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Is the Black Emporium's Staff of Corruption now the best staff?


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CosmicGnosis

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The Staff of Corruption schematic is only available in the Black Emporium, and it seems to be the best staff now. Is there widespread agreement on this?

 

Also, what are the best materials for a mage staff? I assume some dragon materials are recommended, but are there any others that should be considered?



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I like the staff

 

If I don't have dragon bone, I use any tier 3 metal for damage and the 3 slots I use everite for attack. I believe it give 56% attack. My only complaint is that a grip and blade can't be added. Oh well. 


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Depends on what you want, really. One mage might want the one with lots of utility slots, while another mage with that fire passive that makes you able to use a spell with no cooldown if you critical hit will prefer the staff with 3 leather-based offense slots on it so they can get a high critical chance with great bear hides... My last mage Inquisitor fell into that second camp. I had something like a 50% or 60% critical chance thanks to one of the BE's "legendary" staff schematics, it was amazing with how many spells I could unleash in short time thanks to having such a high critical chance with that passive.

 

So again, it depends on what the mage needs. There's 3 ultimate staff schematics the BE sells, and all of them have their uses.



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In terms of value, I think the Wrath of Lovias is the best choice. It costs less than the other two, but has the same damage stats. Plus, 20 Leather Offense is extremely rare. There is only one other schematic, a bow, that has 20 Leather Offense slots.

 

For pure damage dealing, Lovias gives the most bang for the buck.


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In terms of value, I think the Wrath of Lovias is the best choice. It costs less than the other two, but has the same damage stats. Plus, 20 Leather Offense is extremely rare. There is only one other schematic, a bow, that has 20 Leather Offense slots.


Indeed. As I said, and it bares repeating:

flashpoint + Wrath of Lovias (made with 20 great bear leathers)= nonstop casting



Even better for a rift mage, with their insane mana regen combined with constant no-cooldown casting due to flashpoint. You pretty much never have to basic attack ever again.

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Wrath of Lovias also allows for both a staff grip and a staff blade. Veil Quartz from JOH if you want tier 4 Electrical Damage. Dragon Bone for tier 4 fire damage.



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Wrath of Lovias also allows for both a staff grip and a staff blade. 

I thought I remembered that, but the wiki says it doesn't! Which calls into question whether the damage stats are the same (I got that from the wiki too).

 

http://dragonage.wik...apon_schematics

 

I recall that the metal slot, which controls damage, had a lower count than for Corruption or Archon, which would be more consistent with the lower cost. Wiki says they are the same, but that's got to be wrong.



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Iirc they are the same... It's not the damage that differentiates them.

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I thought I remembered that, but the wiki says it doesn't! Which calls into question whether the damage stats are the same (I got that from the wiki too).
 
http://dragonage.wik...apon_schematics
 
I recall that the metal slot, which controls damage, had a lower count than for Corruption or Archon, which would be more consistent with the lower cost. Wiki says they are the same, but that's got to be wrong.


All 3 legendary emporium staffs have the same damage, I can absolutely confirm that. I can also confirm that only one of them has attachment slots... Staff of Lovias, again. Trust me, last playthrough I bought all 3 staff designs and made a different one for each mage. All 3 showed the same damage score.

edit:

The wiki got it right on another section.

http://dragonage.wik...atics_of_Legend

http://dragonage.wik...ption_Schematic

http://dragonage.wik...Staff_Schematic

http://dragonage.wik...ovias_Schematic

All have 24 metal for damage.

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Wait!  Wrath of Lovias has Upgrade slots?!!!

 

The Wikia listed none of the BE staff schematics as having upgrade slots, does this mean there are other BE schematics of legend that also include upgrade slots as well?!

 

Damn!  I have to go and check this out now...



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Staff of corruption looks nice and even on a crit build you can put in dragon webbing to boost crit damage by insane amounts. You just have to make sure you boost crit chance through other items.

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The Staff of Corruption schematic allows for a high Attack% boost and Flanking Damage boost. Wrath of Lovias schematic is best for critical chance builds that want a guaranteed Flashpoint activation.



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Wait!  Wrath of Lovias has Upgrade slots?!!!
 
The Wikia listed none of the BE staff schematics as having upgrade slots, does this mean there are other BE schematics of legend that also include upgrade slots as well?!
 
Damn!  I have to go and check this out now...

A) Don't trust everything you read in Wikia because, B) anyone can edit those pages. I just did. :) I fixed the upgrade slot error.

http://dragonage.wik...ovias_Schematic

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Wait!  Wrath of Lovias has Upgrade slots?!!!

 

The Wikia listed none of the BE staff schematics as having upgrade slots, does this mean there are other BE schematics of legend that also include upgrade slots as well?!

 

Damn!  I have to go and check this out now...

 

Axe of the Dragon Hunter (Pommel and Haft) and the Coiled Spring dagger (grip) are two other Schematic Legends (that I know of) that can accommodate upgrade slots.


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I like the staff

 

If I don't have dragon bone, I use any tier 3 metal for damage and the 3 slots I use everite for attack. I believe it give 56% attack. My only complaint is that a grip and blade can't be added. Oh well. 

 

It's not really much of a loss. Staff of Corruption has 38 secondary slots total, which comes out to the same as Wrath of Lovias with Tier 3 Grip & Blade. You only really lose out if you manage to get tier 3 masterworks grip/blade. IIRC its basically the same deal with all non-upgradable schematics of legend.

 

They did it a lot better than with the high tier race specific armours where you do lose out on a lot of secondary slots. 



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Staff of Corruption doesn't have upgrade slots because of its unique look. You would have to remove the snakes to put on a staff head, and that would be tragic.



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In terms of value, I think the Wrath of Lovias is the best choice. It costs less than the other two, but has the same damage stats. Plus, 20 Leather Offense is extremely rare. There is only one other schematic, a bow, that has 20 Leather Offense slots.

 

For pure damage dealing, Lovias gives the most bang for the buck.

 

What he said.

 

Definitely Wrath of Lovias, because it's also fully upgradable.  Much more flexibility if you've got a specific idea in mind.



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Wrath of Lovias, master power of crit and it's possible to get it very early in the game, since black emporium came out I stopped using anything else for my mage.

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Even after the new DLC, Staff of Corruption and Wrath of Lovais haven't been dethroned. the Lyrium-Infused Staff Schematic is about on par with the Hakkon's Wisdom Schematic.



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I adore the look of the new Lyrium-infused Staff, and always liked the design of Staff of Corruption. But thanks to you fantastic people, I LOVE having my mages use The Wrath of Lovias (especially since I pretty much need to make use of Flashpoint. It's Mage "crack"!). B)

Also started using the Coiled Spring schematic. Again, there are some better looking daggers, but the build you can craft with those.....love it!
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Flashpoint is great when you have at least 50% Critical Chance, giving you a reliable way to proc it while also leaving you with plenty of room to improve Attack and Critical Damage. 


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I adore the look of the new Lyrium-infused Staff, and always liked the design of Staff of Corruption. But thanks to you fantastic people, I LOVE having my mages use The Wrath of Lovias (especially since I pretty much need to make use of Flashpoint. It's Mage "crack"!). B)

Also started using the Coiled Spring schematic. Again, there are some better looking daggers, but the build you can craft with those.....love it!

 

Excellent reason to do something.  If you like it, you'll figure out a way to use it to your advantage.  Well done!

 

My favorite reason for the upgrade-ready schemes is that they allow for so many play-styles.  I was looking at CorneliuS' staff, and thinking that exact thing.  I usually build for stats and function, and like the Archmage staff blade with the constitution boost for my fragile little mages.  The offense in the grip slot is cool, but for where I am right now, I still might want some guard coverage and go with the inscribed(?) grip.  It's got metal for offense and I've lots of volcanic aurum.  I don't usually go for spirit runes, because for me, they work best on cold staffs, so I went with a master corruption for the gorguts and the Hakkonites.  Despair demons, no problem.  Next up is a good electrical staff with a superb corruption rune and a better fire one with a cleansing rune for the Arbor Wilds.

 

As far as other weapons go, trial and error.  I like the Axe of Green Edges, and it's not too expensive, with lots of leather offense.  I found out the cool dagger that looks like a skeletal hand doesn't have slots.  Oops.  I'll know for next time.  I'm saving up for Coiled Spring, actually.


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Personally I use staff of corruption as my main staff enchanted with dragon webbing (around +70% crit damage), everite (attack), and great bear hide. The rest of my crit chance comes from other sources.

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Staff of Corruption doesn't have upgrade slots because of its unique look. You would have to remove the snakes to put on a staff head, and that would be tragic.

Staff head? Honestly, I don't mean to pick on you Orion, but disagreeing with your posts is turning into a full-time job. :)

 

Customizing a staff never changes the head design. Only the grip/shaft and blade (other end).


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One thing to keep in mind, Staff of Corruption is still be best for the raw attack power boost if you use a lot of damage over time effects since many of those can't crit and a few have been only recently been patched to do so in multiplayer for balance reasons. 


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