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[Battlebloodmage]

How do you feel about Happily-Never-After where the LI leaves you without your input? There were a big contrast between Jacob and Solas' fan reaction to being dumped. Jacob cheated on you and then leaves you after knocking up another woman while Solas leaves you after deceiving you. Solas, however, was very positively being received while Jacob was being dreaded. Was it due to the characters' popularity or how the story being presented, so it wouldn't matter if you get dumped if you are being dumped the "right" way? 

[AlexiaRevan]

I shoot both if I could....

[The Night Haunter]

I prefer Solas' version to Jacob, as Jacob decides to cheat on you and then stay with his new squeeze for no particular reason, at least Solas has a good reason why he can't romance someone.

[Broganisity]

The writing quality on Jacob's could be improved but I approve of the concept.

This isn't The Princess Bride where two people are hopelessly and illogically in love with each other over the silliest reasons and is not write as a form of satire. Characters move on, have interests or desires that can and should cause conflict. Yes, we should have relationships without such issues but not all relationships are that way.

That's true diversity, right there.

 

[Panda]

Solas leaving you was tragic and some like stories like that. Jacob leaving Shep wasn't really tragic nor interesting story point. Also there is more room to headcanon currently with Solas and change that romance can continue if not canonly by DLC at least in headcanons. When Jacob will always leave you and have pregnant girlfriend.

[AlexiaRevan]

 

The writing quality on Jacob's could be improved but I approve of the concept.

This isn't The Princess Bride where two people are hopelessly and illogically in love with each other over the silliest reasons and is not write as a form of satire. Characters move on, have interests or desires that can and should cause conflict. Yes, we should have relationships without such issues but not all relationships are that way.

That's true diversity, right there.

 

Moving on is fine...

 

But not the way it was done . I mean Jacob is lucky he is scripted..cose he deserve to be Shot right between the eyes . 

 

That whole speech and going 'I'm moved on' ....no warning no letter no phone call...like you never existed...........No way . Wanna be a grown up and act responsible with these scientist he found ? he shouldnt act like a D-bag elsewhere......

[Quarian Master Race]

Jacob because he's in a game I've actually played



Either way, I approve of more companions who tell you they love you after they sneak into your cabin in one game, then cheat on you in the next. It's only fair, considering the level of two timing adulterous fuckery that the PC can engage in.

[BabyPuncher]

Jacob's romance was done the way it was done because of one incredibly simple reason: He was incredibly unpopular. I can guarentee that BioWare wouldn't have done the same thing with a romance that players actually cared about.

[SojournerN7]

I like the idea that there's no guarantee of 'locking in' a relationship between characters.

 

Guess the Prize was just a booty call. Sorry Shep.

[Broganisity]

Moving on is fine...

 

But not the way it was done . I mean Jacob is lucky he is scripted..cose he deserve to be Shot right between the eyes . 

 

That whole speech and going 'I'm moved on' ....no warning no letter no phone call...like you never existed...........No way . Wanna be a grown up and act responsible with these scientist he found ? he shouldnt act like a D-bag elsewhere......

Hence the 'better written' part.

Shepard was in Alliance custody for about a month or two, not 'Dead for two years'. Jacob could have sent some sort of message stating it was a 'one time thing' or 'stress release' or what all else, which would have dampened things for the player and Shepard prior to their physical encounter and the reveal.

 

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One of the reasons the Thane Romance is my favorite for this concept is that you enter in knowing it won't go well, but there's a part of you that hopes that the Hanar will find a cure for Kepral's Syndrome and everything will be okay in the end, Reapers be damned.

And while a player who likes Thane is saddened by his death, a player who romanced Thane feels it all the more.

 

That hope for a cure? Gone.

That hope for a happy ending? Gone.
Reapers be damned? Damn right.

[Quarian Master Race]

I like the idea that there's no guarantee of 'locking in' a relationship between characters.

 

Guess the Prize was just a booty call. Sorry Shep.

 my siiides

[LightningPoodle]

Solas is a user. Jacob is a cheater.

 

I hate both of them.

[N7Jamaican]

Heavy riiskk, but the priiizee

[Suketchi]

I never romanced Jacob myself, but I read about the results. All respect for Jacob as a character was lost, and I'm as big a b**** as possible to him on principle. Solas, however, I did romance. As upsetting as his romance was, it is definitely preferable to Jacob's. 

 

On the whole, I'd say Solas' romance was better received because, 

 

A ) Solas dumping you actually serves a narrative purpose.

B ) Solas still cares about the Inquisitor. Part of his reasoning for dumping you is that he loves you. Jacob just dumps you because he feels like it. 

C ) There's a BIG difference between getting cheated on and dumped, and just getting dumped. I guarantee you, if Solas dumped the Inquisitor AND cheated on her with Mythal, he would become decidedly less popular. (...more so, anyways. I never got the feeling Solas was a popular character, too many people hate his guts)

 

Not to say that I don't think romances like Jacob's should be implemented: it's realistic. I just think they should offer better closure. Like being able to kill Jacob, for example. 

[Broganisity]

I never romanced Jacob myself, but I read about the results. All respect for Jacob as a character was lost, and I'm as big a b**** as possible to him on principle. Solas, however, I did romance. As upsetting as his romance was, it is definitely preferable to Jacob's. 

 

On the whole, I'd say Solas' romance was better received because, 

 

A ) Solas dumping you actually serves a narrative purpose.

B ) Solas still cares about the Inquisitor. Part of his reasoning for dumping you is that he loves you. Jacob just dumps you because he feels like it. 

C ) There's a BIG difference between getting cheated on and dumped, and just getting dumped. I guarantee you, if Solas dumped the Inquisitor AND cheated on her with Mythal, he would become decidedly less popular. (...more so, anyways. I never got the feeling Solas was a popular character, too many people hate his guts)

 

Not to say that I don't think romances like Jacob's should be implemented: it's realistic. I just think they should offer better closure. Like being able to kill Jacob, for example. 

 

That's a little. . .extreme, Commander.

[Suketchi]

That's a little. . .extreme, Commander.

 

lol

 

Hey, Shepard can be a little extreme. 

[Battlebloodmage]

That's a little. . .extreme, Commander.

If I can't have him, no one can.

 

[Larry-3]

Your love interest left you, and it made you mad? Sounds like a common occurrence in real life to me.

[Broganisity]

If I can't have him, no one can.

 

-snips away the anime. . .that's a poem for you, son-

 

[Suketchi]

If I can't have him, no one can.

 

Well, that's not exactly it. If Jacob had actually let you know he was leaving you and then got together with someone else, there wouldn't be a problem. It's the cheating part that pisses people off, not the moving on part.

[Han Shot First]

The difference is in how their stories were presented. Solas' departure very much made sense for his character, considering the end game reveal.

 

Jacob's arc in ME3 however was complete 180 based on how he was portrayed in the second game. Jacob's arc only ended the way it did because he was not a popular character and Bioware decided not to spend the resources developing a LI arc in ME3. Basically his LI arc in ME3 got cut due to unpopularity, whereas with Solas his leaving at the end was planned from the beginning. 

 

Jacob's fans were angrier than Solas' fans because his arc had infidelity that was both out of character and shoehorned in, just so Bioware didn't have to expend resources developing it in the third game. 

[Seboist]

How do you feel about Happily-Never-After where the LI leaves you without your input? There were a big contrast between Jacob and Solas' fan reaction to being dumped. Jacob cheated on you and then leaves you after knocking up another woman while Solas leaves you after deceiving you. Solas, however, was very positively being received while Jacob was being dreaded. Was it due to the characters' popularity or how the story being presented, so it wouldn't matter if you get dumped if you are being dumped the "right" way? 

 

It was absolutely due to the characters' popularity, the reason why the Jacobmance was handled as it was in 3 due was to it being an unpopular option, same with Morinth.

 

Otherwise, I like the idea of a waifu/manfu possibly dumping the PC for someone else.

[Duelist]

I'm ambivalent about both of them but Jacob's romance spawned this, so it wins by default.

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[Han Shot First]

 

Otherwise, I like the idea of a waifu/manfu possibly dumping the PC for someone else.

 

There should definitely be more arcs that have a bitersweet tone. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't like either.