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[solasdorian]

I'm wondering if it's possible to change your World States in the middle of the game? Or do I have to create a new character?

[Reznore57]

As far as I know you can't , maaaybe on pc if you can find a save editor , but I'm not sure.

[solasdorian]

Thank you for your fast reply! I am actually playing on my PC and it says when you save the changes you've made in your current World State: "Overwrite the Inquisition Game Slot? Importing this World State will replace the current active World State in your game slot. Would you like to continue?"

I'm still not certain though.

[Brian Mills]

Hi Solasdorian -

 

Reznore57 is correct.  Once your game of DAI has started, any changes you make in the Keep will not be fetched by the game and are only used at the start of a new game.

 

The message you are seeing refers to a "slot" where we store the data to be read by the game when you make a new character, and not to any of your save games or characters you have in progress

[DAIplayer]

Hi Solasdorian -

 

Reznore57 is correct.  Once your game of DAI has started, any changes you make in the Keep will not be fetched by the game and are only used at the start of a new game.

 

The message you are seeing refers to a "slot" where we store the data to be read by the game when you make a new character, and not to any of your save games or characters you have in progress

Just what i wanted to know thank you very much

[Fenris8]

I only just managed to access the Keep thing now, after multiple tries. Im on xbox 360, and when I first got the game, I was excited to start so I didn't do it. Then only found out when hawke didn have fenris.

 

Heard that we cannot use the new state for the current games right? Can bio please give us the option of doing that halfway? There should be some flexibility coz not all of us knew about the necessity of the Keep.

[HeatherWind]

I was wondering about this too - it SAYS it overwrites, but it doesn't?? I made mistakes in my first playthrough that I had *hoped* to correct in the Keep, with the intention of importing into the DLC, but even though I was able to change the decisions in Keep, they won't reflect in game unless I start an entirely new game? Honestly, what is the point of that? Why give us the option to change DA:I decisions if they only apply to a new game (where you have to replay all of those things anyway)?

 

I had dearly hoped I wouldn't have to go try a 3rd party mod editor to fix this, and the thought of starting over when I already have nearly 260 hours in that playthrough and DLC waiting is incredibly frustrating. 

[Ranadiel Marius]

Why give us the option to change DA:I decisions if they only apply to a new game (where you have to replay all of those things anyway)?

 

In preparation for DA4.

[HeatherWind]

In preparation for DA4.

 

And we don't know when DA4 will release, so in the meantime, our only option is to start over on a new game to correct any mistakes we didn't know we were making the first time, because whatever we put into the Inquisition game options of the Keep don't matter.

My one character that was high enough to progress into the DLC is effectively dead right now because of one relationship choice wrecking the epilogue (I got stuck with Vivienne as Divine -- which was my worst case scenario, all because I didn't know being nice to her at the time made her the default choice), and my only options are to invest hundreds of hours in another playthrough (and avoid the internet for weeks because everyone else is posting spoilers) or take my chances on a 3rd party story editor mod that could break my existing game. That is heartbreaking after so much work. I was ready to buy all the other DLC, but there's no point now since I won't be able to play them until after my new Inquisitor levels up.

 

If they had allowed us to enter the DLC separately as they did for DA:Origins and import our Keep choices, that could have saved so much grief. The utility was right there. It feels like a terribly missed opportunity now.

[Kantr]

I was wondering about this too - it SAYS it overwrites, but it doesn't?? I made mistakes in my first playthrough that I had *hoped* to correct in the Keep, with the intention of importing into the DLC, but even though I was able to change the decisions in Keep, they won't reflect in game unless I start an entirely new game? Honestly, what is the point of that? Why give us the option to change DA:I decisions if they only apply to a new game (where you have to replay all of those things anyway)?

 

I had dearly hoped I wouldn't have to go try a 3rd party mod editor to fix this, and the thought of starting over when I already have nearly 260 hours in that playthrough and DLC waiting is incredibly frustrating. 

It overwrites the info sent ready for a new PT. The DAI tiles were added after the game launch. Thus the game isn't built to have everything changed by sending the info back into it.

 

There would be no point to playing the game if you could just make changes online for anything.

[HeatherWind]

It overwrites the info sent ready for a new PT. The DAI tiles were added after the game launch. Thus the game isn't built to have everything changed by sending the info back into it.

 

There would be no point to playing the game if you could just make changes online for anything.

 

 

Or it could have been an option if you've already beaten the game. As it is, unless you turn on Spoilers in the settings, you won't see the applicable tiles unless you've unlocked them in game, which is fine. My point was, if you have already beaten the game, it would have been nice to have the option to change things before importing into the DLC so we're not stuck with a world state we never intended based on a key choice that's so far back into the gameplay that starting over is preferable. As it stands, it ends up feeling like a crap shoot that no matter how much you neurotically metagame to seek a specific outcome, you get stuck with something else, after hundreds of hours, and no way to fix it beyond risking a 3rd party story editor mod. That is incredibly frustrating.

 

I specifically told Vivienne I wanted Leliana and did nothing to encourage her to seek Divine. I specifically did all of Leliana's quests and told her I'd support her. I specifically told Cassandra to focus on the Seekers and refuse the Divine. But that apparently wasn't good enough as I was nice to Vivienne on the way and did her companion quests too. No one likes to feel their efforts are wasted based on an arbitrary approval system we can't even see in action or mitigate. So yes, it would have been nice to have the option to correct that, after already putting in the effort to unlock the content. 

 

It's a moot point though, now that we know it won't matter until DA4. My consolation is that if I have to replay anything at least this game is worth replaying -- if it were any other I might not bother, but this one is worth waiting for, and I'm grateful for the effort that's been put into it so far.

[Fenris8]

And we don't know when DA4 will release, so in the meantime, our only option is to start over on a new game to correct any mistakes we didn't know we were making the first time, because whatever we put into the Inquisition game options of the Keep don't matter.

My one character that was high enough to progress into the DLC is effectively dead right now because of one relationship choice wrecking the epilogue (I got stuck with Vivienne as Divine -- which was my worst case scenario, all because I didn't know being nice to her at the time made her the default choice), and my only options are to invest hundreds of hours in another playthrough (and avoid the internet for weeks because everyone else is posting spoilers) or take my chances on a 3rd party story editor mod that could break my existing game. That is heartbreaking after so much work.

 

Hi Heatherwind, I agree with you! I didn't even feel like going to the Keep thingie when I already reached skyhold.

I didn't like vivienne, didn't know she would become Divine yuck. Hm it's as if bioware wants to make us all stressed up about this,

and on top of some lagging, freezing issues. Why don't u just continue where u are?

Which's why i prefer seeing fenris, much MUCh easier Gaming should be entertaining. Not sure if they do actually take in feedback... I won't be buying the next few for sure.

[Kantr]

It's never going to happen anyway.

[Fenris8]

Huh what is never going to happen? @kantr

[Kantr]

Changing what you did in-game via the keep. Or changing the worldstate that you had imported from the keep

[Fenris8]

Changing what you did in-game via the keep. Or changing the worldstate that you had imported from the keep

Ahhh ok. On my current game, the Emerald graves glitches got fixed and my Hawke saved!! YES! To Heatherwind, did you manage to solve the problems?