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And they'll all be fictional. That's the problem. The Helius Cluster isn't a real cluster. So all the places within that cluster will also be fictional, with no basis on actual places in our universe.


Honestly man, you have self-professed to be an astronomy major (or something), yet I honestly find that hard to believe because you fixate on things that are astronomical minutia. In the vastness of the universe, it truly matters not if we visit the Horsehead nebula, or Arcturus, or any other true astronomical body. In the vastness of creation (and I use that term in a very metaphorical sense as someone who does not believe in most people's concept of a god), every star, and planetary environment is likely repeated a thousand times over. Uniqueness, eventually, becomes repetitive. So it surprises me that you are fascinated not by what COULD be known, but by a very superficial level of what IS known.
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And they'll all be fictional. That's the problem. The Helius Cluster isn't a real cluster. So all the places within that cluster will also be fictional, with no basis on actual places in our universe.

But what if one day humans chart Andromeda and name everything after what we get next year in ME:A?

Than it would all be fine again. ;)



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And they'll all be fictional. That's the problem. The Helius Cluster isn't a real cluster. So all the places within that cluster will also be fictional, with no basis on actual places in our universe.


It's not like many of the places we visit in the original trilogy are real, though.
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Being afraid of such trivial things must get really exhausting.
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They listen, they listen to much. DA2 need more level. Look at DA:I. It become so big one problem become other problem. But every Bioware DLC quality is better then vanilla game. Like in DA:I people complain quest have only one outcome in Jaws of Hakoan we have choice at the end of most quests.

The problem is Bioware making new game fix 2 thinks and in the process break 4.


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It's not like many of the places we visit in the original trilogy are real, though.

 

And in ME2, the closest we get to visiting a real life location is dropping probes in Uranus. 


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And in ME2, the closest we get to visiting a real life location is dropping probes in Uranus.


The layers here, bruh. The layers.
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99℅ of the planets we visited in the trilogy were fictional so what's different.

1% obviously.

 

:huh:

 

If that's what you're playing Mass Effect for you should rethink your entertainment choices. I think you might want The Science Channel, not Mass(Magic) Effect.

No, it's not why I'm playing Mass Effect. It is however part of what made Mass Effect special. I stated this already. 

 

The only places in the ME trilogy we ever visited that were real were the moon, earth and mars. 

And a couple dozen actual stars, and a few nebulae and clusters. 

 

Honestly man, you have self-professed to be an astronomy major (or something), yet I honestly find that hard to believe because you fixate on things that are astronomical minutia. In the vastness of the universe, it truly matters not if we visit the Horsehead nebula, or Arcturus, or any other true astronomical body. In the vastness of creation (and I use that term in a very metaphorical sense as someone who does not believe in most people's concept of a god), every star, and planetary environment is likely repeated a thousand times over. Uniqueness, eventually, becomes repetitive. So it surprises me that you are fascinated not by what COULD be known, but by a very superficial level of what IS known.

Yes, shame on me for wanting to see actual things in our universe generated more than stuff people make up. I get the same thing from practically every other scifi game/show/movie/book/etc, so give me a good reason why I should be happy that one of the few who didn't just make everything up are now just making everything up?

 

But what if one day humans chart Andromeda and name everything after what we get next year in ME:A?

Than it would all be fine again.  ;)

Wouldn't matter. What we get in MEA is still nothing more than imaginary. 



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No. In the previous games, we visited actual places like certain stars, planets, nebulae, and clusters. Since the games take place in Andromeda now, all that is gone forever. 

 

So by us visiting new planets, star clusters and nebula in another galaxy means the majesty is gone? And the fictional places we went in the Milky Way creates a different majesty than the fictional places in another one centuries later?



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Or, more mockingly....

 

I'm afraid of Bethesda making their open-world games more big and open and the quests pile on so much that I lose track of them and get lost in the vastness of the game! They should each be small and manageable and allow us as gamers to get to know and appreciate the main character and other side characters in a lot more detail!

 

What? That takes away from the world-building and exploration? 

 

Or,

 

I'm afraid that Bioware will change the things I love about some of their games and keep the things that need improvement and that I hate about other games, and that EA will treat Bioware as a cash cow and its new management won't listen to us or take any feedback seriously because the game should be what I expect it to be, and any deviation from that will be seen as negative!

 

:lol:

 

We gamers have become quite entitled in what we want in our games compared to what the game developers want to produce in the amount of time with the amount of resources they have available.


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So by us visiting new planets, star clusters and nebula in another galaxy means the majesty is gone? And the fictional places we went in the Milky Way creates a different majesty than the fictional places in another one centuries later?

Pretty much. As said before, the fact that Bioware sprinkled real locations into the MEU is part of what made Mass Effect special to me, over all the series that made everyplace up. With that now gone and them being like everyone else and making everyplace up, the special feelings go as well. 

I have no doubt it will be a great game, but it won't be special anymore. 



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ME:A is being made by BioWare Montreal, a new studio founded in 2009. I think they made ME3 multiplayer. Whatever the team that made the original ME trilogy did or did not, this is a completely different studio. I don't know what singleplayer content they've done so far so I have no idea what to expect.

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ME:A is being made by BioWare Montreal, a new studio founded in 2009. I think they made ME3 multiplayer. Whatever the team that made the original ME trilogy did or did not, this is a completely different studio. I don't know what singleplayer content they've done so far so I have no idea what to expect.

They also made the Omega DLC for the ME3 singleplayer. 

Plus they still have quite a few members of the team that made the Shepard Trilogy with them. They just moved to Montreal while Edmonton works on Dragon Age and the new IP. 


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Pretty much. As said before, the fact that Bioware sprinkled real locations into the MEU is part of what made Mass Effect special to me, over all the series that made everyplace up. With that now gone and them being like everyone else and making everyplace up, the special feelings go as well. 

I have no doubt it will be a great game, but it won't be special anymore. 

 

Right....so locations we know next to nothing about other than they may exist, but not even the makeup of their existence is preferable to something we know next to nothing about aside from the fact that the area exists?  :huh:

 

That doesn't make any sense. 


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No. In the previous games, we visited actual places like certain stars, planets, nebulae, and clusters. Since the games take place in Andromeda now, all that is gone forever. 

Let me tell you, I've been to Noveria.  It's *nothing* like ME makes it out to be.  Give me the fake one any day of the week.


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Sigh. I want my standalone Noveria game.
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Pretty much. As said before, the fact that Bioware sprinkled real locations into the MEU is part of what made Mass Effect special to me, over all the series that made everyplace up. With that now gone and them being like everyone else and making everyplace up, the special feelings go as well. 

I have no doubt it will be a great game, but it won't be special anymore. 

 

Quarian sweat is what makes Mass Effect so special to some people. You're in the same boat as them.


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Well, as long as EA doesn't become money hungry and proceed to tear out Bioware's heart and soul, everything should be fine. I mean, it isn't like they're dealing with Activision, right? 

 

Seriously, I like EA better than Activision. They decided to tear down what could have been one of the greatest games of all time into a mediocre addictive as hell shooter called Destiny.  


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Yes, shame on me for wanting to see actual things in our universe generated more than stuff people make up. I get the same thing from practically every other scifi game/show/movie/book/etc, so give me a good reason why I should be happy that one of the few who didn't just make everything up are now just making everything up?

I don't think anyone's asking you to be happy about it. But being unhappy because we won't have cameos by Sol system, Arturus, and the Horsehead Nebula is a bit silly.
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We're getting to Andromeda on the power of quarian sweat.
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Right....so locations we know next to nothing about other than they may exist, but not even the makeup of their existence is preferable to something we know next to nothing about aside from the fact that the area exists?  :huh:

 

That doesn't make any sense. 

The things I am referring to we know quite a bit about. We know size, mass, temperature, composition, etc. And most importantly the fact they are real.

Having real locations, even as merely a backdrop, is preferable to everything being fictional. 



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I don't think anyone's asking you to be happy about it. But being unhappy because we won't have cameos by Sol system, Arturus, and the Horsehead Nebula is a bit silly.

There are people mocking me for it or telling me to get over it. 

I don't care if it's silly. It was part of why I loved Mass Effect, and it's gone now. 

 

 

Quarian sweat is what makes Mass Effect so special to some people. You're in the same boat as them.

Quarians may still be in the game, so if they are those people will still have what made it special. So no, I'm not in the same boat. 



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Quarian sweat, Turian foot fetish and Krogan poop shoots. Something the new ME will not have. 

 

Shame. 



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Quarian sweat, Turian foot fetish and Krogan poop shoots. Something the new ME will not have.

Shame.


I know about sweat dude and the unfortunate tail armor placement thing, but ... Turian foot fetish?

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I know about sweat dude and the unfortunate tail armor placement thing, but ... Turian foot fetish?

I heard about it. 

 

It needed a mention.

 

Next we'll get... I dunno... Vorcha humping?