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[Innarra]

1st, before bans start flying out every which way and the community is set ablaze, maybe the devs could figure out how to fix the exploit? 

 

Likely not going to happen, especially for the PS3 and Xbox360.

[Silversmurf]

Wasn't referring to the amount of XP, rather time required per promotion.

 

same thing

 

x4 exp

x4 gold

1/4 time spent

[Proto]

same thing

 

x4 exp

x4 gold

1/4 time spent

 

Whatever. 

 

 

[xsvTOYZ]

its fixed for the past hour

[Yumi]

What's fixed?

[Ispan]

its fixed for the past hour

 

...please be true.  This whole thing just needs to be over

[Campout King]

Jesus Chrisp... another thread about the effin glitch.... i shoulda known

[xsvTOYZ]

What's fixed?

the fact DAI cant connect       the other is another matter entirely

[ruggie]

It's still over 2x xp lol. Anyway the board is dumb anyway before this bug I had more core stats than players 10-15 spots ahead. It's more of a who had more time and time in the weekend to do the challenges than who is good or bad. Then no body cared when it was a few people cheating but now that it's popular everyone wants banned. I only want to see 2 people on ps3 banned and both have been cheating for more than a week or 2

[Johnsen1972]

I dont think you read the part that its incredibly easy to accidentally do. Im fully admitting to being in glitched lobbies that ive hosted by complete accident. Should i be banned because bioware allowed a bug to exist in their game?

 

Porky, yes it's mainly Biowares fault too. They should have fixed it faster.

 

But do you think its fair that some people used it to level 4,5 times faster then others because they ONLY used glitched lobbies?

And no, its NOT easily "accidently" to do. It happend for me once that I accidently created a bugged lobby and I played thousand of games. But its easily to exploit if you know how.

 

Im sure Bioware can set some queries in the character database to figure out who really exploited the bug. If someone has only been in bugged lobbies the last weeks, its more then obvious. And those people should be banned. 

 

Companies like Blizzard would have banned those people. Not sure what Bioware will do. They are not as professional regarding multiplayer titles. ( besides the SWTOR team)

 

It looks like that Im crying for bans. Im actually not. I dont want to shrink the community even more.

But if they dont want to loose credibility they should do something. Exploiters should get at least some kind of punishment.

[Yumi]

When people keep bringing up bans, I get confused. Are we talking 3 day, 7, day, or 14 day bans? Or are we talking permanent bans.

If we are talking permanent bans, please by all means continue down this vein.

I'll happily go PenguinFetish all over this board.

Honestly, permabans? When has any company in the history of gaming banned an entire 1/2 or 1/3 of their entire player base?

Either way if hundreds or thousands of permabans are handed down I'm out. I'm here to play a video game, not be a stone-throwing holier-than-thou SJW. If the people I actually like to play with get banned.... Pfffft. You can kiss me and my future platinum good bye.

[Pork]

It looks like that Im crying for bans. Im actually not. 

 

Yes you are. Thats exactly what you are doing.

[Denrok1]

Porky, yes it's mainly Biowares fault too. They should have fixed it faster.

 

But do you think its fair that some people used it to level 4,5 times faster then others because they ONLY used glitched lobbies?

And no, its NOT easily "accidently" to do. It happend for me once that I accidently created a bugged lobby and I played thousand of games. But its easily to exploit if you know how.

 

Im sure Bioware can set some queries in the character database to figure out who really exploited the bug. If someone has only been in bugged lobbies the last weeks, its more then obvious. And those people should be banned. 

 

Companies like Blizzard would have banned those people. Not sure what Bioware will do. They are not as professional regarding multiplayer titles. ( besides the SWTOR team)

 

It looks like that Im crying for bans. Im actually not. I dont want to shrink the community even more.

But if they dont want to loose credibility they should do something. Exploiters should get at least some kind of punishment.

 

If it is easy, just have the glitched stats taken away. If not, rewind their characters to the day the last patch came out. This is all in Bioware's hands though. \m/

[Rhorim]

More than likely they'll make examples out of the most hardcore glitchers and hope it will be enough of a deterrent.  Course that is IF they do anything at all, might just say no harm no foul.

[Sulaco_7]

Part of me wants them to do a mass banning - just because it would be hilarious.  

 

But, they are not stupid, and the game is still a business.  I'm guessing they'll ban a handful of exploiters.. but not anything on the scale that would dent the player base.

 

I also don't see them doing any other kind of punishments except for bans.  They have only mentioned bans, and in mass effect 3, they only handed out bans.  Things like negative XP, erasing stats, etc., I think are unlikely.

[Denrok1]

...please be true.  This whole thing just needs to be over

 

It is not fixed. I just had a buddy of mine message me he just ditched out of a bugged lobby.

[Kissraven]

Humor Time!

 

(Trumpet Sound)  Welcome to DAMP Forum Theatre! 

Name of play: To Cheat or Not to Cheat...

 

Act 1: Overreaction - "Ban everyone and off with their heads!"

Act 2: Overreaction to Act 1's Overreaction - "Your a horrible person for even saying the word Ban, off with your head!"

Act 3: Under-Reaction - "Eye Roll, just do nothing and play the game"

Act 4: Silence of the Dev's - "We saw what you did last summer, we are always watching  "

Act 5: Fin - "Maintenance, but still the bittersweet sound of Prestige rising at an alarming rate"

 

Alas this play must be considered a tragedy as the Montagues and Capulets will never get along...sniff sniff...

[Kissraven]

I dont think you realise how easy it is to do. I get the glitch at least once per session while im hosting. There is no way to distinguish between genuine exploiters and people who have done it accidentally as far as i can tell. Hell, the pugs i was with could have thought i was exploiting when that couldnt be further from the truth.

Honestly if bioware actually tested things thoroughly before throwing out patches then we would not have this. If we had good netcoding then this bug wouldnt exist. Ever heard the phrase: Dont hate the player, hate the game? This is biowares fault. Not the players fault. Poor netcoding and even poorer QA is the reason this bug exists in the first place. We should be asking for improved QA and netcoding, not for resources to be focussed on banning people who gained a few illegitimate promotions.

 

Hello, I am curious about your post. On the Xbox One the glitch needs some form of a host migration to my understanding in order to cause the 2x (or 4x or flipping just say annoying xp glitch. lol) to occur. In your post you do not state your platform, but make it sound like you could be the host by choice and still have a glitched lobby. My understanding again on Xbone is that is not possible, so is there another aspect to this glitch?

 

I know in a pug lobby the host could leave and maybe you meant that then if you stayed you would be then become host and the lobby may become glitched... If so then I can feel your frustration, but would think after a few minutes of extra gold popping up or super awesome kill streaks then you could quit and either create your own lobby or try a quick match again. Thus limiting your time in a glitched lobby. 

 

I am not saying you are fault or that I expect everyone to bail once the glitch occurs. After all one of my closer DAMP buddies Courtnehh has issues with matchmaking due to being in the UK and I feel his frustration when trying to avoid glitched lobbies, but having no luck in getting players when he creates the game. I also do not think most of the people who advocate bans want a majority of the player base banned, but rather just the few who have abused the glitch. Defining abuse can be tricky though.

 

Your point about BioWare though is something I completely agree with, and even more so I wish they would post something on the game stating what constitutes abuse and the actions they plan to take for anyone who does abuse it.

[Johnsen1972]

Yes you are. Thats exactly what you are doing.

 

Trust me porky, I don t want you to be banned. I actually dont care about E dong leaderboards. Go and exploit the hell our of the game.

 

Its just my humble opinion that what you and others did was wrong. And the guy who made the exploit public would have been be banned by Blizzard.

 

But Bioware is different. They dont enforce their rules.

 

So I dont think anyone will be banned or punished anyway.

 

DAI MP is an exloiter heaven.

[Denrok1]

Trust me porky, I don t want you to be banned. I actually dont care about E dong leaderboards. Go and exploit the hell our of the game.

 

Its just my humble opinion that what you and others did was wrong. And the guy who made the exploit public would have been be banned by Blizzard.

 

But Bioware is different. They dont enforce their rules.

 

So I dont think anyone will be banned or punished anyway.

 

DAI MP is an exloiter heaven.

 

Don't jump to conclusions just yet Johnsen. Billy and Blair said they are looking into the exploiters. Keep posting on the forums demanding for fair play. We will get results. I am as upset and frustrated as you are. Report the cheaters at help.ea.com and move on from there. I keep a prestige log for the people I reported.

 

Ex: Player A that I reported gained 90 prestige points over the past 8 days. That averages out to 11.25 prestige points per day.

[TormDK]

Nothing wrong with banning players that did serious exploitation of this issue, it shouldn't be too hard to track either.

[Kissraven]

So my last post got me thinking. (Yes that's dangerous)

 

I am now wondering what does the DAMP Forum Community consider to be "Abuse" from a Prestige standpoint?

 

Prestige Levels Gained From Glitching

25 Lvls 

50 Lvls

100 Lvls

200 Lvls

300 Lvls

 

Or is it more based on the amount of levels gained in 1 glitch session? Or being in a long session multiple times?

 

Please keep in mind that over the last 8 days there are some players who have broken the 100 Prestige gained mark (mostly via promotions and few on a leaderboard have many challenges left), which legitimately would require close to 24/7 gaming during this span. Other posters numbers of 90min per promotion are fairly correct for anyone with around 400-500hrs or more in multiplayer I'd say, and anyone with much lower time/promotions it would probably take longer if not with a stronger group. 

 

So just curiosity on what other see as "Abuse" since my personal opinion is that anyone who has actively worked to use the glitch since Luke initially suggested not to (during the double xp weekend) is "Abusing" the glitch and violating the ToS. I do not want bans for the entire community though, so that means there needs to be a benchmark. I'm leaning toward 100 points since the patch (Sans any challenge points), as I feel this is hard to reach if you only play a few games in a glitch lobby each day since it started, but players actively seeking this can reach that threshold easily. Oh, and in a perfect world just the erroneous XP would be taken away and no bans, but I see that as wishful thinking.

[Denrok1]

So my last post got me thinking. (Yes that's dangerous)

 

I am now wondering what does the DAMP Forum Community consider to be "Abuse" from a Prestige standpoint?

 

Prestige Levels Gained From Glitching

25 Lvls 

50 Lvls

100 Lvls

200 Lvls

300 Lvls

 

 

Time spent in glitched lobbies good sir. Anyone over -1.5 standard deviations (on the bell curve) of all players' time spent in the glitched lobbies is considered abuse in my book.

[Kissraven]

Time spent in glitched lobbies good sir. Anyone over -1.5 standard deviations (on the bell curve) of all players spent in the glitched lobbies is considered abuse in my book.

 

I guess that is what adds to part of the confusion for the community. The top tier of players not only can grind faster levels legitimately, but they also tend to play more than the average player. So really there are multiple curves for DAMP. If just being in a glitch lobby is too much, then like others have said 90% or more of player base would be expunged. I know you do not advocate that, and that's why I was wondering what the community thought could be a benchmark.

 

There are people on Xbone with around 7 prestige per day over the last week that I am pretty sure play legit, but the average of the top 100 seems to be closer to 4-5 prestige per day. (Some glitchers are as high as 11-15 per day) Obviously actual playing time can cause these numbers to fluctuate, but saying anyone over 5p/day is cheating is not so simple. Also there are more players not in the top 100 that are using the glitch and therefore no data to determine their p/day. 

 

Also, p/day is not as accurate a measuring stick since the glitch has been out for over 3 weeks and some players abused it a lot during the double xp weekend, but may have not used it much since. That's why I am curious if the community were to set a benchmark for "abuse" how many Prestige levels would it be...

 

Keep in mind that BioWare has ways of tracking all of this more accurately and they will ultimately decide who violated the ToS, but at least this discussion could help them get a sense of where the community stands. 

[Felis Menari]

Don't jump to conclusions just yet Johnsen. Billy and Blair said they are looking into the exploiters. Keep posting on the forums demanding for fair play. We will get results. I am as upset and frustrated as you are. Report the cheaters at help.ea.com and move on from there. I keep a prestige log for the people I reported.

Ex: Player A that I reported gained 90 prestige points over the past 8 days. That averages out to 11.25 prestige points per day.

It has already been stated by Bioware folks (more than once) that they are looking into the exploit issue. Carrying on with this forum based anti-exploit crusade will yield no desirable results, as regurgitating what's already been said over and over tends to simply irritate people (especially those tasked with fixing the problem).