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[Kabooooom]

Power Armour.

It's been a while since I played the Mass Effect trilogy but I don't recall being able to wear armour, similar to that of Iron Man.

That would be nice.

Also teleportation and digitized bio lifeforms.

More uses for Biotics in combat. Maybe we can use it to 'hulk up' or something.

The exosuits you wear in Mass Effect are more or less powered armor.

But what you are describing sounds more like Halo lore than Mass Effect's.

[animedreamer]

personal teleportation devices, the N7 Shadow proved that it could work.

[RoboticWater]

personal teleportation devices, the N7 Shadow proved that it could work.

I think they just turn invisible and move fast.

[Quarian Master Race]

personal teleportation devices, the N7 Shadow proved that it could work.

The shadow can't do it unless you count SS as being actual teleportation rather than simply game mechanics, but many of the biotic MP characters (and Banshees) can warp through walls.

[BabyPuncher]

digitized bio lifeforms.

 

Uh-huh. Right.

 

You know that 'digital' just means a signal that exists only as discreet rather than continuous values?

[Kabooooom]

Uh-huh. Right.

You know that 'digital' just means a signal that exists only as discreet rather than continuous values?

This seems unnecessarily nit-picky, since he was obviously referring to the common sci-fi trope of mind uploading to achieve transcendent immortality. Who cares what terminology he used to describe an extremely theoretical and nonexistent technology?

It's almost like, if you've run out of things to ****** and be a contrarian about, you start looking for minutia.

[Quarian Master Race]

Brain uploading isn't new technology by this setting's standards. The virtual aliens and control ending are both examples.

Actually, that's one of the technologies I would like them to get rid of, considering WBE is largely based on dualistic nonsense and likely will never really be possible.

[Kabooooom]

Brain uploading isn't new technology by this setting's standards. The virtual aliens and control ending are both examples.

Actually, that's one of the technologies I would like them to get rid of, considering WBE is largely based on dualistic nonsense and likely will never really be possible.

I agree. Well, I agree in the sense that the concept of "I take a mind from x body and put it in y machine such that x body no longer contains said mind" is based on dualistic nonsense that even a rudimentary understanding of modern neurology can refute.

But, the opposite of that dualistic nonsense is a purely material view of the mind and the brain. And this is a view that I do absolutely accept. When you start to think about extreme examples of that model of consciousness, some very curious philosophical consequences arise. It's the old "Star Trek Transporter" conundrum with regards to consciousness, when one accepts a materialistic view of it.

Thinking about such things leads to pretty much only two conclusions (if a materialistic view of consciousness is correct, which I think it absofuckinglutely is): Either a) such situations involving mind replication either synthetically or organically are physically impossible and therefore irrelevant, or b ) that our concept of individual consciousness and the sense of self is fundamentally flawed. I think the latter is more likely.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Brain uploading isn't new technology by this setting's standards. The virtual aliens and control ending are both examples.

Actually, that's one of the technologies I would like them to get rid of, considering WBE is largely based on dualistic nonsense and likely will never really be possible.

 

Also, the Control ending got it wrong. ^^

[Indigenous]

The exosuits you wear in Mass Effect are more or less powered armor.

But what you are describing sounds more like Halo lore than Mass Effect's.

 

I have not played halo but Mass Effect 3 has super mechs or whatever these things are called (Been a while since I played). So I dont see it as affecting the lore. I know it is a vehicle or something like that but it is not much different to what I had in mind. Something much smaller. Iron Man being what I had in mind. Body armour than can be used more as an active tool as in a weapon or allowing you to fly.

 

 

 

Uh-huh. Right.

 

You know that 'digital' just means a signal that exists only as discreet rather than continuous values?

I am sorry. Not an expert in this field. Did a little research and came up with the term 'mind uploading' into something. This doesn't quite explain the technology I would want in Andromeda as well as 'digitizing biolifeforms' or 'digitizing personalities' does.

[Kabooooom]

I have not played halo but Mass Effect 3 has super mechs or whatever these things are called (Been a while since I played). So I dont see it as affecting the lore. I know it is a vehicle or something like that but it is not much different to what I had in mind. Something much smaller. Iron Man being what I had in mind. Body armour than can be used more as an active tool as in a weapon or allowing you to fly.




I am sorry. Not an expert in this field. Did a little research and came up with the term 'mind uploading' into something. This doesn't quite explain the technology I would want in Andromeda as well as 'digitizing biolifeforms' or 'digitizing personalities' does.

The Halo powered armor is much more like the Iron Man suit and much less like ME's mechs.

Halo mjolnir armor (and all variants for Halo lore fan nickpickers) is a fusion powered body suit that Spartan (genetically enhanced) supersoldiers wear. It is put on by a machine apparatus, because it is too heavy for a human, even a genetically enhanced one, to put on. Once on, it stays on until removed again via machine. It enhances strength, agility, speed, mental acuity, targeting speed and accuracy. It is literally like the Iron Man suit, except it can't fly.

In Mass Effect, the armor is similarly powered, enhancing agility, strength, and biotic ability - but to a lesser degree than the Halo armor. Mass Effect spacesuits dont just protect you against the cold of space, they are much more than that.

The concept is similar, and honestly very, very realistic. Our militaries are actively researching combat skins today. No doubt, such technology will become inseparable from military conflict in the future.

[BabyPuncher]

The concept is similar, and honestly very, very realistic. Our militaries are actively researching combat skins today. No doubt, such technology will become inseparable from military conflict in the future.

 

Which one?

 

Thousand-pound Halo suits? I seriously doubt it. Raises questions on why Master Chief experiences any recoil from firearms at all. Or why he doesn't squash any enemy he lands on. Anyway, at that level of density, I have troubling imagining a suit being fast or agile.

 

Iron Man suit kind of plays fast and loose with the suit. Which is fine. I think there's a maturity in realizing you're making a superhero movie, not a documentary. But it's light enough to be carried in a briefcase-thingy and yet strong enough to withstand a direct hit from a tank round without Stark even being injured? That's just not happening.
 

[malloc]

-A futuristic dagger/sword/katana/chakram/sai like weapon for melee combat (or for throwing/using them in a blue/green/yellow whatever aura)

 

*Teleports behind*

*Unsheathes Katana*

[Kabooooom]

Which one?

Thousand-pound Halo suits? I seriously doubt it. Raises questions on why Master Chief experiences any recoil from firearms at all. Or why he doesn't squash any enemy he lands on. Anyway, at that level of density, I have troubling imagining a suit being fast or agile.

Iron Man suit kind of plays fast and loose with the suit. Which is fine. I think there's a maturity in realizing you're making a superhero movie, not a documentary. But it's light enough to be carried in a briefcase-thingy and yet strong enough to withstand a direct hit from a tank round without Stark even being injured? That's just not happening.

No, the sentence immediately prior to that one created the context for the one you decided to address. I meant the larger concept of a combat suit or combat skin, in general, is a very realistic future military technology. We are developing primitive versions of such things right now.

I imagine, if I were to guess, that the first true combat ready exo "suits" will simply be an external skeletal framework and a HUD linked to weapons. This is essentially what exists right now, but the usefulness is limited by the absence of a truly long term portable power source. Over time, as power sources become more efficient and more miniaturized, and as robotics and materials engineering become ever more advanced, the suits will become something more akin to a full-body exosuit. The final step in this technology will undoubtedly utilize a cybernetic interface, seamlessly integrating perception and performance of the suit. Already we have very primitive technology that can do this.

Each is a relatively minor technological leap from the last, and I can quite easily see such things being indispensible and highly lethal killing machines of the future.

[BabyPuncher]

I imagine, if I were to guess, that the first true combat ready exo "suits" will simply be an external skeletal framework and a HUD linked to weapons.

 

To accomplish what? What practical advantages would this give?

 

More powerful weapons? Maybe, but what's the point? It would be complete overkill against infantry and yet still unable to touch any serious armor or fortifications. You might have some applications against very light armor and very vulnerable aircraft, but that's a whole lot of 'ifs.'

[Valkyrja]

*Teleports behind*

*Unsheathes Katana*

 

*senses the air displacement from your teleport*

*smirks, adjusts fedora, and effortlessly dodges your blow*

 

Predictable.  Tssk, tssk.

[RIPRemusTheTurian]

Retractable helmets, similar to Dead Space.

[malloc]

*senses the air displacement from your teleport*
*smirks, adjusts fedora, and effortlessly dodges your blow*
 
Predictable.  Tssk, tssk.

*touches the floor to switch momentum but he is too heavy and just flails about like a drowning fish*

You're good.

[animedreamer]

The shadow can't do it unless you count SS as being actual teleportation rather than simply game mechanics, but many of the biotic MP characters (and Banshees) can warp through walls.

I pretty sure i remember reading somewhere it specifically mentioned that they use the same technology that the ships use for FTL. 

[Nitrocuban]

I might have posted it a couple of times before, but how about a Geth with miniaturized eezo core for short ranged fast traveling?

You know, like a Tech Vanguard with powers like "Core Discharge" and stuff?

[Feybrad]

Cyborgs. Brain-to-Extranet Interfaces. Cyborgs. And more Cyborgs. And I mean actual Cyborgs, not Shepard-Cyborgs. With Machine Thingies in their Bodies.

[RoboticWater]

Cyborgs. Brain-to-Extranet Interfaces. Cyborgs. And more Cyborgs. And I mean actual Cyborgs, not Shepard-Cyborgs. With Machine Thingies in their Bodies.

As much as I like the idea, it's leans a bit too close to Cyberpunk than classical sci-fi (which is what Mass Effect based on).

[Kabooooom]

To accomplish what? What practical advantages would this give?

More powerful weapons? Maybe, but what's the point? It would be complete overkill against infantry and yet still unable to touch any serious armor or fortifications. You might have some applications against very light armor and very vulnerable aircraft, but that's a whole lot of 'ifs.'

Nuclear weapons are similarly complete overkill. Here's the thing about human nature and war - if we can make a more powerful and more efficient killing machine, we will do it. If someone ELSE can make it, we will try to make it twice as fast. Never underestimate how unbelievably fucked up we are as a species.

Future applications can only really be speculated about. The CURRENT applications that the military is actively researching exosuits for are for increased strength/mobility (allowing soldiers to carry loads far heavier than they normally could without a decrease in mobility). Independent research is ongoing with regards to seamless integration of sensory information with weaponry/suit sensors. So, its not like I came up with these ideas. It's your tax dollars at work (assuming you are Amurrikun - fuckkkk yeah freedom and bitches represent). The fact that any of this is even public knowledge in the first place is somewhat surprising to me.

The former is obviously limited by current energy tech. I dont really see battle exoskeletons being common place anytime soon. The latter has massive application, even without integrating sensory information from a suit and just from the gun itself. The next generation of weaponry will probably incorporate HUD's with a soldier's helmet, visual augmentation, and targeting correction automatically, allowing any soldier to be brutally efficient at killing in any terrain, windspeed/environmental hazard, or time of day.

[Sartoz]

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We know from Bio, that there will be biotics, weapons and good armour.

 

My take is we will be using some new Powers+Skills. Plus new weapons and new armour from raiding Remnant caches. From such raids we can expect to see  slug throwers with enhanced ammo + damagage capabilities, energy weapons with improved charges and damage, better shields with improved recovery times, cool-down upgrades, armour boosting skills+health... etc.

 

In other words, same old same old but with a different name.

 

Combat has a twist. It appears that the teaser shows the soldier class with a jump attack skill and he's using the OMNI-TOOL as a weapon. Looks cool, too.  The realist in me says you just exposed your bare butt to the wind. Once up there, you become easy pickings.

 

[Afro_Explosion]

Eezo toilet brush.