real world performing the same actions. I do not believe that most if any of the people using the glitch would not help their fellow man if there was an accident in real life and they had the power to help. I do agree with Denrok though in that we are judged by our actions, and if your actions hurt others even indirectly then I would hope you took the time to put yourself in someone else's shoes and see if you would feel the same.
Typically when someone cheats they know it's wrong, they have guilty moments, but as a self defense mechanism they try to justify their cheating by saying things like "I'm not hurting anyone else", "its the Dev's fault", "It's just a game" or "I bought the game so I can do what I want" etc. First none of us own the game, that solely belongs to the Developer and whatever entities are part of the creation process. We all bought a license like one of my friends so aptly stated yesterday (Shout Meg!) and when we play the game we are beholden to the ToS we agreed to. If this ToS states the glitch is cheating then it is, and from what I read the term "Abuse" is key to determining who is actually cheating and who is just along for the ride so to speak.
Next, anyone that cheats, wither it's in a game or real life is hurting someone. They are also potentially hurting themselves as well, and it's not about some morale high ground. I honestly don't really care about the morale reasons someone either cheats or does not cheat, it's a the more basic instincts that I'm worried about. It's the selfishness that occurs when you cheat and when you lash out at people who cheat. This selfishness and it is selfish because doing the glitch does not benefit the community, it does not benefit your friends, it does not benefit any of the player base or the gameplay of DAMP. The only benefit doing this 2x glitch is self gratification, as harsh as that may sound. Also, the reactions to people who glitch can be selfish as well. I admit I am being selfish when I say I don't want others to glitch, as I care about the hard work I put into this game, but in the overall scope of things someone gaining 100 or 200 or 300 promotions does not and should not affect my enjoyment of the game. I can create my own lobbies, and play with friends that feel the same as me.
However, where the difference between the two sides does justify being a little selfish is that it will be the people abusing the glitch that hurts the player base or causes DAMP to change in such a way that fewer people want to play. That is where I will say I have a right to judge the actions of someone else, not the character, but the actions. As I have stated in a previous post I am no saint, and I do not advocate mass banning of the player base, but I also feel that everyday you have choices and people who consistently make the choice to do something that could lead to hurting others deserves some form of discipline.
I also agree with Proto that BioWare has a responsibility to be more proactive and clear on what the expectations for their game are. Just posting in the forum is not good enough, and while we all have an individual responsibility to read the ToS, it is unrealistic in our society to have this be the only form of communication on something that is clearly dividing the community of DAMP. It is really telling when more of the players who initially voiced against glitching are starting to glitch themselves. I doubt the game will crumble over this and go away, but there are a lot of good and fun people who are now being put into situations that should never should have been put in and either leaving or becoming so vocal as to further alienate an already dwindling player base.
I kind of wish that once BioWare knew about the glitch that they would have just added an XP bonus where you could go from level 1 to 20 even in a Routine match and higher, and then no one benefitted from the glitch because were all on the same page then, and gaining xp commensurate with out hours of played again. I'm sure that is unrealistic but it's the only way I could think of to nip this in the bud before it grew to such a big issue. As it stands now I'd say close to 90% or more of the player base has experienced the glitch even in the smallest amount, and somewhere between 40-50% are actively abusing it or did abuse it at some point. That is too large of a number to just ban everyone, at least on Xbone...
Please BioWare fix this ASAP! Grrrr... 
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Went for TLDR.
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My Response: That is a lot of text just to justify the use of 1 more emoji.
Darn Skippy! 
(Ok so I used this one thinking it meant party, then read under it and it says "wizard" kind of random, but I am deciding to ignore said description and say lets all just have a party! lol)
Doesn't matter if you read my post my possible future friend, after all I view any forum post to be more for the poster than the community. It's an outlet for our thoughts and emotions, not a bridge to world peace...mmmm...or maybe it could be a bridge to world domination, will have to give that one some thought. haha
I play on the PS3. We notice the jumps with 4 people on our leaderboard like everyone is seeing now. We could not figure out how they were putting up the points. But now with the xp glitch it goes hand in hand how they were moving up so fast. We first notice the jumping when we had the first 50 prestige weekend event.
Hmmm... Well that is disconcerting. I suppose there was a glitch long ago and maybe the recent patch just opened up a quicker path or no longer random path. Makes me wonder if there could be a deeper code issue. Hopefully after next patch all will be right with DAMP again though, and I appreciate you bringing this to our attention.
If Bioware can identify the cheaters, why not send them direct emails, warning them to stop? I'm sure if a cheater got some kind of e-mail warning, they would stop.
If the new patch can't be released for another 3-4 weeks, I'd think this would be a great way to slow down the glitch right now.
Or both right? Do not feel too bad. It is well known moon star is one of the players heavily abusing the exp glitch. Karma will come knocking on his door step soon enough hopefully via a a stat rewind or ban.It's one thing to glitch a lobby,but it's really a whole different story when they force to kick you because you passed by a treasure door on xb1.
I'm talking to you: moon star qc
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