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[Arbalest7]

Look I'm a big Bioware fan and have bought (and have kept) every product they have released from KOTOR onwards and will happily purchase new story DLC for Inquisition whenever it gets published, but from a purely practical stand point I don't understand what's going on in their heads. Dragon Age: Inquisition was released back in November of last year and now 8 months later only one actual story DLC and a few content packs have been released. The one actual story DLC was made in partnership with Microsoft to help promote the Xbox nearly half a year after release.

 

Now as stated before I'll be happy to purchase the new DLCs whenever they are released but they will be competing with Witcher 3 and its expansions as well as Fallout 4 when it is released. Plus starting next year Bioware will focus on pushing Mass Effect: Andromeda in the spot light (which I'm incredibly stocked for). Will these  story packs sell at all to non hardcore Bioware fans who have moved onto other experiences and possibly have already traded in their copies? What real selling point will these story DLCs have considering we know they are not expansions and boil down to fun little episodes with the Inquisitor and friends? Wouldn't have made more sense to have released JOH at launch to help boost sales of the Xbox versions and than release at least a few genuine story DLCs during the six months when Inquisition was basically unchallenged in the RPG market. Then leave the last one or two DLCs as little love letters to the hardcore fans who would enjoy them and most likely be the ones purchasing them. I'll be anxiously waiting for the next story DLC but right now I can't imagine Bioware will make any kind of real profit on it.

[BobZilla84]

Look I'm a big Bioware fan and have bought (and have kept) every product they have released from KOTOR onwards and will happily purchase new story DLC for Inquisition whenever it gets published, but from a purely practical stand point I don't understand what's going on in their heads. Dragon Age: Inquisition was released back in November of last year and now 8 months later only one actual story DLC and a few content packs have been released. The one actual story DLC was made in partnership with Microsoft to help promote the Xbox nearly half a year after release.
 
Now as stated before I'll be happy to purchase the new DLCs whenever they are released but they will be competing with Witcher 3 and its expansions as well as Fallout 4 when it is released. Plus starting next year Bioware will focus on pushing Mass Effect: Andromeda in the spot light (which I'm incredibly stocked for). Will these  story packs sell at all to non hardcore Bioware fans who have moved onto other experiences and possibly have already traded in their copies? What real selling point will these story DLCs have considering we know they are not expansions and boil down to fun little episodes with the Inquisitor and friends? Wouldn't have made more sense to have released JOH at launch to help boost sales of the Xbox versions and than release at least a few genuine story DLCs during the six months when Inquisition was basically unchallenged in the RPG market. Then leave the last one or two DLCs as little love letters to the hardcore fans who would enjoy them and most likely be the ones purchasing them. I'll be anxiously waiting for the next story DLC but right now I can't imagine Bioware will make any kind of real profit on it.

I agree B-Wares Dlc policy is a little idiotic though to be fair I will also be buying any Dlc for Inquisition to support B-Ware who are still one of my favorite Dev's but in truth I'm also getting Fallout 4 which I forsee being the new Skyrim "Time sink" oh and in regards to The Witcher 3 I'm foaming at the mouth for the Expansions I need more lol.
But I still think that the large gap in between the Dlc's release is unwise by the time the next Story Dlc drops alot of people will have abandoned DAI for new games mine are gonna be Battlefront & Fallout 4 as well as The Witcher 3's Expansions.That being said I will still buy the Dlcs and play them if theres time lol.

[correctamundo]

Personally I would abandon Witcher, Fallout and whatnot for a DAI story dlc.

[BobZilla84]

I am playing Elder Scrolls Online & Neverwinter currently but I still dabble on DAI abit now and then but if they released a massive Patch/Update for the SP I would get back into it but at this point they seem more focused on the MP which is fine as long as SP worked on as well.
Oh and MEA is going to be Epic I'm just hoping none of ME3's poor writing/designs gets used in MEA seriously do a better job ME Team.

[BobZilla84]

Personally I would abandon Witcher, Fallout and whatnot for a DAI story dlc.

I dont think I could abandon 2 superior RPG's"Witcher 3 & Fallout 4" just for a Dlc expecially if that Dlc ends up as more Jaws of Hakkon BS.

[Lebanese Dude]

It's true they're taking a while for SP DLC.

 

In my free time I'm keeping myself busy with random Civ5 games and Skyrim. 

 

To be honest I'll probably wait til all DAI DLC are released. I had more fun this way with ME3.

[wildannie]

I dont think I could abandon 2 superior RPG's"Witcher 3 & Fallout 4" just for a Dlc expecially if that Dlc ends up as more Jaws of Hakkon BS.

 

I did enjoy JoH and thought it was an improvement from the main game. I hope that the lack of cinematics was because it was more of a stop gap dlc and that the real effort is going into a real post end game dlc.  

I'm going to be very disappointed if the next DLC is not much more substantial than JoH.  I think the game deserves something better to do it justice.

I also think it would be beneficial if players can really see why 360 and PS3 have been dropped by the quality of the content, if it is more of the same and looks like they were dropped to save money that would be bad.

 

I don't really know much about dlc funding models but I really like it when companies are up front about the dlc they are going to make, and I can pay for it in advance.  If BW had had a 'season pass' that promised post end STORY dlcs involving character development etc.  I would have bought it months ago.  I also think that on finishing DAI many would have felt compelled to pre-order dlc if it was advertised because of the ending.  I'm a massive DA fan and I will purchase the dlc anyway but I do think the marketing 'strategy' has probably been counter productive in promoting sales from those who are less engaged in the DA world.

 

Strangely,  I'm not sure if I'll buy TW3 dlcs,  there's so much to do already its probably going to have to be really special cough/Iorveth/cough to tempt me.

[BobZilla84]

I did enjoy JoH and thought it was an improvement from the main game. I hope that the lack of cinematics was because it was more of a stop gap dlc and that the real effort is going into a real post end game dlc.  
I'm going to be very disappointed if the next DLC is not much more substantial than JoH.  I think the game deserves something better to do it justice.
I also think it would be beneficial if players can really see why 360 and PS3 have been dropped by the quality of the content, if it is more of the same and looks like they were dropped to save money that would be bad.
 
I don't really know much about dlc funding models but I really like it when companies are up front about the dlc they are going to make, and I can pay for it in advance.  If BW had had a 'season pass' that promised post end STORY dlcs involving character development etc.  I would have bought it months ago.  I also think that on finishing DAI many would have felt compelled to pre-order dlc if it was advertised because of the ending.  I'm a massive DA fan and I will purchase the dlc anyway but I do think the marketing 'strategy' has probably been counter productive in promoting sales from those who are less engaged in the DA world.
 
Strangely,  I'm not sure if I'll buy TW3 dlcs,  there's so much to do already its probably going to have to be really special cough/Iorveth/cough to tempt me.

The thing with me and JoH is it didn't deliver on the one and only flaw I had with the Main game that of course was the lack of story instead we got more pointless exploration and fetch quests with a sprinkling of Story.The remaining Dlcs have to put all the focus on Story or theres no reason to make anymore and to hell with more exploration just fix the Lack of Story.

[Cheviot]

After the uproar with day one dlc with ME3, and the fact they were developing for 5 platforms (well 4 platforms and the myriad configurations of the PC), it makes sense that they didn't start making DLC until after the release of DAI.  Doesn't matter to me, since I'm waiting for them all to be release before I get them.

[wildannie]

The thing with me and JoH is it didn't deliver on the one and only flaw I had with the Main game that of course was the lack of story instead we got more pointless exploration and fetch quests with a sprinkling of Story.The remaining Dlcs have to put all the focus on Story or theres no reason to make anymore and to hell with more exploration just fix the Lack of Story.

Its a fair point,  I really don't want to be doing any shard collecting in whatever's to come, and I kind of feel the same about tw3,  I don't need any more contracts, its got to be a good story that makes sense to play and as I understand it will not be post game, I think this could be a struggle.  

I just preferred JoH area more than much of the main game,  nice environment, better loot etc.  But I want (need) some story heavy, character heavy, cinematic heavy stuff now... probably hoping for too much.

[Jester]

Well, it's a bit weird, that we didn't even got any announcement about DLCs. At this point I'm actually wondering if we will get anything more than a next couple of $4 weapon packs and maybe another $15 map to explore. 

Which is a bit strange, I would think they would make at least 3-4 "big" DLCs (like for ME2 and ME3, hell even DA2 got 2 story DLCs), considering that EA announced that DA:I is BioWare's best selling release to date.

 

Especially considering, that if I'm on a tight budget, and BioWare will be releasing stuff in October/November, Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone are my priorities, both to purchase and to play. 

And I think that it will be the case for many people. 

 

So unless we will get another sneaky DLC release like Jaws of Hakkon, and considering that we did not even get a teaser for a new DLC, that would basically mean, that the first real story DLC comes out a whole year or more from the game's launch (or not at all).

It is definitely strange. 

 

I mean, what are those guys doing? Mass Effect has a separate team after all. 

[Pressedcat]

If I had to make a guess, I'd say that the big delay in the second story dlc and the announcement of no more dlc on last gen. consoles are connected. I suspect that BioWare had an idea for the next bit of dlc, but had major issues getting it to work on the older consoles and delayed in an attempt to find a compromise. Eventually they simply gave up, released their announcement and are now (hopefully) putting the final touches to it.

[Hunter111]

It doesn't make any sense, unless Bioware/EA's marketing team is completely incompetent.

I'm wondering at this point if:
1) DAI wasn't as financially successful as claimed. (If it was, wouldn't producing DLCs to cash in on the popularity be a priority?)
2) For whatever reason, they are having massive problems (from a technical perspective) in developing the new DLC.

Or perhaps a combination of the above.

[BobZilla84]

 
Especially considering, that if I'm on a tight budget, and BioWare will be releasing stuff in October/November, Fallout 4 and Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone are my priorities, both to purchase and to play. 
And I think that it will be the case for many people. 

I feel you I already bought my Expansion Pass for The Witcher 3 and Paid for my copy of Fallout 4 so Im good on that front but I am going to have to buy a new External HD for my XBox 1 cause the Installs eat up HD Space I mean damn oh and I am getting a new controller as well before Oct/Nov.

[BobZilla84]

Its a fair point,  I really don't want to be doing any shard collecting in whatever's to come, and I kind of feel the same about tw3,  I don't need any more contracts, its got to be a good story that makes sense to play and as I understand it will not be post game, I think this could be a struggle.

I would love more Witcher Contracts they where my favorite part of TW3 I hope we get lots more of them in the Expansions

[Narcosynthesis]

If I had to make a guess, I'd say that the big delay in the second story dlc and the announcement of no more dlc on last gen. consoles are connected. I suspect that BioWare had an idea for the next bit of dlc, but had major issues getting it to work on the older consoles and delayed in an attempt to find a compromise. Eventually they simply gave up, released their announcement and are now (hopefully) putting the final touches to it.

 

Yeah, I think you may be right there. I doubt that they weren't aware of the benefits of earlier releases and I'd also guess that EA would push for "as early as possible" if given the chance. So I agree: the reason could very much be "There were some severe issues delaying what we originally wanted" rather than "It was our plan from the beginning". Another explanation (the one I'd prefer to be true) could be that whatever coming is just simply huge and takes that much of development time, but that's probably just me hoping there...

[BobZilla84]

I hate the silence we know theres going to be more Dlc how much though thats still up in the air I have a feeling we will get the Leaked Qunari Invasion Dlc and I am still hoping for the Deeproads/Darkspawn Dlc but most likely that will end up as MP Dlc.

[Lebanese Dude]

I think they had a second DLC similar to Jaws of Hakkon in production, but ended up scrapping or reworking it to be more story-focused as a response to consumer reviews and requests.

 

Perhaps they were trying to make a DLC that would function with old-gen, but after failing to do so, scrapped the whole thing and started mostly from scratch. Considering old-gen was holding them back, I can see how they may have expanded their horizons thus requiring more time.

 

Alternatively, the incoming DLC can simply be pretty massive to the point of being a mini-expansion.

 

There are many potential reasons. Calm down guys.

[Al Foley]

ME 3 had 3 Story DLCs in one year time.  

 

BioWare is (likely) to release a new story DLC soon ™.  Which is about four months since Jaws is released, and about four more months till the game first launched.  Granted the third story DLC (if there is such a beast) could be a little on the late side, but they still have time to do roughly the same schegule they did with ME 3.  

[BobZilla84]

I think they had a second DLC similar to Jaws of Hakkon in production, but ended up scrapping or reworking it to be more story-focused as a response to consumer reviews and requests.
 
Perhaps they were trying to make a DLC that would function with old-gen, but after failing to do so, scrapped the whole thing and started mostly from scratch. Considering old-gen was holding them back, I can see how they may have expanded their horizons thus requiring more time.
 
Alternatively, the incoming DLC can simply be pretty massive to the point of being a mini-expansion.
 
There are many potential reasons. Calm down guys.

Expansion what is the meaning of this madness LD you need to get out here with your logic its not acceptable on BSN lol.;-)

[Guitar-Hero]

Personally I would abandon Witcher, Fallout and whatnot for a DAI story dlc.

Hah, my first thought when reading this was"what are you smoking and can i have some?" but ofcourse everyone have different tastes.

[Al Foley]

Hah, my first thought when reading this was"what are you smoking and can i have some?" but ofcourse everyone have different tastes.

I share them though I am curious to see where they go with the Witcher's Expansions.  

[Jeniva]

I am getting really impatient for a DLC and I find it odd that they don't seem to announce them in advance or do passes like others have mentioned. the sudden jaws of hakkon is out now was a bit wtf. It was fun but it wasn't at all what I wanted in a DLC. 
not much of a spoiler but

Spoiler

Would like some explanation to the post credits scene.

And to be able to talk to your companions again would be good, on subjects related to the DLC. 

[Heimdall]

Indication seems to be that we'll be getting something soon but they've been incredibly tight lipped about it.

[Al Foley]

Indication seems to be that we'll be getting something soon but they've been incredibly tight lipped about it.

And for good reason.