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[Quarian Master Race]

I think I've played asaris like twice. I was embarrassingly derp and my 1337 tactics mostly involved wallhacking grenadespam with the AV because its a familiar quarian tactic that I can do. 

 

Anyway, all of mine are 1/2 quarian. They're extra smart, technically adept and also better at making soup than other asaris.

[LemurFromTheId]

2. Vanilla adept is good and powerful but quite boring IMO. I tend to get more mileage out of human sentinel if I want explosions.

 

You're entitled to your opinions of course, but that one I really can't agree with. I'll try to explain why.

 

Most people see AA as a BE spammer, a Stasis headhunter or - generally - a mixture of both. That's certainly the way I usually see her played. However, I think that looking at her with this mindset is very limiting.

 

For me the most important aspect that makes AA my favourite kit is that she always has numerous options in every single situation - there aren't many (if any) kits that are more versatile in this manner. All three of her powers can be used in several different ways for several different purposes, and the fact that they all share the same cooldown (no passive powers or cheap grenades) means that you need to make meaningful tactical decisions and planning every single second. (Well, maybe not need, but then you're not using the kit to its full potential.)

 

Throw can be used for detonating, throwing enemies from ledges, staggering enemies (to keep them from shooting you, to keep them away or to help set up a clean headshot), throwing a-bombs at your teammates and/or for finishing off injured targets.

 

Warp can be used detonating, staggering, damaging, debuffing and/or priming.

 

Stasis can be used for trapping, disabling, blocking and/or priming.

 

Every time your cooldown finishes, not only do you get to decide which power to use, but how to use it and which target to use it on. Many kits don't have all that many options. AA does, and that's what makes it the most interesting kit for me.

 

 

A simple example:

 

You're about enter a large room, when you notice there are 4 Centurions/Troopers/whatever spread inside.

 

A lot of people would use RHA, put one or two of them in Stasis and finish them with headshots, and then do the same to the others.

 

A pro would enter the room and put A and B in Stasis, dodge a bit, kill C with a headshot, stagger D with a Trow, kill D, detonate A and B still in Stasis and destroy their remains.

 

The first method is effective, but it's not particularly efficient, interesting or fun. The latter method is all that.

 

 

Another example:

 

You're doing a hack. An Atlas is about the enter the same room through a doorway.

 

Many people would wait for the Atlas to enter, then fight it with Warp-Throw BEs and weapons fire.

 

A pro could put a Stasis bubble in the doorway and catch a mook in it, thereby blocking the doorway and preventing the Atlas from entering the room and gaining line of sight. With good timing you could detonate the mook just before it drops out of stasis.

 

 

Compare all that to another adept: the Fury.

 

A spawn? Run in and Throw. A Phantom? Run in and Throw. Three Brutes? Run in and Throw. A bunch of Troopers? Run in and Throw. An Atlas? Run in and Throw. Husks? Run in and Throw. A squad of Pyros? Run in and Throw. A Prime, three Ravagers, seventeen Brutes, some lazy Cerberus soldiers, a swarm of Swarmers, five Hunters, 4 x 99 Barbarians, eight Praetorians and a Nemesis doing the Nemesis shuffle? Run in and Throw.

 

Occasionally lolstagger enemies with Venom, so you can run in and Throw. Teleport to safety whenever you don't feel quite comfortable. Then run in and Throw.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Your Fury has no Dark Channel? Weird example. That's like an AA without Warp.

 

I am not sure about your use of "efficient" in your first scenario. The most efficient way to clear the room would be by putting one target into Stasis, use a BE to kill two of the enemies heading your way, headshot the one in Stasis and then finish off the fourth... all while staying in cover (RHA). It isn't efficient to waste time dodging.

[LemurFromTheId]

Your Fury has no Dark Channel? Weird example. That's like an AA without Warp.

 

I am not sure about your use of "efficient" in your first scenario. The most efficient way to clear the room would be by putting one target into Stasis, use a BE to kill two of the enemies heading your way, headshot the one in Stasis and then finish off the fourth... all while staying in cover (RHA). It isn't efficient to waste time dodging.

 

You might be missing the point.

 

Lolno @ Warp/DC comparison. Warp is much more important to AA than DC is to Fury. It's also much more versatile.

 

I'm not sure I understand your example. Do you mean Stasis followed by Warp+Throw? That alone takes more time that what I suggested. And I don't see why you'd headshot the one in Stasis before finishing the last one that's actually able to shoot back. (This is something I see in PUG games all the time: AAs put one enemy in Stasis and immediately gun it down while taking fire from other nearby mooks. It just boggles my mind.)

 

Anyway, all that is unimportant, yet it highlights the point I was making: AA has lots of options and different ways to approach any situation, and it's not obvious which one is the best, as it all depends on multiple factors (and I didn't mean to imply that my example is the way to deal with the scenario, just one good way). A Fury would also have a few ways to approach the same situation, but not as many as AA - and any well-played Fury would just - you guessed it: run in and Throw.

 

Whether or not dodging wastes time depends on which weapon you're using and how you're timing it.

[FireRider100]

Wasn't originally keen on the asari as they are quite squishy, but I like the huntress with the dark channel and warp sniper rifle round into the enemy, plus the vanguard because she's great at squeezing the most out of nades, causing quite a large score-wh*ring explosion. Pistol with power amp on it for her.

 

The adept is most meh for me.

 

I'm going to state the obvious but this is one of the reasons why ME3 multiplayer is so great. People have different characters they enjoy playing with different weapon setups. Catering to the different play styles

[NuclearTech76]

Stasis + Cobra missle is the way true pros handle their ****. 

[Bud Halen]

Wasn't originally keen on the asari as they are quite squishy...

 

Justicar with Reave specced for protection and with Fitness through level 5 for recharge speed is a tank.  Even on Platinum.

I love her.  Don't need cyclonics 'cuz she pretty much is her own cyclonic.

 

Just sayin'

[Miniditka77]

Justicar with Reave specced for protection and with Fitness through level 5 for recharge speed is a tank.  Even on Platinum.

I love her.  Don't need cyclonics 'cuz she pretty much is her own cyclonic.

 

Just sayin'

 

The Justicar is my preferred class for Platinum, and one of the easiest Platinum classes out there (if you take away the OP stuff).  With Reave DR and that awesome dodge, she is very survivable, even without a Cyclonic.

[FireRider100]

Justicar with Reave specced for protection and with Fitness through level 5 for recharge speed is a tank.  Even on Platinum.

I love her.  Don't need cyclonics 'cuz she pretty much is her own cyclonic.

 

Just sayin'

 

Makes me wonder how often I actually see the Justicar in platinum matches; now and then, and the player is always bubbling up for biotic explosions.

I had assumed most players only played asari because they either wanted to be an asari and/or just enjoyed the view from behind.

[Tupari]

Make a salarian thread. 

[Bud Halen]

Makes me wonder how often I actually see the Justicar in platinum matches; now and then, and the player is always bubbling up for biotic explosions.

I had assumed most players only played asari because they either wanted to be an asari and/or just enjoyed the view from behind.

 

That can be a real drag playing with a Justicar on the team who thinks the character can function like a Fury.  So many revives.

 

I do love me some offensive bubble.  But you can't just run up and plop it down in the middle of an unprotected kill zone...and expect that there will be no follow-up.

 

This is why I find Geth Scanner so critical when I want to use her.  Judicious bubble deployment.

[stephenw32768]

I don't see why you'd headshot the one in Stasis before finishing the last one that's actually able to shoot back. (This is something I see in PUG games all the time: AAs put one enemy in Stasis and immediately gun it down while taking fire from other nearby mooks. It just boggles my mind.)

 

I can't speak for all the bad players you regularly encounter, only for myself; but in my case, it's because shooting things that aren't moving is considerably easier than shooting things that are

[Catastrophy]

That can be a real drag playing with a Justicar on the team who thinks the character can function like a Fury.  So many revives.

 

I do love me some offensive bubble.  But you can't just run up and plop it down in the middle of an unprotected kill zone...and expect that there will be no follow-up.

 

This is why I find Geth Scanner so critical when I want to use her.  Judicious bubble deployment.

Adrenaline - and the bubble always goes where the boss is. They like to get it in their butts.

[UKStory135]

My favorite is the AV with the Talon.

[Salarian Master Race]

Favourite Asari is probably the vanilla Adept.  I tend to run her with a shotgun, either the Wraith or the Claymore, but this one time I respecced her to 0/6/6/6/6 with AoE Throw and gave her a Krysae with Disruptor Ammo.

 

Shoot > Throw > Tech Burst > Shoot > Throw > Tech Burst > Shoot > Throw > Tech Burst > Reload > Throw for mass mook cc

or

Warp > Shoot > Shoot > Throw > Tech Burst > Shoot > Throw > Tech Burst > Reload > Throw > Biotic Explosion for bosses

 

IIRC, that is, as I've been retired for several months.  Stasis/Warp > Claymore also works.

 

Justicar is okay, but I don't play her as much on PC as I did on Console.

 

Valkyrie, I'd probably like more if Annihilation Field didn't bug out and show up when down and down when up.  Whenever I think I might want to play the Valkyrie, I remember that I have a Cabal to play instead.

 

Huntress, eh I think mine currently has a PPR equipped.  I could be wrong about that.  Haven't touched her in quite some time.

 

Vanguard is least played of them all.  Lift Grenades bounce off the map never to be seen again, and the AA can Stasis Snipe just as well.  Of course for sniping I'd rather have my Salarian Infiltrator, so the Vanguard does nothing for me that some other character couldn't do better.

[UKStory135]

Here is my AV build

http://kalence.drupa...34O52314!A39BGG

[stephenw32768]

I've been playing the Justicar with assault rifles and like her a lot better that way.  When I first unlocked her, GruntKitterhand gave me some playing tips and we discussed assault rifles; quite what possessed me to completely forget that and get "close-range shotgun kit" into my head is anyone's guess...

On Silver, the Avenger with level 1 warp ammo works nicely.  I took her into Gold yesterday with a Saber, kitted out thusly:
http://kalence.drupa...!33251383!GD3BG

Now, while I like the Saber a lot, I don't think I like it on her.  Even with 100% cooldown, I wasn't able to use powers as often as I wanted.  The game was Cerberus on Giant, and more than once I primed a fast-closing Dragoon with Reave, got a couple of shots in, but wasn't able to put the bubble up in time.

I had previously played a game as Huntress and my fingers still wanted to do Cloak+Dark Channel, so I kept pressing the triangle button expecting Cloak, deploying bubbles in completely random places

If I take her into Gold again, I might try the Mattock.

Also: unlocked the Valkyrie yesterday, so now I have all the asari.  Haven't played her yet.

[Asari Goddess]

^ you should try the asari adept with the cerberus harrier. it was one of the best thing i did LOL

 

but then again cerberus harrier is a great gun overall 

[The NightMan Cometh]

^^^ can you tell exactly how much you have had to drink tonight?

[Mordokai]

Also: unlocked the Valkyrie yesterday, so now I have all the asari.  Haven't played her yet.

 

 

Oh, we're gonna have some fun now...

[LemurFromTheId]

Also: unlocked the Valkyrie yesterday, so now I have all the asari.  Haven't played her yet.

 

Congratulations!

 

Recommended setups:

 

Awesome Valkyrie 1

Awesome Valkyrie 2

[Deerber]

You might be missing the point.

Lolno @ Warp/DC comparison. Warp is much more important to AA than DC is to Fury. It's also much more versatile.

I'm not sure I understand your example. Do you mean Stasis followed by Warp+Throw? That alone takes more time that what I suggested. And I don't see why you'd headshot the one in Stasis before finishing the last one that's actually able to shoot back. (This is something I see in PUG games all the time: AAs put one enemy in Stasis and immediately gun it down while taking fire from other nearby mooks. It just boggles my mind.)

Anyway, all that is unimportant, yet it highlights the point I was making: AA has lots of options and different ways to approach any situation, and it's not obvious which one is the best, as it all depends on multiple factors (and I didn't mean to imply that my example is the way to deal with the scenario, just one good way). A Fury would also have a few ways to approach the same situation, but not as many as AA - and any well-played Fury would just - you guessed it: run in and Throw.

Whether or not dodging wastes time depends on which weapon you're using and how you're timing it.

Tsk... You're just jelly that my Fury has a better butt than your beloved AA

[LemurFromTheId]

Tsk... You're just jelly that my Fury has a better butt than your beloved AA

 

Better? Nah. But it's pretty good, I'll give you that!

 

Of course, you might be able to convince me of your argument with sufficient pictorial evidence. (That Glacier/Reaper one won't do, seen it already.)

[Asari Goddess]

^^^ can you tell exactly how much you have had to drink tonight?

 

Not enough lol

[BloodBeforeTears]

I think I've played asaris like twice. I was embarrassingly derp and my 1337 tactics mostly involved wallhacking grenadespam with the AV because its a familiar quarian tactic that I can do. 

 

Anyway, all of mine are 1/2 quarian. They're extra smart, technically adept and also better at making soup than other asaris.

 

Yeah this pretty much describes my experience with asaris as well.  Better to look at on omega then to play with in ME3MP... but like another asari told me last night, I'm probably just doing it wrong, and that I should stop complaining and learn to do it right.