Ah, dam! But yea, there is no reason why BW couldn't use something like this or even this exact scenario and just roll with it.
I mean, let's face it, however we get there, we will need to face some rather ridiculous plot device at the beginning of ME:A one way or another to bring us to Andromeda. This one is definitely not the worst idea I have encountered yet and the whole time dilation issue even opens up some interesting plot opportunities.
Ya i am thinking the same thing as MrFob, how does this even sound possible.
So they have to create a sphere made of an element that is very rare to begin with, and I have reservations about them 1) having enough of it 2) the amount of time to mine enough of the materiel 3) the amount of time it would to take to create a sphere of that magnitue 4) the man power required to make a sphere that size 5) who is going to just blinding throw an Ark ship through the hole and hope for the best...
I really hope this isn't the method they use but I have suspected for a while that it will be a worm hole in some form.
Well, the volus dude did it in less than a month, just with scraping up eezo through donations. He was using dust, not a solid sphere. It'sa tad weird, I agree but eezo always was the magical stuff that made plots happen in ME, so at least they'd keep consistent in that regard.
Well, in order:
1 and 2) there was enough eezo for the proof-of-concept, and that was raised via donation, not through any kind of massive effort.
3 and 4) Remember, the sphere is just dust, not a solid mass. It didn't take long for Darik Zol to get the dust in place.
5) Facing Reaper harvesting? I'd take the shot.
But as iakus points out, this is all noncanon.
Ya, when i was responding in my post it was before the rest of the articles was up, so my post went after all that.
So sphere of dust which was raised in a month. Crazy scientist who was just to eager to roll the dice and see where his adventure took him, that or he was the dumbest scientist ever.
Can't say I care for this, because if this puts the Ark hundreds of thousand years into the future, it is in essence a complete redo.
Omega is loaded with eezo. Aria T'Loak confirmed to appear in ME:A.
Only time will tell, hopefully soon. Some type of information would be nice.. I can't wait til N7 Day.
Rare?
I found planets full of the stuff in ME2
And even in the codex they say there's planets that are full of eezo, like Thessia, that's why all Asari are natural born biotics. Seriously, this is a lame-ass plot device, but as I said, they got away with worse. I rather they go this route than simply saying they discovered some special mass relay or something, or even traveling in FTL in a reaper tech based ship to Andromeda (wich is completely preposterous).
Awesome gif. I love that movie. 
So they could do Ark theory mixed with wormhole theory.
So they could do Ark theory mixed with wormhole theory.
Or just Wormhole Theory and completely scrap Ark Theory.
Everyone who stayed behind had a hundred billion stars and a mass relay network to keep exploring.
...while also being in an indeterminate state of existing with green bullshit and/or Reapers. Oh and "art". don't forget about "art".
Why? The level of technology required for such a journey hasn't been achieved in the Mass Effect universe, not even by the Reapers, and they're 1 billion years ahead of everyone else.
lolno. Remember how they've been controlling technology and basically doing the same thing over and over again since their creation?
Reapers are just as technologically stagnant as everything else, their advantage is decades or centuries at most.
Hibernation/cryosleep + dischargeless drive core (or detachable battery storage for discharge) = perfectly valid way to get to Andromeda, given there's no time restrictions. The only thing you have to deal with is how and when the Ark itself is constructed, and that's massaging the timeline, not the lore.
And even in the codex they say there's planets that are full of eezo, like Thessia, that's why all Asari are natural born biotics. Seriously, this is a lame-ass plot device, but as I said, they got away with worse. I rather they go this route than simply saying they discovered some special mass relay or something, or even traveling in FTL in a reaper tech based ship to Andromeda (wich is completely preposterous).
I thought they didn't get any Reaper tech until the 3rd game, which most of it was controlled by Cerberus until they get whooped.
So that would mean the Ark has no Reaper tech?
Ultimately I really would have preferred they just canon some choices and continue on from there. They don't have to touch on the Reaper stuff at all, but to me to it would be far better than coming up with some crazy idea and telling the fanbase it's a great idea that works.
Or just Wormhole Theory and completely scrap Ark Theory.
I'm not even a fan of going to Andromeda in the first place, but if they absolutely HAVE to go there, this is the only way that makes sense and would fit the established technological level of the galaxy.
And even if they used a wormhole, the premise of why they would be using it would be to escape the Reapers...which is still ark theory.
Hibernation/cryosleep + dischargeless drive core (or detachable battery storage for discharge) = perfectly valid way to get to Andromeda, given there's no time restrictions. The only thing you have to deal with is how and when the Ark itself is constructed, and that's massaging the timeline, not the lore.
No, you also have to deal with energy. Mass Effect technology doesn't run on the kind of convenient infinite energy power cells your little scenario requires. Eezo power drain for 570 years > power storage for 570 years > ship has to be bigger to accomodate for all that power storage > eezo power drain increases > energy storage has to be bigger > ship has to be even bigger, and so forth. The design of a FTL generation ship is inherently doomed to fail because unlike relativistic generation ships, which drifts through space with minimal power requirements, FTL generation ships need to keep their FTL engine on for the entire journey. That's like building a car engine that has to run at maximum speed for 570 years without being refuelled. The engine would have to be unbelievably huge to accomodate for the fuel storage - the same principle applies here.
This isn't even touching the issue of maintenance or discharging, the latter of which you completely dismiss as doable with modern technology despite the fact that such technology doesn't exist for spaceships. Only extremely large, extremely power-hungry and extremely maintenance-heavy space installations have the capacity for their own discharge technology, and these installations are completely reliant on fuel and power supplies from the outside to remain operational. I shouldn't have to mention this, but these kinds of installations obviously don't have FTL propulsion since the enormous mass would require a proportionally enormous amount of eezo and power to reduce, on the scale of economical and practical impossibility. It's the equivalent of building a floating city that's as fast as a racing boat.
A generation ship would be completely cut off from the galaxy it left. There would be no way to bring the necessary supplies it needs to continue the journey. Everything it needs to make the journey, it needs to bring with it right from the start. It can't even use solar panels to generate its own power because the panels doesn't get any useful amount of light in dark space. And other methods of self-sustained power are either insufficient, impractical or extremely hazardous.
This is why the Ark theory doesn't work.
I can think of many other motivations behind going to another galaxy than escaping the Reapers.
No, you also have to deal with energy. Mass Effect technology doesn't run on the kind of convenient infinite energy power cells your little scenario requires. Eezo power drain for 570 years > power storage for 570 years > ship has to be bigger to accomodate for all that power storage > eezo power drain increases > energy storage has to be bigger > ship has to be even bigger, and so forth. The design of a FTL generation ship is inherently doomed to fail because unlike relativistic generation ships, which drifts through space with minimal power requirements, FTL generation ships need to keep their FTL engine on for the entire journey. That's like building a car engine that has to run at maximum speed for 570 years without being refuelled. The engine would have to be unbelievably huge to accomodate for the fuel storage - the same principle applies here.
This isn't even touching the issue of maintenance or discharging, the latter of which you completely dismiss as doable with modern technology despite the fact that such technology doesn't exist for spaceships. Only extremely large, extremely power-hungry and extremely maintenance-heavy space installations have the capacity for their own discharge technology, and these installations are completely reliant on fuel and power supplies from the outside to remain operational. I shouldn't have to mention this, but these kinds of installations obviously don't have FTL propulsion since the enormous mass would require a proportionally enormous amount of eezo and power to reduce, on the scale of economical and practical impossibility. It's the equivalent of building a floating city that's as fast as a racing boat.
A generation ship would be completely cut off from the galaxy it left. There would be no way to bring the necessary supplies it needs to continue the journey. Everything it needs to make the journey, it needs to bring with it right from the start. It can't even use solar panels to generate its own power because the panels doesn't get any useful amount of light in dark space. And other methods of self-sustained power are either insufficient, impractical or extremely hazardous.
This is why the Ark theory doesn't work.
Reapers don't need to refuel. Their power plants and Eezo drives appear to be able to run nigh indefinitely without the need to refuel or discharge. The technology exists.
Not really. No other reason is reasonable pre-ME3 ending which satisfies the necessary requirements.
The requirements are: The ending choices of ME3 are irrelevant as no canon ending is chosen, return to the MW is impossible, and contact is probably lost with the MW although this is not a vital component.
Every other reason doesn't fit. Take going there to explore, for example - there is no good reason to send a one way exploration trip to Andromeda when the Reapers are tearing apart the galaxy.
Furthermore, with the leak probably being totally correct at this point, we can infer that we are in Andromeda to colonize it, which also would make no sense unless it was a contingency plan.
The ONLY way any other motive for Andromeda makes sense is if the game truly takes place in a post-ME3 far future. Which is stupid, because it would negate the reason to leave the MW in the first place - ie: They wrote themselves into a corner.
You're vastly underestimating the hubris and sheer "Why the hell not!" nature of exploration and discovery. This could even be a "contingency plan" that has nothing to do with the Reapers! There are tons of possibilities, many that would be a hell of a lot better than progressing the religious allusions with Noah's Space Ark and basing the entire setting on literally running away from the original trilogy.
No, you also have to deal with energy. Mass Effect technology doesn't run on the kind of convenient infinite energy power cells your little scenario requires. Eezo power drain for 570 years > power storage for 570 years > ship has to be bigger to accomodate for all that power storage > eezo power drain increases > energy storage has to be bigger > ship has to be even bigger, and so forth. The design of a FTL generation ship is inherently doomed to fail because unlike relativistic generation ships, which drifts through space with minimal power requirements, FTL generation ships need to keep their FTL engine on for the entire journey. That's like building a car engine that has to run at maximum speed for 570 years without being refuelled. The engine would have to be unbelievably huge to accomodate for the fuel storage - the same principle applies here.
This isn't even touching the issue of maintenance or discharging, the latter of which you completely dismiss as doable with modern technology despite the fact that such technology doesn't exist for spaceships. Only extremely large, extremely power-hungry and extremely maintenance-heavy space installations have the capacity for their own discharge technology, and these installations are completely reliant on fuel and power supplies from the outside to remain operational. I shouldn't have to mention this, but these kinds of installations obviously don't have FTL propulsion since the enormous mass would require a proportionally enormous amount of eezo and power to reduce, on the scale of economical and practical impossibility. It's the equivalent of building a floating city that's as fast as a racing boat.
A generation ship would be completely cut off from the galaxy it left. There would be no way to bring the necessary supplies it needs to continue the journey. Everything it needs to make the journey, it needs to bring with it right from the start. It can't even use solar panels to generate its own power because the panels doesn't get any useful amount of light in dark space. And other methods of self-sustained power are either insufficient, impractical or extremely hazardous.
This is why the Ark theory doesn't work.
Who says it isn't unbelievably huge? It would have to be and most of that would have to be storage for supplies, fuel included. Then there's also the convenient omission that if you're going to adapt Reaper drives, why not adapt their cores as well? Finally I never said it had to be sustained flight. I assume 570 years is the calculated estimate to arrive and Andromeda? I don't recall having to keep any appointments for that time. I can easily see the Ark flying on a "burst" schedule to conserve fuel. If it adds a thousand years or so to the journey, who cares? We're distancing ourselves from the trilogy. Time is irrelevant.
Modern technology just makes do with discharging near whatever object will take it, because why not? What would the use for detachable storage batteries be in normal operation? It'd be a waste of material to design something like that when you can just skim a planet or asteroid or pay a nominal fee to discharge at a station. This is like claiming we couldn't invent better long-range FTL. We probably could, but with the relays, why bother? That's the whole point of the relay trap to begin with.
Yes... and? That's the whole point, and seeing what they come up with to address this is far more interesting that "look a wormhole lololol"
It actually sounds like a neat idea.
You're on a human ship with a full compliment of humans as your crew, and some members of other species as well but mostly human, and you're thrust into a completely new galaxy with no way of getting back home, so your crew is just out to survive amongst a new galactic community. The crew could be fairly large, sitting at around a few hundred which would make more sense than a crew the size the Normandy had going. That way, the human race would survive a little longer against not only the perils of new species (probably violent but I would expect some would also be friendly) and environments but also from dying out due to age (at least for a couple of generations hopefully).
Yes... and? That's the whole point, and seeing what they come up with to address this is far more interesting that "look a wormhole lololol"
Uh, this is the same studio responsible for sentient plants digesting bodies into mental brain filters, curing death with "resources", and Synthesis.
Are you sure about this?
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