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[Jef The Reaper]

well the game has a armor color system now, what I absolutely love!

but the problem is my awsome Blackwall in actual grey warden armor is still running around with a pink grey warden tower shield and a red sword... yeah, reminds me of sten's funny rainbow sword prank gift from origins.

 

additional to the armor tinting, it would be VERY welcome we could change the color of our weapons to so we don't have the run around with rainbow gear, most of my stuff has the most odd colors due to using masterwork items (that sometimes take priority over the metal you use)

using the masterwork item that gets you walking fortress on hit turned my shield pink :-/

[andy6915]

This is why crafting is so useful, you can make a weapon with a more serious color.

[Jef The Reaper]

This is why crafting is so useful, you can make a weapon with a more serious color.

Actually I am crafting, but the point is I have 2 choices,

1 create a pink shield with amazing stats.

2 create a shield with a proper color, but much weaker stats.

 

its we can already color armors, would be nice if we could color the weapons to, that way I can make a proper set of weapons AND give them a serious look.

[caradoc2000]

Pink is the official color of the Pinquisition, you can't change that.

[Jef The Reaper]

Pink is the official color of the Pinquisition, you can't change that.

They really should, I mean you can recolor armor, why not weapons to?

Currently I like most of the game, but its so bothering to have weird weapons, I pitty the people who were playing the game prior to the patch that lets you change your armor as well, must have been one heck of a rainbow party everybody had.

[andy6915]

Actually I am crafting, but the point is I have 2 choices,
1 create a pink shield with amazing stats.
2 create a shield with a proper color, but much weaker stats.

its we can already color armors, would be nice if we could color the weapons to, that way I can make a proper set of weapons AND give them a serious look.

...Why is that your only choices? There's at least two dozen tier 3 metals, all if varying colors. If the area you're at now doesn't have better, then you're just be too lazy to go find other materials. In fact, is the pink material dawnstone? If so, there's silverite all over that area too (snowy "Du Lion" place). Get looking, find better instead of complaining.

[Pressedcat]

...Why is that your only choices? There's at least two dozen tier 3 metals, all if varying colors. If the area you're at now doesn't have better, then you're just be too lazy to go find other materials. In fact, is the pink material dawnstone? If so, there's silverite all over that area too (snowy "Du Lion" place). Get looking, find better instead of complaining.

The point was that master-crafting with fade-touched materials overrides the normal colour of the weapon. Since fade-touched materials can be hard to come by and don't always offer the wanted effects, I think it's an entirely valid issue to raise.

[Jef The Reaper]

...Why is that your only choices? There's at least two dozen tier 3 metals, all if varying colors. If the area you're at now doesn't have better, then you're just be too lazy to go find other materials. In fact, is the pink material dawnstone? If so, there's silverite all over that area too (snowy "Du Lion" place). Get looking, find better instead of complaining.

first off, its not about being lazy or not,

its about making a request to bioware about bringing weapon tinting similar to armor tinting, its far from impossible and makes sense, if you don't want weapon tinting, don't use it when it gets added to the game, but other people do want it.

 

second, I don't have a choice,

I am trying to craft weapons with a masterwork material giving me walking fortress by chance if I land a hit/get hit, problem is the shield does not color by the metal I use, but by the masterwork item I use, and turns the shield pink.

 

Third, DAI is a game with strong graphics, it would be idiotic to say looks don't matter for this game as it sacrificed a large amount of gameplay it could have had in trade for those graphics.

If your fine with running around in a rainbow armor with pink weapons then that's fine for you, but I don't like it one bit.

[c0bra951]

The problem is that shields are classified as weapons.  They really should be available at the armor-tinting table, even if actual weapons aren't.

 

In my last playthrough, Blackwall's top warden shield turned crimson red from the masterwork item--I forget now what it did.  [Oh yeah, this.]  So I tinted the rest of his armor the same color, with complementing colors for leather and cloth.  Not my first choice, but better than the alternative.  Pink, though . . .

Modifié par c0bra951, 26 juillet 2015 - 05:06 .

[Jef The Reaper]

The problem is that shields are classified as weapons.  They really should be available at the armor-tinting table, even if actual weapons aren't.

they should just all be available at the tinting table, I don't see why they did not do that in the first place.

 

I did not have a problem with it at first, I mean having everyone carrying around pure gold weapons was kinda badass, but it loses its touch when its overused, leave alone some colors never even get used simply as they are bound by the lowest stats in the game.

[andy6915]

first off, its not about being lazy or not,

its about making a request to bioware about bringing weapon tinting similar to armor tinting, its far from impossible and makes sense, if you don't want weapon tinting, don't use it when it gets added to the game, but other people do want it.

 

second, I don't have a choice,

I am trying to craft weapons with a masterwork material giving me walking fortress by chance if I land a hit/get hit, problem is the shield does not color by the metal I use, but by the masterwork item I use, and turns the shield pink.

 

Third, DAI is a game with strong graphics, it would be idiotic to say looks don't matter for this game as it sacrificed a large amount of gameplay it could have had in trade for those graphics.

If your fine with running around in a rainbow armor with pink weapons then that's fine for you, but I don't like it one bit.

 

Which masterwork? Sometimes you can stick a masterwork that will give you a crappy color on your armor and then change it at the tinting table, and use a hopefully less colorful masterwork on your weapon. Use the awful colored masterwork for the armor, and a better color for the weapon. Unless both the masterworks you want are stupid colored?

 

And where did I say rainbow gear is good? I gave you advice on how to get better colors, I didn't say "use pink and stop complaining". I said "find better colors and stop complaining". Big difference.

[Sunnie]

Which masterwork? Sometimes you can stick a masterwork that will give you a crappy color on your armor and then change it at the tinting table, and use a hopefully less colorful masterwork on your weapon. Use the awful colored masterwork for the armor, and a better color for the weapon. Unless both the masterworks you want are stupid colored?

 

And where did I say rainbow gear is good? I gave you advice on how to get better colors, I didn't say "use pink and stop complaining". I said "find better colors and stop complaining". Big difference.

Except he isn't talking about Armor, he's talking about weapons/shields. You can not choose a color on weapons/shields if you are looking for specific enhancements.

[andy6915]

Except he isn't talking about Armor, he's talking about weapons/shields.

Are you dense? You can put a masterwork on both weapon and armor, and I'm telling him to put the pink masterwork on armor so his weapon isn't the pink object. Is that really a hard concept? Is that off topic? No, to both questions.

[Sunnie]

Actually, I think you're being a bit dense. He doesn't want a pink shield, he said nothing about his armor, he just wants to be able to use the masterwork rune that gives him Walking Fortress, and then change the color to something other than the pink that is forced upon the shield by the material used. This has nothing to do with recoloring his armor, his shield will STILL BE PINK.

[Jef The Reaper]

Which masterwork? Sometimes you can stick a masterwork that will give you a crappy color on your armor and then change it at the tinting table, and use a hopefully less colorful masterwork on your weapon. Use the awful colored masterwork for the armor, and a better color for the weapon. Unless both the masterworks you want are stupid colored?

 

And where did I say rainbow gear is good? I gave you advice on how to get better colors, I didn't say "use pink and stop complaining". I said "find better colors and stop complaining". Big difference.

I don't see how that is actually important at all, but if you have to know

 

warden tower shield:

 

-masterwork: fade touched dawnstone (turns the shield pink) 10% chance to grant 5 seconds of walking fortress

 

-and 1 dragon bone + 2 stone hearts to get 32 armor rating (front) and 17% melee defense.

 

usually the dragon bone should turn the item gold (even tough I don't want that ether, I want it to match my silvertide warden outfit)

but for some reason some items adopt the color of the masterwork item instead.

 

even so its beside the point like I said, and you never end up with the color you want, unless of course I would want to settle with a shield of only 29 armor rating and no masterwork to get the silvertide color.

 

the entire point of requesting weapon tinting is to prevent pink shields and blood red sword hilts with ocean blue blade's while still keeping high stats to start with (like armor currently is like)

 

yes you gave me advice, but with all respect, I did not come here to ask advice, I came here to suggest weapon tinting to be added to the game in a future patch.

If the game was working perfectly fine I would be playing the game instead of complaining here :-/

and there is not really much to complain about as I really like the game, only 4 huge things that bother me is the skills in general (could use a major overhaul)

the fact you can't tint your weapons,

and the constant crashing and freezing of the game while overheating, even tough my current pc can handle the witcher 3.

and the whole dragon keep thing should just be a part of the game (like having you chose your past while varric is telling the story during the opening scene)

 

aside from all that, I love the game to death.

 

I also get what you are trying to say, If I put the masterwork on my armor it won't turn pink, but there are 2 problems with that

first is it won't solve the problem that weapons can't be tinted, if they are not pink, they are gold, or black or blue, basically ANY color I don't want them to be due to the best materials giving odd colors you usually don't want to have (for example, I want Iron bull to live up to his name and only have iron armor and weapon VISUALS, but I still want his stats of his armor and weapons to be of that of a dragonbone)

I can currently do that for the armor, but not the weapons

 

second problem is that my armor also has a masterwork to give me guard when I'm hit, Blackwall is being build as a walking shield in my game. and even if I switch around those masterworks it will still turn the shield in another color I don't want it to be, its not a solution.

[andy6915]

Actually, I think you're being a bit dense. He doesn't want a pink shield, he said nothing about his armor, he just wants to be able to use the masterwork rune that gives him Walking Fortress, and then change the color to something other than the pink that is forced upon the shield by the material used. This has nothing to do with recoloring his armor, his shield will STILL BE PINK.

 
PUT THE GODDAMN MASTERWORK ON THE GODDAMN ARMOR (caps for emphasis). Done! No pink shield, and you have pink armor that can be recolored at the tinting table. What the hell is the damn problem? Guess what people, I dealt with this problem myself last playthrough. You know how I dealt with it? I put the masterwork on my armor instead of the weapon and then changed the pink color, which is EXACTLY what I'm suggesting here. And what's the response?
 
"hur dur we not talk 'bout armor "
 
You don't want a pink masterwork, put it on the equipment you can actually recolor. It's that simple. How this is something I need to explain in this much detail, I have no idea.
 

I also get what you are trying to say, If I put the masterwork on my armor it won't turn pink, but there are 2 problems with that
first is it won't solve the problem that weapons can't be tinted, if they are not pink, they are gold, or black or blue, basically ANY color I don't want them to be due to the best materials giving odd colors you usually don't want to have (for example, I want Iron bull to live up to his name and only have iron armor and weapon VISUALS, but I still want his stats of his armor and weapons to be of that of a dragonbone)
I can currently do that for the armor, but not the weapons

second problem is that my armor also has a masterwork to give me guard when I'm hit, Blackwall is being build as a walking shield in my game. and even if I switch around those masterworks it will still turn the shield in another color I don't want it to be, its not a solution.

Where did I defend this gameplay aspect? No where. I just said that I had to deal with this exact same problem myself, and note that I did indeed just call it a "problem". Because it is. So I attempted to give an idea of how to work around it.

[Sunnie]

 
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Dude, you need to take a chill pill or something, you have been getting more and more hostile in your posts over the last couple weeks.

 

If he doesn't want to put Dawnstone on his armor because he is putting something else, or is stacking dawnstone on both shield and armor, he should be able to do that. His point is that he wants to be able to change the color of his shield, plain and simple. Matters not why he wants to change it, but he wants to be able to do that and I agree that he should be able to (the reasons I agree also don't matter).

[andy6915]

Dude, you need to take a chill pill or something, you have been getting more and more hostile in your posts over the last couple weeks.

Because I've been encountering more and more stupidity on here over the last couple of weeks.

[Jef The Reaper]

 
PUT THE GODDAMN MASTERWORK ON THE GODDAMN ARMOR (caps for emphasis). Done! No pink shield, and you have pink armor that can be recolored at the tinting table. What the hell is the damn problem? Guess what people, I dealt with this problem myself last playthrough. You know how I dealt with it? I put the masterwork on my armor instead of the weapon and then changed the pink color, which is EXACTLY what I'm suggesting here. And what's the response?
 
"hur dur we not talk 'bout armor "
 
You don't want a pink masterwork, put it on the equipment you can actually recolor. It's that simple. How this is something I need to explain in this much detail, I have no idea.
 

Where did I defend this gameplay aspect? No where. I just said that I had to deal with this exact same problem myself, and note that I did indeed just call it a "problem". Because it is. So I attempted to give an idea of how to work around it.

well that's the thing, I know how to work around it, I did not come to this forum to share and get backhand tactics to work around a problem, I came here to ask bioware to provide a fix similar to how they fixed the problem with the armor's, by making it possible to re-color them,

by my knowledge to how this works, it would just take a little while to create it for weapons to, considering they already have all existing textures and files they need, and they already have the basic system they created for the armors, it would take a few hours to make perhaps? depends on how the game's files work, but the point is all necessary files and textures already exist to do it.

 

I mean thank you for trying to provide aid, but unless you work for bioware your not going to be able to provide a solution here.

[Jef The Reaper]

Dude, you need to take a chill pill or something, you have been getting more and more hostile in your posts over the last couple weeks.

 

If he doesn't want to put Dawnstone on his armor because he is putting something else, or is stacking dawnstone on both shield and armor, he should be able to do that. His point is that he wants to be able to change the color of his shield, plain and simple. Matters not why he wants to change it, but he wants to be able to do that and I agree that he should be able to (the reasons I agree also don't matter).

thank you, but there is no need to try and talk him down,

my only hope is one of Bioware's staff sees this and actually patches it in the game,

pretty much nobody else here can do anything at the time except support the idea in the hope that bioware will be more motivated to add it to the game after seeing a lot of people would appreciate the ability to color there weapons like there armors to.

[andy6915]

thank you, but there is no need to try and talk him down,
my only hope is one of Bioware's staff sees this and actually patches it in the game,
pretty much nobody else here can do anything at the time except support the idea in the hope that bioware will be more motivated to add it to the game after seeing a lot of people would appreciate the ability to color there weapons like there armors to.

Don't hold your breath waiting, Bioware seems to have stopped caring about fixing minor stuff. There's still glitched armor models, glitched character models like the male elf Inquisitor, bad looking clothes like the Skyhold outfit... Lots of things that have needed fixing for a long time. It'd be nice, bit the chances are remote.

[Jef The Reaper]

Don't hold your breath waiting, Bioware seems to have stopped caring about fixing minor stuff. There's still glitched armor models, glitched character models like the male elf Inquisitor, bad looking clothes like the Skyhold outfit... Lots of things that have needed fixing for a long time. It'd be nice, bit the chances are remote.

we just need to make sure they hear us, thats all, or at least get them as far as to release a mod tool, to be honest by the looks of it I could solve half the problems the game has myself if I only had the tools.

Ether of both would be fine.

[c0bra951]

Regardless of the arguments, I think we can all agree that it's dumb to allow tinting on some gear, but not all.  Either we care about color coordination, or we don't.  If we don't, tinting is wholly unnecessary.  If we do, then a half-assed job doesn't satisfy.