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NOTE: Apparently this is from some doucher fan made CDN site. Looked legit :/. It's still interesting though so I will keep it up.


So, I stumbled across this today from the Cerberus Daily News archives - a wormhole may be able to be created from a black hole using element zero. Furthermore, it is implied that this could be used for intergalactic travel.

We suspect the writers were toying with the idea of using a wormhole, probably to get to Andromeda, as they made a twitter post that was suggestive of it.

A further curiosity is that this method is straight up described as being a one way trip, with the result of time dilation transporting the travelers millions of years in the future.

It starts on 09/08/11 and there are several subsequent news stories. Here is the first one for you lazy types:

"During a news conference at the ongoing Volus Physical Society meeting on Irune, Volus scientist Darik Zol unveiled a new theory of how black holes could be used for interstellar travel. “It’s true,” said the press release, “black hole surroundings are vicious environments, whether it’s the million-solar-mass black hole at the Galactic center, or your regular run-of-the-mill ten-solar-mass black hole in the Galactic disk. But, by surrounding the black hole with a sphere of element zero, we could effectively turn it into a wormhole, opening a gate to a different part of the galaxy—or who knows, maybe even beyond"

And the relevant link for all of the news stories:

http://cdn.wikia.com..._September_2011
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Great find! Cheers, and ty for this insight!



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This may be our link to ME:A, wormhole travel via an ARK.

 

Perhaps they started planning ME:A before end of ME2.  Anywho, that's just speculation on my part.



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Nice. This is interesting. I'm wondering how you'd surround a black hole with a sphere of eezo though, that thing would have to be frigging huge.

 

But it's interesting to see that there is an anchor there, so set something up.

 

BTW, here is a link to all the CDN stories about this topic.


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This may be our link to ME:A, wormhole travel via an ARK.

 

Perhaps they started planning ME:A before end of ME2.  Anywho, that's just speculation on my part.

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Ehh... I'd prefer they take the long way.

 

But whatever.


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Sure, i'ts not like they haven't used worse plot devices anyway :lol:


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So, I stumbled across this today from the Cerberus Daily News archives - a wormhole may be able to be created from a black hole using element zero. Furthermore, it is implied that this could be used for intergalactic travel.

We suspect the writers were toying with the idea of using a wormhole, probably to get to Andromeda, as they made a twitter post that was suggestive of it.

A further curiosity is that this method is straight up described as being a one way trip, with the result of time dilation transporting the travelers millions of years in the future.

It starts on 09/08/11 and there are several subsequent news stories. Here is the first one for you lazy types:

"During a news conference at the ongoing Volus Physical Society meeting on Irune, Volus scientist Darik Zol unveiled a new theory of how black holes could be used for interstellar travel. “It’s true,” said the press release, “black hole surroundings are vicious environments, whether it’s the million-solar-mass black hole at the Galactic center, or your regular run-of-the-mill ten-solar-mass black hole in the Galactic disk. But, by surrounding the black hole with a sphere of element zero, we could effectively turn it into a wormhole, opening a gate to a different part of the galaxy—or who knows, maybe even beyond"

And the relevant link for all of the news stories:

http://cdn.wikia.com..._September_2011

"Na’ali Vasir, president of the Asari Physical Society, responded today to the press release issued by physicist Darik Zol, who claimed a black hole can be turned into a galaxy-crossing wormhole merely by surrounding it with a thin layer of element zero. “There are a number of problems with this theory. First of all, element zero must be electrically charged to provide a negative dark energy field—where’s all that electricity going to come from? Second, to make this work, you would have to cross into a high time dilation zone of the black hole, rendering it a one-way gate. And finally, what about peer review? There has been no article submitted to a reputable journal to describe this research, and without such vetting, we must remain highly skeptical of the results.”

 

"Responding to recent asari criticisms of his black hole theory, Dr. Darik Zol vowed that he will personally confirm it by venturing towards black hole A0620-00, in the Attican Traverse. Calling for element zero donations from the rest of his clan, the scientist professed his readiness to die for his cause. “By spreading the element zero dust in a spherical shell near the black hole, I will open a gate to whatever spacetime point this black hole is connected to. Not only will I usher a new era of discovery and wisdom for the galaxy, and honor for the volus race—I will also be the first to enter this wormhole.”

 

Physicist Darik Zol, claiming he has received “not ideal, but sufficient” donations of element zero dust to open a wormhole around black hole A0620-00, departed today amid fanfare and heartfelt cheering from the general public on Irune. Ten Volus merchant scouts accompanied Dr. Zol as honor guards to the nearest mass relay. Dr. Zol is attempting to open a wormhole to another part of the galaxy by spreading charged element zero dust in the vicinity of the event horizon. Responding to public worries, council representatives noted that that due to gravitational time dilation around the black hole, the results of Dr. Zol’s experiments will not be known for another one or two million years. “He is essentially going on a one-way suicide mission,” said the statement from the council secretariat, adding: “it’s a sad day for science.”

 

You know what,  this is an explanation I could accept for being in another galaxy, why it's a one way trip, and even why the Reapers didn't follow (they're not that crazy)

 

Yes, they've used worse plot devices.  :D

 

Pity he only took ten other volus with him


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Looks like this solves all the lore problems, all right. Except for the question of why nobody from the Milky Way -- whichever cycle beat the Reapers -- made it to Andromeda. But that one's simple; the standard handwave is that everyone ascended to a higher plane of existence..

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So, I stumbled across this today from the Cerberus Daily News archives - a wormhole may be able to be created from a black hole using element zero. Furthermore, it is implied that this could be used for intergalactic travel.

We suspect the writers were toying with the idea of using a wormhole, probably to get to Andromeda, as they made a twitter post that was suggestive of it.

A further curiosity is that this method is straight up described as being a one way trip, with the result of time dilation transporting the travelers millions of years in the future.

It starts on 09/08/11 and there are several subsequent news stories. Here is the first one for you lazy types:

"During a news conference at the ongoing Volus Physical Society meeting on Irune, Volus scientist Darik Zol unveiled a new theory of how black holes could be used for interstellar travel. “It’s true,” said the press release, “black hole surroundings are vicious environments, whether it’s the million-solar-mass black hole at the Galactic center, or your regular run-of-the-mill ten-solar-mass black hole in the Galactic disk. But, by surrounding the black hole with a sphere of element zero, we could effectively turn it into a wormhole, opening a gate to a different part of the galaxy—or who knows, maybe even beyond"

And the relevant link for all of the news stories:

http://cdn.wikia.com..._September_2011


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Insane idea, but I mind the wormhole transportation method a whole lot less than the long, sneaky crawl out of the Milky Way on the juice of Reaper tech.
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Looks like this solves all the lore problems, all right. Except for the question of why nobody from the Milky Way -- whichever cycle beat the Reapers -- made it to Andromeda. But that one's simple; the standard handwave is that everyone ascended to a higher plane of existence..

Everyone who stayed behind had a hundred billion stars and a mass relay network to keep exploring.  :D


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Insane idea, but I mind the wormhole transportation method a whole lot less than the long, sneaky crawl out of the Milky Way on the juice of Reaper tech.

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Looks like this solves all the lore problems, all right. Except for the question of why nobody from the Milky Way -- whichever cycle beat the Reapers -- made it to Andromeda. But that one's simple; the standard handwave is that everyone ascended to a higher plane of existence..

 

Maybe the remnant is made of the MW races after beating the reapers.



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Ya i am thinking the same thing as MrFob, how does this even sound possible.

 

So they have to create a sphere made of an element that is very rare to begin with, and I have reservations about them 1) having enough of it 2) the amount of time to mine enough of the materiel 3) the amount of time it would to take to create a sphere of that magnitue 4) the man power required to make a sphere that size 5) who is going to just blinding throw an Ark ship through the hole and hope for the best...

 

I really hope this isn't the method they use but I have suspected for a while that it will be a worm hole in some form.



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great find

 

 

I for one welcome our wormhole overlords ^_^



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Ya i am thinking the same thing as MrFob, how does this even sound possible.

 

So they have to create a sphere made of an element that is very rare to begin with, and I have reservations about them 1) having enough of it 2) the amount of time to mine enough of the materiel 3) the amount of time it would to take to create a sphere of that magnitue 4) the man power required to make a sphere that size 5) who is going to just blinding throw an Ark ship through the hole and hope for the best...

 

I really hope this isn't the method they use but I have suspected for a while that it will be a worm hole in some form.

 

Well, the volus dude did it in less than a month, just with scraping up eezo through donations. He was using dust, not a solid sphere. It'sa tad weird, I agree but eezo always was the magical stuff that made plots happen in ME, so at least they'd keep consistent in that regard.



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Maybe the remnant is made of the MW races after beating the reapers.


I can see it. And any records we find are from an era so far after the Reapers that nobody really cared what happened back then.

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Hmm, bad news, guys.  Looks like these reports are all fan made.  Cerebus News Network pretty much stopped running regularly in January of 2011, and these were all made in September



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So they have to create a sphere made of an element that is very rare to begin with, and I have reservations about them 1) having enough of it 2) the amount of time to mine enough of the materiel 3) the amount of time it would to take to create a sphere of that magnitue 4) the man power required to make a sphere that size 5) who is going to just blinding throw an Ark ship through the hole and hope for the best...


Well, in order:

1 and 2) there was enough eezo for the proof-of-concept, and that was raised via donation, not through any kind of massive effort.
3 and 4) Remember, the sphere is just dust, not a solid mass. It didn't take long for Darik Zol to get the dust in place.
5) Facing Reaper harvesting? I'd take the shot.

But as iakus points out, this is all noncanon.

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Hmm, bad news, guys.  Looks like these reports are all fan made.  Cerebus News Network pretty much stopped running regularly in January of 2011, and these were all made in September

 

But, if ME:A opened with a sequence explaining that they used eezo and black holes to create wormholes to Andromeda during the Reaper invasion, would that be considered a hand-wave or cop-out? Does having a Cerberus Daily News article (if this one was actually from Bioware) really all it would take to make this theory from junk into plausible?



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Hmm, bad news, guys.  Looks like these reports are all fan made.  Cerebus News Network pretty much stopped running regularly in January of 2011, and these were all made in September

C'mon man, let'em enjoy for a little while longer. ;)



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Ehh... I'd prefer they take the long way.

 

But whatever.

Why? The level of technology required for such a journey hasn't been achieved in the Mass Effect universe, not even by the Reapers, and they're 1 billion years ahead of everyone else.



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But, if ME:A opened with a sequence explaining that they used eezo and black holes to create wormholes to Andromeda during the Reaper invasion, would that be considered a hand-wave or cop-out? Does having a Cerberus Daily News article (if this one was actually from Bioware) really all it would take to make this theory from junk into plausible?

No reason it couldn't be both.  Heck I think going to Andromeda at all is a cop-out. 

 

The problem with this not being a "real" Cerberus Daily News article simply says, to me, at least, that this particular method wasn't deamed up by Bioware. And sadly, this is a method I could have, in theory, accepted.


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Hmm, bad news, guys.  Looks like these reports are all fan made.  Cerebus News Network pretty much stopped running regularly in January of 2011, and these were all made in September


Probably should have looked at the actual page before getting into the discussion. Womp womp.
 

For canon information, see the Mass Effect Wiki page for Cerberus Daily News. This page is for CDN members' non-canon additions.

The following stories contributed by Cerberus Daily News forum members were published on the CDN newsfeed during September 2011. See the main Cerberus Daily News page for current updates.


Still vastly prefer the wormhole idea, though.