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[Ahriman]

Proper genetic modifications. Soldiers which can jump like frogs, see in the dark and regenerate limbs. People who live for hundreds of years. Possibilities are endless.

Though I guess it'll never happen. Gene Purity is sacred in ME for some reason.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Proper genetic modifications. Soldiers which can jump like frogs, see in the dark and regenerate limbs. People who live for hundreds of years. Possibilities are endless.

Though I guess it'll never happen. Gene Purity is sacred in ME for some reason.

 

That's because genetics or biology don't work that way. ^^

[Sartoz]

That's because genetics or biology don't work that way. ^^

 

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Read the Takeshi Kovacs novels by Richard K Morgan:

Altered Crbon

Broken Angels

Woken Furies.

 

Here the premise is a person's consciousness can be stored in a cortical stack at the base of the brain and easily downloaded into a new body, called a "sleeve". Genetic advancement allows for specialized combat bodies such as improved immunity to radiation, chamelion like traits, see in the infrared spectrum...etc... ready and waiting for a new owner whose stack is removed from the dead body and put in a new one.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Yes, that wouldn't work at all.

 

It's fiction and not even good one.

[Ahriman]

That's because genetics or biology don't work that way. ^^

And why exactly?

[DaemionMoadrin]

And why exactly?

 

Well, several reasons.

 

Let's start with the soldier who can jump like a frog. First problem is the square-cube-law, even a human sized frog wouldn't be able to jump in the same manner as a frog. Let's say a 5cm frog can jump as high as 5 times its height, then a human sized (1.80m) frog is supposed to jump 9 meters high. There are all kinds of physics involved here that prevent that, from air resistance to energy necessary to move that mass.

 

Next problem is part of that: The power to move a human in such a way is also enough to break a human. That means the entire body, all the bones and muscles and sinews have to be changed, the neck needs to be reinforced and the brain needs be able to calculate those jumps. You can't just splice in genes from a frog to achieve that, you have to change human genome itself. There are bound to be side effects. Best case scenario: The soldier can jump great distances but can't walk upright anymore, is infertile and his organs needed to be downsized to make way for the increased muscle mass.

 

Nightvision is more realistic and by that I mean with a lot of work and research, trial studies and experiments... we might be able to add low light amplification to human eyes in about 70-80 years without crippling the human being in the process.

 

Btw... chameleons don't work that way either.

[shodiswe]

Teleportation seems to be a thing.. given that some ME characters can do it... Granted, it's MP characters... But it's part of the ME Universe all the same. It's short range though... Who knows if longer ranges could be possible through technology...maybe... If nothing else.. The Remnant might have had such Tech.

[Ahriman]

Hmph, you are about that. No need to take my words so literally. Improving bone and muscle structure so soldier with full equipment would jump like olympic athlets is tootally feasible.

 

 

Nightvision is more realistic and by that I mean with a lot of work and research, trial studies and experiments... we might be able to add low light amplification to human eyes in about 70-80 years without crippling the human being in the process.

And it's 2200 out there.

 

 

Btw... chameleons don't work that way either. 

What?

[DaemionMoadrin]

Hmph, you are about that. No need to take my words so literally. Improving bone and muscle structure so soldier with full equipment would jump like olympic athlets is tootally feasible.

And it's 2200 out there.

What?

 

How else am I supposed to take written words, if not literally?

 

It's much easier and effective to just use cybernetic eyes than trying to mess with our genetic code.

 

"Contrary to popular belief, chameleons don't change their colors to blend in with their surroundings. In fact, although their natural camouflage serves several purposes, the primary function of the color shift is to alert neighbors of danger.

Most chameleons and some species of anole and gecko lizards are able to change their skin color to some degree. There are approximately 160 species of chameleons, but not all of them are able to switch to brilliant shades[..]. Many species, such as the Namaqua Chameleon and Brygoo's Chameleon, can only turn from brown or gray to green and back again.

Chameleons take on shades that are within the range of colors that their species has evolved to possess, and these hues can include everything from aquamarine blue to pale pink and even patterned stripes and spots. Other chameleon species are limited to shifting between only a few specific colors, such as red, yellow and green.

Color-changing lizards have a transparent outer skin, with several layers of skin underneath. These layers contain tightly connected cells called chromatophores, which reflect light and are full of the natural pigment melanin . When a lizard experiences changes in body temperature, mood or stress levels, neurotransmitters signal specific chromatophore cells to contract or expand.

The speed at which a lizard changes its color varies, but "under the right conditions, it may take only seconds," said Jonathan A. Campbell, chairperson of the biology department at the University of Texas at Arlington and researcher of herpetology, or the study of amphibians and reptiles. "Sometimes, such as with slow temperature change, color changes more slowly."

For example, when the sun is rising after a cold night, a normally light brown chameleon's chromatophores will expand, causing its skin to take on a dense, dark chocolate color that will absorb light and warm the lizard's body. If the lizard becomes too hot after baking in the afternoon sun, its dark chromatophores will contract, diminishing the brown pigmentation and allowing the chameleon's lighter, tan skin color to shine through, reflecting the sun's rays.

Changing colors is also a way of communicating. The males of some chameleon species will change color when they are preparing to fight, Campbell said. For example, when a Panther Chameleon which is normally blue or green with a white horizontal stripe becomes angry or feels threatened, its red chromatophores fully expand, blocking out the green and blue colors in the skin layers underneath. The vivid reds act as a warning to other chameleons that they should stay away.

Chameleons also use colors to broadcast their sexual availability. A male Panther Chameleon looking for a mate will show off a colorful mix of blue, green, orange, yellow, red and white in an effort to impress females . Female Panther Chameleons, which are generally tan brown with pink or coral accents, turn dark brown or black with orange stripes when they are pregnant, sending a clear signal to males that they aren't interested in mating."

[Ahriman]

But... but.. I didn't ask about camouflage.

 

 

How else am I supposed to take written words, if not literally? 

You got me.

Spoiler

[DaemionMoadrin]

But... but.. I didn't ask about camouflage.

 

What other chameleon like traits would you want then? Soldiers who can turn black when angry? Oh, you mean the eyes, right? Or the prehensile tail?

[Ahriman]

What other chameleon like traits would you want then? Soldiers who can turn black when angry? Oh, you mean the eyes, right? Or the prehensile tail?

I never mentioned a chameleon. 

[SNascimento]

Proper genetic modifications. Soldiers which can jump like frogs, see in the dark and regenerate limbs. People who live for hundreds of years. Possibilities are endless.

Though I guess it'll never happen. Gene Purity is sacred in ME for some reason.

Because Mass Effect isn't about that and therefore there is a huge risk of such things be trivialized. How many other sci-fi works doesn't have them?

[DaemionMoadrin]

I never mentioned a chameleon. 

 

Oh, sorry. That was Sartoz. Well... nice weather today, isn't it? *whistles*

[Ahriman]

Because Mass Effect isn't about that and therefore there is a huge risk of such things be trivialized. 

As it should be, for those who are ready to lose their genetic compability.

 

 

How many other sci-fi works doesn't have them?

Like hundreds?

[SNascimento]

As it should be, for those who are ready to lose their genetic compability.

You mean, in the game's universe? You might be right, given enough time you start to take technologies for granted. But MEA is a game, so it might feel wrong to have this kind of thing that the game makes no big deal of. 

I suppose they also might make it work. I wouldn't mind it, but I'm confident it won't be there. Not to any big extend though, like just in the original trilogy. 

[Para9on So1dier]

Jet packs, so many times back in ME3 MP on Firebase Ghost when I wanted to follow Cerberus into those high bunkers they used to hide in, I suppose lobbing in a grenade works just as well but still.

 

And all weapons should have the option to use a laser sight like the Phalanx in ME2.

[Indigenous]

The Halo powered armor is much more like the Iron Man suit and much less like ME's mechs.

Halo mjolnir armor (and all variants for Halo lore fan nickpickers) is a fusion powered body suit that Spartan (genetically enhanced) supersoldiers wear. It is put on by a machine apparatus, because it is too heavy for a human, even a genetically enhanced one, to put on. Once on, it stays on until removed again via machine. It enhances strength, agility, speed, mental acuity, targeting speed and accuracy. It is literally like the Iron Man suit, except it can't fly.

In Mass Effect, the armor is similarly powered, enhancing agility, strength, and biotic ability - but to a lesser degree than the Halo armor. Mass Effect spacesuits dont just protect you against the cold of space, they are much more than that.

The concept is similar, and honestly very, very realistic. Our militaries are actively researching combat skins today. No doubt, such technology will become inseparable from military conflict in the future.

I don't understand. Are you saying, because it is in Halo it cant be in Mass Effect?

 

I still haven't played Halo btw.

 

Yes, the idea of power armour is pretty vague, but I am talking about super mechs (I hope that is what they are called) and iron man suits. Pretty much weapons you can wear. Or armours that have other more active uses, like flight.

 

It would be cool if we could just rock the super mech look whenever we wanted to. Maybe a super mech could be a companion. If we wanted to take it on a mission it could take the place of a companion or two. I recall the time we were able to use a super mech in Mass Effect.

[Jorji Costava]

In response to the OP: Maybe some kind of tech that confers telepathic or improved empathic capabilities? It could be the basis for interesting gameplay mechanics (think the CASIE augmentation from Deus Ex: Human Revolution).

[themikefest]

I wouldn't mind having Thermal Imaging googles.  It can be switched to white hot or black hot depending on what the user prefers

[Sartoz]

I don't understand. Are you saying, because it is in Halo it cant be in Mass Effect?

 

I still haven't played Halo btw.

 

Yes, the idea of power armour is pretty vague, but I am talking about super mechs (I hope that is what they are called) and iron man suits. Pretty much weapons you can wear. Or armours that have other more active uses, like flight.

 

It would be cool if we could just rock the super mech look whenever we wanted to. Maybe a super mech could be a companion. If we wanted to take it on a mission it could take the place of a companion or two. I recall the time we were able to use a super mech in Mass Effect.

 

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Read the Posleen Wars(Aldenata) by military science fiction writer John Ringo. He uses human equipped power armour quiet well in battles. Makes the ME armour  look like a picnic by comparison.

 

All this to say there are many ways to write a story and battles with tech gear at your side.

[Sartoz]

Oh, sorry. That was Sartoz. Well... nice weather today, isn't it? *whistles*

 

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Lol.

Forgot to mention that one character trait of a chameleon is the ability to climb walls and another become invisible. hehe.

[Sartoz]

Well, several reasons.

 

Let's start with the soldier who can jump like a frog. First problem is the square-cube-law, even a human sized frog wouldn't be able to jump in the same manner as a frog. Let's say a 5cm frog can jump as high as 5 times its height, then a human sized (1.80m) frog is supposed to jump 9 meters high. There are all kinds of physics involved here that prevent that, from air resistance to energy necessary to move that mass.

 

Next problem is part of that: The power to move a human in such a way is also enough to break a human. That means the entire body, all the bones and muscles and sinews have to be changed, the neck needs to be reinforced and the brain needs be able to calculate those jumps. You can't just splice in genes from a frog to achieve that, you have to change human genome itself. There are bound to be side effects. Best case scenario: The soldier can jump great distances but can't walk upright anymore, is infertile and his organs needed to be downsized to make way for the increased muscle mass.

 

Nightvision is more realistic and by that I mean with a lot of work and research, trial studies and experiments... we might be able to add low light amplification to human eyes in about 70-80 years without crippling the human being in the process.

 

Btw... chameleons don't work that way either.

 

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LOL...

 

Here I was thinking that the ME universe ia all about fiction and space adventures...  

 

Hmm... have you ever watched the Underwolrd series?. These vampire femme fatales could jump from very tall church spires to the ground without breaking a bone. What's a simple chameleon jump between friends...?

[DaemionMoadrin]

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LOL...

 

Here I was thinking that the ME universe ia all about fiction and space adventures...  

 

Hmm... have you ever watched the Underwolrd series?. These vampire femme fatales could jump from very tall church spires to the ground without breaking a bone. What's a simple chameleon jump between friends...?

 

Well, Underworld (Kate Beckinsale in tight latex is yummy) is fantasy, not sci-fi... no matter how they dress it up.

 

Mass Effect pretends to be sci-fi but is fantasy in space instead. Hence, Space Magic™.

 

If you want proper science-fiction, then you can't change the rules all over the place because then you remove the science part.