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[Jeniva]

I love both Fenris and Anders. I've romanced them both in different play throughs. It's not hard to have a friend mance with Fenris as a mage, just dont take him along to quests where you're going to be supporting the mages. 

In one game Hawke slept with Fenris then slept with Anders and staid with Anders. It kind of pee's me off Fenris then goes and sleeps with isabella. Just be msierable and alone, jeese. 

I love some of the Anders dialogue, such as he never dared to love as a mage - or something along those lines. I find his romance very passionate. Those weird noises he makes in their first kiss... 
Tbh I love Ander's character despite a lot of hate from other people. 

[Qun00]

That's kind of cheating, isn't it? Ha ha.

I romanced Morrigan, but I had to leave her out of a lot of quests because she disapproves of anything morally good.

So it's pretty much like preventing the LI from fully knowing your character.

[Yaroub]

That's kind of cheating, isn't it? Ha ha.

I romanced Morrigan, but I had to leave her out of a lot of quests because she disapproves of anything morally good.

So it's pretty much like preventing the LI from fully knowing your character.

 

Once you've maxed the friendship in da2, you wont have disapproval points no matter what, and the same for rivalry, in act 1 specially you can have a lot of friendship points with Anders, as he wont be loco at that early stage, so recruit him as soon as possible and have him with you most of the time. for his approval you have to know that his a good guy at the beginning, but when it comes to magic related stuff he'll become radical.

 

So you can have him as much as you like, even make him disapprove with you at points you feel necessary, as his friendship points are easily gained.

 

The same for Fenris, but slightly harder, the guy wont show any mercy toward magic conversations, try to have a lot of friendship points from both early on, as the game advance in acts, the whole game will become about magic stuff.

[Sexxibrunette]

Fenris with High approval will support you no matter what and makes a point to stay with you till the end.

 

Anders hides his motives from the start & stabs you in the back in the end for the "cause"

[GranfalloonMembr]

Here's how I compare the two:

 

ANDERS: Spends most of the game trying to help his fellow mages escape what we see firsthand is terrible abuse at the hands of templars. We see that Karl would rather die than go back to being Tranquil, which should give everybody an idea of how bad it is. This is something that's done to mages all the time, and we learn that Tranquil mages are abused by templars afterwards. In the case of Ser Alrik, they are sexually abused.

 

He feels guilty when he almost kills an innocent person as Justice. In the prequel story written by Jennifer Hepler, we see that he isn't comfortable with what he's become.

 

It's only near the end when he blows up the Chantry that he does anything really inexcusable.

 

FENRIS: Spends most of the game hating all mages. His attitude towards the nice ones like Mage!Hawke, Bethany, or Merrill seems to be "Yeah, you think you're in control, but you aren't. It's only a matter of time before you get possessed by a demon, or before your power corrupts you." He thinks that all mages should be under tight control. He is advocating what basically amounts to mage slavery despite the fact that he himself used to be a slave and shouldn't be wishing a similar fate on anybody.

 

And, as awful as it is that Anders killed so many innocents in the Chantry, Fenris goes one step further by wholeheartedly supporting Meredith's decision to use the Rite of Annulment and kill all the mages. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the number of innocent mages who would die at templar hands would be greater than the number of innocent clergy who were in the Chantry.

 

In conclusion: I spent the whole game frustrated with Fenris and his refusal to see reason. I spent most of the game liking and trying to help Anders, and as horrified as I was by what he did and how he betrayed my trust (and I was in a romance with him, which made it even worse), I couldn't bring myself to execute him.

 

My opinion: Fenris is worse than Anders. Also, up until the final act, Anders is a much better person than Fenris.

 

Yes, I feel sorry for Fenris, having been a slave and enduring torture and humiliation his whole life. But that doesn't mean I'll excuse everything that he says or does, particularly not when it causes suffering for others.

[The Smiling Bandit]

Neither! Be a celibate heroine. Well you don't have to be celibate, I suppose you could still have sex, just not with Anders or Fenris.

[Illegitimus]

Me, I'd romance Anders and then kill him when he betrays me.  'Cause that's just how I roll.  

[sylvanaerie]

Depending on what personality type you are going for on Hawke, and what type of romance you want, it can be interesting.  I could never stomach Anders at all, hated him in my group and only took him along for the portions of the game I had to.  I can't advise for or against him, other voices are better heeded than mine.

 

For Fenris, I found Diplomatic mage LadyHawke + Rivaled Fenris to be very interesting. Yes, it was "I hate mages" but Lily held her own arguing with him that his hate/rage was going to destroy him--and instead of his mage hate, the relationship was more about his 'anger issues' (or that's how it felt anyway). IT certainly added new depth outside the usual "Grrr arrgh, mages." he usually puts forth.  I chose pacifistic answers and forgave everyone I could at each point in the game when I had an option to do so.  The relationship with Fenris was a fun one with her, and his final words to LIly in the game were incredibly touching, and my favorite of the three romances I did do.  Gaider did a wonderful job with the character.  I also enjoyed romancing him with a sassy sarcastic Male Hawke rogue (again Rivaled).  Although I know male hawke was not something you were interested in.  The sarcastic/charming Hawke was more about trying to get him to lighten up and try to enjoy life more, stop being so full of himself.