Reading this thread again, I feel like one of the LI's should have a gratuitously long sex scene, like Dan and Laurie in Watchmen with a flamethrower coitus. Unskillable of course.
It's even better when you realize that the top of the arena has viewing windows for an audience.Shep and Jack really should've just stripped down and shagged at the arena during the Citadel DLC.
It's even better when you realize that the top of the arena has viewing windows for an audience.
The ME1 scene is skippable. Which is what I have asked for if fade to black is not in the cards.
And as I said, "M" covers a lot of things. They have been "using it" Just not this particular aspect. "Because I can" is probably the worst excuse for adding any content.
So, what would the purpose of these filters be exactly? To blur out the sex scenes? To fade to black and skip them? To bleep out swear words? But most importantly, for what purpose?
So, what would the purpose of these filters be exactly? To blur out the sex scenes? To fade to black and skip them? To bleep out swear words? But most importantly, for what purpose?
My suspicion is that the purpose would be for people who don't want those things in the game.
My suspicion is that the purpose would be for people who don't want those things in the game.
There are plenty of other games for people who don't want such things.
There are plenty of other games for people who don't want such things.
There are also other games for people who do want such things.
Plus the part where it's been discussed to death about not being financially viable aside, it's not like this thread was asking for that content to be removed from the game entirely for everybody.
My suspicion is that the purpose would be for people who don't want those things in the game.
But why buy a game that contains such things in the first place, if you are so against it?
But why buy a game that contains such things in the first place, if you are so against it?
My guess is because they got into the franchise before and BioWare has gotten more explicit in their content as time goes on with the exception of a short time where they seemed terrified of nudity after the controversy of Mass Effect 1.
I'm not actually against such content, though. I just believe that more choice in how we consume our media is typically a good thing, provided it is financially viable for the developer to do it.
Hey, I just thought of something.... what if the silly ME3 scenes happened because the ME3 team thought they were going to get the same freedom that the DAI team got, but they didn't. Not enough time to re-do them, but enough time to reskin to underwear.
Probably not, but I'd like to think that nobody ever deliberately intended that shower scene.
"****, you sound like a *****." Jack
That right there would be enough to merit an M rating.
As long as they've got the M rating, why not go whole hog?
There seem to be all too many people who do want mammaries bouncing around. And more.
I am not familiar with these people but it sounds like they have some good ideas.
It's a shame, because it was a few strips of fabric away from being one of BioWare's better romance sequences.
It's good to be a member of the PC Master Race. I'd link, but I don't remember what the TOS says about this sort of thing.
Inconsistencies in game rating categorization is part of the problem.
Here is a recent Reuters article addressing smoking and flaws in ESRB ratings system.
But why buy a game that contains such things in the first place, if you are so against it?
This is quite a silly question. I bought Skyrim, even though I hate cliche main stories in video games. I bought it for lore, for gameplay, for modding potential to craft it into something I could really enjoy...
I still hate the bloody main story and wish it were different.
We buy games for the things we like in them, that doesn't mean we can't say we'd prefer something in them were different. We buy games if we find them to be overall fun/good. I dislike many things in Mass Effect 2 and it's my favorite game of all time. You're saying I shouldn't buy Mass Effect 2 because it has very linear game missions? I'm very against that!
Right. And I'm saying that I want them to do better than ME1. As usual, I don't share your tastes.
So you want unskippable sex scenes?
Clearly they aren't, as per the complaints made towards previous BioWare games.
Inquisition shows that they're listening to those folks, resulting in some really solid intimate scenes.
Wait, they were uncomfortable with...literally every game they've ever made before?
Uh ...
That's not drama. THat's a sex scene.
SHeesh no wonder romance fans get laughed at on other forums if that's what passes for "relationship drama"
Okay, but being a retriever automatically makes it a dog. Why shouldn't the game embrace being a retriever, especially if it's a well-behaved one?
What makes ME1 a M-rated game to you, instead of a T-rated game?
THis is me saying I prefer spaniels.
ANd offhand, I'd say ME1 is M instead of T because of the blood, language, partial nudity, sexual themes, and violence
I agree, but by properly using the M-rating, those scenes would also appear exactly as they were shot and intended with *gasp* the human(oid) body visible. You know, the way people actually do things. Nudity can also be done tastefully.
Please, please please don't tell me you think Traynor's shower scene would have been more tasteful if she wasn't in her underwear!
Are you offended by the Inquisitor also being topless?
Less so. THe Inquisitor's boobs weren't crowding the dialogue wheel
I think all those scenes should be skippable in some way, but not at the expense of them becoming trivial. That's precisely what'll happen if they're relegated to "the scenes that have to exist with or without a toggle". Inquisition took some strides forward in that arena, strides that this proposal would undo.
THey're romance scenes. Optional content of optional content. MAybe they should be "trivial"
You know what I think Inquisition made "great strides" in? Blackwall and Dorian's sex scenes were entirely optional. Not skippable. Optional. You could decline sex and not break the romance.
No, you're asking for the writers to keep conservative tastes in mind.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
How about the parents who would prefer for "the alien sex game" to be rated T so they can safely buy it for their children? Shall they keep their tastes in mind? If this content is going to become so inconsequential that it's able to be switched off with a toggle, why bother with the M rating?
Dang, I guess ME2 should be rated T!
Do you really consider what most pro-nudity people have discussed in this topic to be "clamoring"?
SOme, yes . Not all, but certainly the more"enthusiastic" ones
Can you run me through how the gameplay-based gore toggle is the same as a narrative-based content filter?
Gore toggle: violence without gratuitous amounts of blood
Skippable sex scenes: ROmance content without gratuitous amounts of T&A
Gore toggle: violence without gratuitous amounts of blood
Heh, as if. All the gore toggle does is keep your characters clean, but when the weapons come out the viscera still flies. On or off, my Warden decapitates the hell out of everyone and it's still a glorious crimson sprinkler. In DA2 a powerful critical blow makes mooks look like they stepped on a land mine.
They should've done like that GoW comic and have rainbows and sprinkles come out of them.
Heh, as if. All the gore toggle does is keep your characters clean, but when the weapons come out the viscera still flies. On or off, my Warden decapitates the hell out of everyone and it's still a glorious crimson sprinkler. In DA2 a powerful critical blow makes mooks look like they stepped on a land mine.
They should've done like that GoW comic and have rainbows and sprinkles come out of them.
Okay, violence with less gratuitous amounts of blood 
Wait, they were uncomfortable with...literally every game they've ever made before?
That's not drama. THat's a sex scene.
SHeesh no wonder romance fans get laughed at on other forums if that's what passes for "relationship drama"
This is me saying I prefer spaniels.
ANd offhand, I'd say ME1 is M instead of T because of the blood, language, partial nudity, sexual themes, and violence
Please, please please don't tell me you think Traynor's shower scene would have been more tasteful if she wasn't in her underwear!
Less so. THe Inquisitor's boobs weren't crowding the dialogue wheel
THey're romance scenes. Optional content of optional content. MAybe they should be "trivial"
You know what I think Inquisition made "great strides" in? Blackwall and Dorian's sex scenes were entirely optional. Not skippable. Optional. You could decline sex and not break the romance.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
Dang, I guess ME2 should be rated T!
) content filter, and it just might've been!Gore toggle: violence without gratuitous amounts of blood
Skippable sex scenes: ROmance content without gratuitous amounts of T&A
I would argue that Traynor's shower scene would have been more tasteful if she was actually nude, and that Shepard actually stripped as well. I don't think the bra and Shepard getting her uniform/hoodie wet because she's just so damn hot for not-yeomen is particularly good aesthetic judgment. It just looks dumb. Of course, a simple solution that satisfies this without causing any kind of stir would simply be to have the proper shots that just omit the "naughtiest" bits of the scene. If you're going to go full upper torso in an intimate scene that is typically done without clothing, it's silly to half-ass it.
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