Because they had this really silly thought in their head that if they buy a game on a particular platform it will be supported on that platform for the entire cycle of the game.
Customers are funny that way.
It's not silly at all. People have the right to be pissed. It doesn't mean they're entitled to anything for their expectations.
It's not a perfect analogy. If you want to get anal about it, then pretend I'm talking about tapes. Hell if you want to talk about old-gen, then a gramophone record is more applicable
... The point still stands.
Someone call the analogy police.
It's impossible for them to be the same base package, because different systems are constructed in inherently different ways. The game may be the same, but it's still adapted for different systems. To put it simply, if a PS3 and a PS4 DAI are built and function in the exact same way, then what's the point of upgrading?
If you want to get anal about it yet again, then suppose that the two types of scuba gear look and feel the same, but suit A is made of advanced materials that support a camera while suit B doesn't. At the time, the consumer wasn't aware of that fact because it was irrelevant to the scuba diving experience. In the future, the creators of the scuba gear decide to construct a camera that can only work on suit A. If you bought suit B, then tough luck.
There. Happy?
1.A vinyl record is also a popular method used to transfer to digital because of the sound quality of vinyl record based music which can't be reproduced.
2.The suit obviously has the camera support to begin with so the consumer has the choice, in this case of software the consumer was never told that they'd not be getting any future DLC until 8 months later.
I think Bioware needs to make a remake of DA:I exclusivly on the next-gen, so us poor XB1/PS4 users can get a version of the game unencumbered by the last gen.
*sips lemon-cactus soft drink*
I'd love old-gen exclusive DAI as well. Maybe it wouldn't crash so much and have shitty textures then.
1.A vinyl record is also a popular method used to transfer to digital because of the sound quality of vinyl record based music which can't be reproduced.
You're relentless T_T...
Fine....er... how about we forgo the digital part entirely. Imagine you own a gramaphone record but new music is released on a tape. Also, imagine you're in a pre-Windows world.
Inb4 you tell me there's a way to transfer that.
2.The suit obviously has the camera support to begin with so the consumer has the choice, in this case of software the consumer was never told that they'd not be getting any future DLC until 8 months later.
No it doesn't. Old-gen console owners should be aware of the limitations of the system. The entire premise of stopping DLC for old-gen software is that old-gen is incapable of supporting it. Are you really shocked that a 9-year old system has potential issues for any additions to the base game? That's like me complaining that my shitty PC can't handle blood textures from the Rome Total War 2 Blood and Gore DLC, even though it can run Rome Total War 2 if barely.
The suit didn't have camera support to begin with because it's an old suit made with different materials that are incapable of doing so. The producers of the suit didn't realize that camera functionality for the shittier suit was impossible at the time of release. but came to that conclusion later.
Considering that they sold both suits as being capable of letting you go underwater and fulfill their purpose, then any additions to your scuba diving experience are at their discretion. They don't HAVE to release it to all suits.
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All this talk of scuba diving makes me want to go to the beach.
1.A vinyl record is also a popular method used to transfer to digital because of the sound quality of vinyl record based music which can't be reproduced.
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That made me laugh. You're right--the subjective warm and dimensional quality of analog recordings played back through tube amps can't be reproduced in the cold digital domain. Yet here are all these people transferring vinyl discs to the digital domain, accumulating the flaws of both in one place. Stick with one or the other. Don't mix them. Even 24-bit, 192k-sps isn't going to make this any less true (because, you know if those specs are good enough to reproduce vinyl, they're good enough to be used directly to record music, bypassing the mechanical flaws of vinyl).
When did you buy both versions and what was the price?
I do not "foresee" a "logical" issue with lovely next gen console owners, given that the vast majority of next gen console owners (you being an exception) only bought the game once, while last gen owners already bought DAI once on last gen, and will be paying an additional amount ($15??) for the next gen download.
Perhaps this hypothetical offer can be limited to those who have downloaded and paid for "Jaws" DLC
By the way, I own DAI on PC and do not own a console.
I feel strongly about this as a quality assurance engineer, and believe that excellent companies should be ethical and offer good "value" for new AND exisitng customers.
At release, and mid May. 59.99 the first time...not so sure about the second time in all honesty Don't remember, but it was at least 49.99.
That made me laugh. You're right--the subjective warm and dimensional quality of analog recordings played back through tube amps can't be reproduced in the cold digital domain. Yet here are all these people transferring vinyl discs to the digital domain, accumulating the flaws of both in one place. Stick with one or the other. Don't mix them. Even 24-bit, 192k-sps isn't going to make this any less true (because, you know if those specs are good enough to reproduce vinyl, they're good enough to be used directly to record music, bypassing the mechanical flaws of vinyl).
I'd love old-gen exclusive DAI as well. Maybe it wouldn't crash so much and have shitty textures then.
It probably would, considering it would still be on the old-gen. Perhaps if they scaled everything down even more, in area-size, graphic-quality, and removed the few movements the already static NPC's make, it could work.
While they're at it - maybe make another version exclusively for high-end PC's.
*adjusts monocle*
It probably would, considering it would still be on the old-gen. Perhaps if they scaled everything down even more, in area-size, graphic-quality, and removed the few movements the already static NPC's make, it could work.
While there at it - maybe make another version exclusively for high-end PC's.
*adjusts monocle*
Nope, it would work lot better cause then everything wouldn't be designed new-gen first and then tried to fit to old gen It would likely be best game PS3 ever had, now the quality is just soo low. Textures worse than DA2 and so on.
More entitled people whining, nothing to see here move along.
More entitled people whining, nothing to see here move along.
They were absolutely entitled to know before purchasing the product that full support had a giant asterix next to it.More entitled people whining, nothing to see here move along.
Says the guy who complained that the Qunari spoils dlc was bugged. I smell hypocrisy
Mocked would be the appropriate word, given they couldn't fix the bugs within the 2 week delay. Tinting colors doesn't mean much to me in the long run, I'll live.
They were absolutely entitled to know before purchasing the product that full support had a giant asterix next to it.
Before release BW had plenty of opportunities to be honest and say straight up that people purchasing on older systems wouldn't be able to access all content coming for the game.
Instead when questioned on it they said how scalable the FB engine is.
Entitled to all the facts about the product before purchase, it's pretty much a consumer right. 'Forgetting' to mention that not all DLC is going to be available is a pretty big thing to leave out of the sales pitch.
Le sigh. That's not how it works junior.
If you are looking to jump to PS4 then DAI is actually half price in the Summer sale at the moment (in Europe. Not sure about anywhere else). As is the JoH DLC.
So, yeah. That's a thing.
Carry on..
I got DA:I for my Xbox One, and I'm torn about that decision.
On one hand, I understand the decision to leave last gen behind. People complain about Destiny NOT doing this. They feel that they are getting shafted because them making sure DLC and features can be implemented on older consoles and believe that the game could be more feature rich if they made DLC that was specifically catered to current gen instead of toning it down so PS3 and 360 can handle it... I understand from a technological aspect why they would choose this.
On the other hand, I'm sure that I'd be pretty upset if I got this for my 360 and discovered later that I wouldn't be getting any future content releases. People understandably feel duped. How would console owners feel if they decided that they're going strictly PC because PCs offer more flexibility on allowing them to create vast content or if they abandoned PCs because they feel console releases could reach a broader audience?
I think they should at least do what State of Decay(Xbox) did. With their HD re-release, they offered an automatic 30% discount to people who purchased the game on 360. I personally think in this case, they should do a pretty hefty discount since they kind of pulled the rug out from under 360 and PS3 owners.
If the Dlc is important for the story,and is meant to be a bridge for the sequel i cannot blame them to want more DLC,kinda like Legacy,for now is only good for them to not be supplied with more "Dlc".
These analogies are all stupid.
I think DAI should be cheaper for all the next Gen users who already shelled out the hundreds the last Gen users are so hesitant to part with, clutching at their dollar bills.
I paid $499 for my Xbox one which I got almost specifically to play the version of DAI the devs intended. I paid $60 for the game.
Right now, Xbox ones are $349, and an already discounted game, but let's keep it at full price for the two games you'll eventually buy, your original and the new one to run on your new Xbox.
$469 is the total you'll be paying for a new game and a console plus what you've already paid for your old game.
I already paid $559 for ONE game and my Xbox.
So stop complaining about getting screwed over. No you aren't. You're paying a hundred dollars less than I had to for the privilege of playing the same game on the same console.
And what if the developers decided that from now on, DLC will be for the PC only?
Even though I'm a PS3 user I'm not bummed out about it anymore. There's only so much attention I can give to something like this before I reassess my prioritizes. I already have the game and don't feel the need to upgrade just to purchase new DLC.
The people I still feel bad for are the PS3 owners who want to upgrade to XBone and 360 owners who want to upgrade to PS4, since they can't use the save transfer feature.
And what if the developers decided that from now on, DLC will be for the PC only?
Who doesn't have a pc in this day and age? I already bought a copy for PC anyway, for mods. I've done that for every game.
What this really boils down to is a) people are cheap and 2) people are too attached to the way things used to be.
They aren't too poor to have a Xbox gold membership or whatever playstation uses, internet access, and funds to buy a $60 game plus DLC.Yeah, it's only because people are cheap and not things like medical bills, housing, or people are poor and can barely pay for a new system. Guess it's their fault for being poor /s
They aren't too poor to have a Xbox gold membership or whatever playstation uses, internet access, and funds to buy a $60 game plus DLC.
If you're really too poor, consider reevaluating your financial priorities.
Scathing.
Yeah, it's only because people are cheap and not things like medical bills, housing, or people are poor and can barely pay for a new system. Guess it's their fault for being poor /s
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