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[Spankatola]

@ Spankatola and chrstnmonk Have you seen her previous posts. This was just the drop that made 'my vase' overflow. 

 

Also, just drop in the old gens problems thread if you haven't done it before so you understand why we are so p****d

 

Fair enough. You'll never hear me calling anyone out for not spending money on luxury items. People have families and bills. But I do get a little twitchy reading articles like the one in the OP, wanting half price for stuff I'm paying full price for, just because...well just because. It's too far.

[FKA_Servo]

To be fair, it seems like the game is perpetually 50% off at lots of places over the past several months. So I guess you can snatch it up for half off, and transfer the DLC to your platform of choice, if you were looking to upgrade.

[chrstnmonks]

To be fair, it seems like the game is perpetually 50% off at lots of places over the past several months. So I guess you can snatch it up for half off, and transfer the DLC to your platform of choice, if you were looking to upgrade.

It is half off on origins now

[GithCheater]

Actually, when we paid $500 + for our new consoles we actually ARE entitled to more than you are. Better graphics, faster speeds, better performance. That's why we bought it.

New Gen Master Race?

[GithCheater]

If their newspaper is soaking wet of course we would replace. But a $1 newspaper isnt exactly a $60 game. Whats more, is nine times out of ten it's the customers fault because their mailbox was full or broken. Laziness and not getting your paper for weeks or not replacing a broken box causes failed deliveries and wet papers.

Brilliant! Blame and show utter contempt for the customer. I pity those who have no concept as to what customer service really means.

I am a quality engineer and would never dream of having such an awful anti-consumer attitude.

Salaries are paid due to customer income (and goodwill). Never forget that.

[Streniff]

I don't know. Maybe the dlc requires more oomph then the PS3 can do.

See, if you had just put it on a PC you could just upgrade your hardware whenever you needed to.

[Panda]

Once again support means patches bug fixes and help with technical issues. Support does not mean new content. You are right about the fact that you should get the patches and bugfixes. It is the "because i brought base game I am entitled to any new content" is were you are wrong. FYI noone here is a Bioware fanboy or Fangirl just because they happen to take the stance opposite of you. You have 10 year old hardware. Upgrade if you want thenew DLC if not than don't. Or even better get a pc so you don't have this issue.

 

Can't really say there has been support since release then. And patch support drop means that there won't be anymore bug fixes nor help with tehnical issues. And pretty much players do think when they buy the game that they can buy DLC's as well. Lot of DLC's are pretty heavy on story-content and you will miss out a lot if you don't have access to them like Legacy from DA2.

 

Some can't take criticism towards Bioware and that's why I said it.

 

Even if I upgrade I can't buy new DLC since I have PS3 base game. And my hardware's age doesn't matter, although it's 4 years old not 10- PS3 production lasted quite long, since Bioware did game for it. If I buy game that says PS1 I'm expecting it to work on PS1 not have people crying how my hardware is ancient when I complain if it doesn't work on the system.

 

Why are people even crying about our hardware when we are complaining about faulty PS3 and XBOX360 game?

 

If your game actually doesn't work, return it. If you waited too long to do that, game over. THAT'S your right as a consumer who purchases a software license. You can attack me all you like, you can dismiss my arguments by calling me a fanboy, it doesn't make your position any more meritorious. It makes you sound like a brat. Maybe I'm a big poopyhead, but only because I'm right.

 

People didn't return games cause they expected patches.

 

You are here getting mad at people who can't get access to DLC content and that somehow makes you mature person? This wasn't unfair business practice towards you and you aren't the harmed party here. Your stance here is new gen player who has access to everything s/he wants getting mad at people who don't and are upset over it. I don't even know how you are related to this.

[Sylvius the Mad]

It's tiered level of service.

Yes it is. But you should judge each tier in its merits; the existence or non-existence of other tiers makes no difference.

[Avejajed]

Brilliant! Blame and show utter contempt for the customer. I pity those who have no concept as to what customer service really means.

I am a quality engineer and would never dream of having such an awful anti-consumer attitude.

Salaries are paid due to customer income (and goodwill). Never forget that.

You start giving things away for free and see how much money you make. They could give every one of you a free copy of Inquisition on the next Gen console of your choice and you would still all complain about it.

We give new newspapers to those who ask and say not a word to them, just smile and hand it over, but that's a financial drop in the hat compared to the cost to give you all a new game.

And even if they did replace your game you'd still have to buy a new console. You want BW to give you that for free too?

[Wolven_Soul]

And then have the lovely next gen console owners of DA I already start complaining about the unfairness of it all?  Not likely.  

 

As an aside I bought DA I twice already, at full price on both console generations...totally worth it.  

 

I wouldn't complain about it, doesn't sound unfair to me at all.  I also bought the game full price on two consoles.  Totally not worth it.

[Morroian]

You start giving things away for free and see how much money you make. They could give every one of you a free copy of Inquisition on the next Gen console of your choice and you would still all complain about it.

We give new newspapers to those who ask and say not a word to them, just smile and hand it over, but that's a financial drop in the hat compared to the cost to give you all a new game.

And even if they did replace your game you'd still have to buy a new console. You want BW to give you that for free too?

 

I thought you were leaving this discussion?

[Avejajed]

I thought you were leaving this discussion?

Its just so fun.

[Iakus]

Fair enough. You'll never hear me calling anyone out for not spending money on luxury items. People have families and bills. But I do get a little twitchy reading articles like the one in the OP, wanting half price for stuff I'm paying full price for, just because...well just because. It's too far.

Except they did pay full price for it.  WHen the game was first released and they assumed their game would be fully supported.

 

Now they have to spend several hundred dollars on a new console and buy another copy of a game they already paid for in order to get a properly supported copy.

[Avejajed]

Except they did pay full price for it. WHen the game was first released and they assumed their game would be fully supported.

Now they have to spend several hundred dollars on a new console and buy another copy of a game they already paid for in order to get a properly supported copy.

And still paying less for theirs total (including both copies) than I did a year and a half ago.

[Al Foley]

Except they did pay full price for it.  WHen the game was first released and they assumed their game would be fully supported.

 

Now they have to spend several hundred dollars on a new console and buy another copy of a game they already paid for in order to get a properly supported copy.

Funny I did not make that assumption.  Granted I did not specifically think it wouldn't be supported either, especially in the realm of DLC, but the mere fact of the matter is that the PS3/ 360 version is an inferior version of the game, so I wasn't expecting the same level of dedication when it came to fixing it.  

[Panda]

And still paying less for theirs total (including both copies) than I did a year and a half ago.

 

What does it matter how much you payed for your PC? It's unrelated completely.

 

Also I can't comprehend why you keep shitting on people who are victims of unfair treatment here. You said it's fun so I guess you enjoy other people's misery.

 

Seriously you aren't the harmed party so you shouldn't have any pull in this. Come to say how Bioware is just business company and it's their right to cut of customers who bought their game in good faith to them after PC gets dropped.

[chrstnmonks]

What does it matter how much you payed for your PC? It's unrelated completely.

 

Also I can't comprehend why you keep shitting on people who are victims of unfair treatment here. You said it's fun so I guess you enjoy other people's misery.

 

Seriously you aren't the harmed party so you shouldn't have any pull in this. Come to say how Bioware is just business company and it's their right to cut of customers who bought their game in good faith to them after PC gets dropped.

I am on pc and many games that I would love to play are console exclusive. Is that fair? No. You have the right to patches and bugfixes I can agree with that. But where you lose me is when you say support means DLC. It simply does not. Like it or not if you want to play DAI new Dlc you will have to upgrade because Bioware stance is not going to change.

[Zanallen]

I am on pc and many games that I would love to play are console exclusive. Is that fair? No. You have the right to patches and bugfixes I can agree with that. But where you lose me is when you say support means DLC. It simply does not. Like it or not if you want to play DAI new Dlc you will have to upgrade because Bioware stance is not going to change.

 

This. And I'll add that more than likely, Bioware isn't going to fix anything else beyond DLC issues or multiplayer.

[Panda]

I am on pc and many games that I would love to play are console exclusive. Is that fair? No. You have the right to patches and bugfixes I can agree with that. But where you lose me is when you say support means DLC. It simply does not. Like it or not if you want to play DAI new Dlc you will have to upgrade because Bioware stance is not going to change.

 

How many games you have on PC that have console exclusive DLC's? Exclusivity deals aren't nice, but at least you know they are exclusive before hand. It's not like there isn't XBOX exclusive games I'd like to play.

 

When you buy game you will automatically think you can also buy DLC's for your platform. Otherwise you couldn't buy the game before all DLC's  were released.

[GithCheater]

And still paying less for theirs total (including both copies) than I did a year and a half ago.

Was the Inquisitor edition worth the money?

[Avejajed]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

Let me clarify a few things-

 

First. I don't have a gaming PC. I have an xbox 360 and an xbox one. 

 

Second. I apologize if it seemed as though I throw my money in your face. Truth is, I know how hard it can be to make ends meet sometimes, and I don't begrudge anyone their inability to afford gaming, which can be an expensive hobby. I work hard for my money, and last year I held down three jobs to help me pay for the things I wanted. I have bills and insurance and a family just like everyone else. I just think it's hard for me to wrap my head around someone who spends any amount of time on this forum talking about their video games -as being truly poor. I mean let's be honest. You have a computer or a smart phone, and internet service, and you pay for video games, and you have whatever subscription service... If you are truly poor I think perhaps a re-arrangement of priorities is in order. Of course I will allow that many of you, I'm sure, are young enough to live at home and depend on your parents financially.

 

Listen, I'm sorry you're all so upset. I'm sorry you're all taking this so personally. I think some of you are going a little far, though. Bioware doesn't owe any of us anything. They didn't promise us future content or patches or support, not last gen, not next gen, not PC. And I'm unsure why you seem to think I have such a superior copy. There are plenty of bugs and issues on the next-gen consoles that will never get fixed. Things like this just happen. The decision was made for whatever business or artistic reasons and it's done. The way I see it, and maybe this is the sadistic sociopath talking, but the way I see it, you have two choices. Upgrade or come to terms with the fact you wont be playing any future Bioware games - and probably not any games soon enough.

 

My grandparents were both put into hospice care back in 2007, and they came to live with us so we could take care of them. About two weeks before my grandpa died my grandma accidentally fell out of her bed in the middle of the night trying to get a pill. When we came in, grandpa was sitting up in bed grinning. We asked why he pushed her and he goes "I told her to put out or get out."

 

That's how I feel about this situation. Put out or get out. I'm not saying you have to get out of the forum, because it's a free country and you're certainly able to voice your opinion, as long as you realize voicing your opinion isn't going to do you any good, but you're going to have to eventually upgrade or you're going to be left behind. And not just by Bioware and EA.

 

I may be direct and to the point, and I may be snarky at times, but I'm not a sociopath. I'm a human being, and I have feelings too. I've loved and lost and cried and been filled with joy and filled with despair and loss. I may call you silly for complaining about something so trivial when you could just go and buy a new console like you should have done to begin with- but I've never called you stupid or a bad person. I've never called you guys trolls or anything, so I'm not sure you're doing it to me. When I said this thread was fun, I meant it. I enjoy the arguments. I enjoy the debate. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

Now, I've gotten that all off my chest so I'm going to go back to work. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Except they did pay full price for it. WHen the game was first released and they assumed their game would be fully supported.

Now they have to spend several hundred dollars on a new console and buy another copy of a game they already paid for in order to get a properly supported copy.

Define properly.

They got the game they bought. The 360 version is that game. It got fewer patches and less DLC, and also had terrible graphics.

The XBONE version is different. It gets more support, and has better graphics.

The PC version is different again. It gets support, allows a wider variety of input devices, the graphics are scalable to match the hardware, and is somewhat moddable.

Why do you think the different versions should all get the same level of post-release support?

[frankf43]

Anyone who is thinking of upgrading to an Xbox 1 the game is available as part of the EA Vault. The monthly subscription is a bit steep but if you get in as an annual price it's quite reasonable especially as you get discounts on digital downloaded games and dlcs.  

[Spankatola]

People didn't return games cause they expected patches.

 

You are here getting mad at people who can't get access to DLC content and that somehow makes you mature person? This wasn't unfair business practice towards you and you aren't the harmed party here. Your stance here is new gen player who has access to everything s/he wants getting mad at people who don't and are upset over it. I don't even know how you are related to this.

 

Patches they got. Nor am I mad at anyone. But...really? You REALLY don't know how I'm related to this? In a game where the devs made the choice to develop on 5 platforms for a bunch of ungrateful people, dragging an anchor around the development process for the version I ended up with, for your benefit? To my detriment? So much so that to make the game BETTER, they dropped your platform? Yeah, I'm related to this.

 

Except they did pay full price for it.  WHen the game was first released and they assumed their game would be fully supported.

 

Now they have to spend several hundred dollars on a new console and buy another copy of a game they already paid for in order to get a properly supported copy.

 

Fully supported. Properly supported. Meaning what? More patches forever? Perfect bug-free gaming? Access to all DLCs? Three completely unrealistic concepts? No. They paid for what they got, just like everyone else.

[Panda]

Patches they got. Nor am I mad at anyone. But...really? You REALLY don't know how I'm related to this? In a game where the devs made the choice to develop on 5 platforms for a bunch of ungrateful people, dragging an anchor around the development process for the version I ended up with, for your benefit? To my detriment? So much so that to make the game BETTER, they dropped your platform? Yeah, I'm related to this.

 

 

Fully supported. Properly supported. Meaning what? More patches forever? Perfect bug-free gaming? Access to all DLCs? Three completely unrealistic concepts? No. They paid for what they got, just like everyone else.

 

Cry me a river. You aren't victim here, you knew before release that the game was going to be cross-gen game developed also for PS3 and XBOX360. None has mislead you about it. You are just being elitist as heck.