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[Elhanan]

Does the fact they're said in a hilarious Seth Efrican accent not sooth your sensitive, sensitive ears?
 
Fookin' prawns, mate.

Would not know, as I pass on watching the film. The content warnings were enough for me to know that the language would be worse than the soldiers, athletes, and birthing Mother's I have known to be close to realistic. And thankfully, such common use of obscenity is not personally considered humorous, as it tends to reflect a more pathetic state of life, at least in my experience.

[Sully13]

i can just picture it now. Giant reaper explodes 2 ft in front of Shepard she says. "Oh my."

[Swan Killer]

Freak you, gosh darn it!

[SnakeCode]

i can just picture it now. Giant reaper explodes 2 ft in front of Shepard she says. "Oh my."

 

I prefer "Holy moley" myself. 

 

Also they should replace blood with gold coins like the censored version of No More Heroes.

[Grieving Natashina]

I've said my piece in this thread, but this has been surreal.  Between that Fornax cover here, the mini-Garrus climbing on Shep's butt, the mini-Garrus hanging out in her cleavage, as well as the Fornax cover all in the other open letter thread, I'm not awake enough for this madness.  Gods, what a thing to see right after a nap.  Be back in a bit,  I know I'm going to need coffee.

[Kappa Neko]

It is funny what will turn a person off! Personally I hate killing animals in video games, like wolves in Dragon's Dogma and Skyrim (they whine when they die) and dragons, yes, the dragons, in DAI, especially the ones with children. (The animations of the dragons are so animal-like they tug at my heart... they remind me of cats).

It can also change over time. In both directions, fascinating. You'd think we only get desensitized after excessive exposure. But not necessarily.

 

I avoid killing animals in games if I can. I got upset when a halla got caught in a fight and died... silly, I know! I got all my hide from such accidents. I never killed a nug, they are so adorable! The sounds they make, awwww.

In Skyrim, I only killed what attacked me. So no foxes or other cute animals. Fortunately, in Skyrim it didn't matter what animal you killed, they all ended up as the same material. Unlike in DAI. *sigh*

 

 

[Catastrophy]

If it's too hot and gory, don't touch it. It's that simple.

[Sully13]

If its hot and gory buy it for your 9 yearold.

[Spectr61]

Please no, it's a waste of resource to create 2 versions for that. It would never happen or should it. The game is rated mature, so those who are over 18 should be able to handle it. There are T rated games like Star Wars the Old republic, so Bioware does have games like that. Let ME be ME, don't change it. The game already has a bad reputation for being too mild for today's standard, there is no need to dilute it more.

Din, this.

Well written post, and quite good point. The solution is to not play mature games if they offend your personal tastes.

Not to suggest spending limited resources to cater to these tastes.

There are plenty of other gaming options.

[Il Divo]

The posts I recall were more along the lines of saying that the scenes would be worse without the swearing, not that they couldn't be written at all. But I may be over-estimating the sensibleness of the thread.

 

Essentially this. Sure, there are scenes in many great movies which you in theory could recreate entirely with different dialogue or synonyms. But that's not likely to enhance the effect.

 

I doubt gangsters for example give a damn for our delicate sensibilities. Pulp Fiction? Goodfellas? The Godfather? Sub out all the curse words and you end up with a substantially sterilized experience.

[Han Shot First]

All this talk about salty language now has me half hoping Mass Effect has a scene like this:

 

[Former_Fiend]

I've said my piece in this thread, but this has been surreal.  Between that Fornax cover here, the mini-Garrus climbing on Shep's butt, the mini-Garrus hanging out in her cleavage, as well as the Fornax cover all in the other open letter thread, I'm not awake enough for this madness.  Gods, what a thing to see right after a nap.  Be back in a bit,  I know I'm going to need coffee.

 

You want to talk about surreal, I just got a like on one of my posts in this thread from a guy who's screen name is the same as a character I had in a wrestling e-fed like ten years ago.

[elinema]

About swearing in general:

 

And also (don't watch if swearing absolutely offends you and you're going to try to attack me personally for trying to broaden your horizon):

 

 

Now if violence is your problem, then maybe try to not play a game which has at the center of it's story a war. War is and will always be a gruesome business. And if it bothers you so much, don't you have something bigger to fuss about, like...hmm, oh, actual real life wars and brutality, racism and other nasty things?

 

And do not get me started on nudity.

[wolfsite]

Can't really see this happening, mainly due to time and money.

 

-In order have a censored version they would need to remake every animation and script so there can be a less violent version.

 

-Also would need to do multiple recordings of dialogue.

 

-Would also need to make multiple scripted cutscenes, violent and non violent versions.

 

 

That would take too much time and money which could be put towards other aspects of the game such as missions, larger game world, etc.

 

 

All I can say is ratings are there for a reason and if you find the content of a game is too strong for you then don't play it.

[KaiserShep]

Would not know, as I pass on watching the film. The content warnings were enough for me to know that the language would be worse than the soldiers, athletes, and birthing Mother's I have known to be close to realistic. And thankfully, such common use of obscenity is not personally considered humorous, as it tends to reflect a more pathetic state of life, at least in my experience.

 

The irony here being that a movie can reflect extremely pathetic states of life in the form of torturous ordeals, destitute and the like. Like, if watching Children of Men, are we really going to fault the movie for having swearing when it's showing humanity in its death throes? 

 

Anyway, this "safeguard" stuff for explicit content is nonsense. BioWare really shouldn't waste its time assembling its games to cater to this sort of thing. I mean, what is this, Australia? 

[Chealec]

I recently posted this on my blog, and I wanted to share it here as well.

 

 

An Open Letter to Bioware,

 

 

....

 

 

While I can't really argue with the idea of a toggle-able explicit content filter; and I don't think it would even be *that* big of a deal to implement since anything that even remotely borders on explicit is basically a cut-scene - if the filter is on, skip the "offending" cut-scene (or fade to black)...

 

I do have to kind of question "explicit" though...

 

I'm guessing there's some kind of cultural schism going on here... there's nothing in ME that really qualifies as explicit by European standards - no more than a hint of side-boob or bum; you'd see more on a day-trip to the seaside on a hot day or in just about any tabloid newspaper.

[BraveVesperia]

I think the 'persistent gore' toggle in DA is enough, personally. And that's because I don't like walking around with my characters covered in blood. Especially in DA2, where it's in their teeth. Their eyes. Everywhere. Except the hair, for some reason (even the blood doesn't like Bioware hair?  )

 

As for the sex scenes, I'm fine with how ME1 and DAI do it. Nudity, but no action. I prefer the bits in the romance scene where they're talking and getting to know each other, their thoughts. Wouldn't say no to more nudity, however. Like male bums, at the very least. 

[ArabianIGoggles]

I can just see it now.  Mass Effect Andromeda: Pansy Edition

[Paulomedi]

I can just see it now.  Mass Effect Andromeda: Pansy Edition

 

It's more: MEA: Prude Hypocritical Freedom Edition.

[FKA_Servo]

Skillfully employed profanity is one of life's great pleasures. Sometimes, you just need a word to that conveys your feelings exactly.

 

There's no danger of the entire cast of a Mass Effect game (or a Dragon Age game, for that matter) sounding like a GTA game. Maybe a couple (doubt it would be excessive, though - think between the three of them, Jack, Bull, and Blackwall drop less than 10 f-bombs), but if those squadmates are optional (and I contend that recruiting all or most squadmates should probably be optional), then people are free to pass on that.

 

Bioware should still make the game they want to make though, and toggles are still completely unnecessary.

[Iakus]

OP was certainly right in the prediction that individuals would come out of the woodwork to attack and deride this idea, not to mention the OP him/herself.

 

You know, rather than contribute anything useful to the discussion.

[Elhanan]

Essentially this. Sure, there are scenes in many great movies which you in theory could recreate entirely with different dialogue or synonyms. But that's not likely to enhance the effect.
 
I doubt gangsters for example give a damn for our delicate sensibilities. Pulp Fiction? Goodfellas? The Godfather? Sub out all the curse words and you end up with a substantially sterilized experience.

Note that The Godfather is the only one mentioned I chose to watch, and then skipped the sequels. Plus the friend that went along fell asleep; not the best recommendation.

[Andrew Lucas]

The irony here being that a movie can reflect extremely pathetic states of life in the form of torturous ordeals, destitute and the like. Like, if watching Children of Men, are we really going to fault the movie for having swearing when it's showing humanity in its death throes? 
 
Anyway, this "safeguard" stuff for explicit content is nonsense. BioWare really shouldn't waste its time assembling its games to cater to this sort of thing. I mean, what is this, Australia?

I wish.

[Elhanan]

The irony here being that a movie can reflect extremely pathetic states of life in the form of torturous ordeals, destitute and the like. Like, if watching Children of Men, are we really going to fault the movie for having swearing when it's showing humanity in its death throes? 
 
Anyway, this "safeguard" stuff for explicit content is nonsense. BioWare really shouldn't waste its time assembling its games to cater to this sort of thing. I mean, what is this, Australia?

Can reflect pathetic settings, but often do not. Cursing is often dropped as often as fertilizer, and can appear to be as appealing. And personally thought CoM was a dull film.

[Former_Fiend]

In the video I posted a few pages back that gave a brief look into the history and science of swearing, they mention McKay Hatch, a kid who started a "No Cussing" club at his school and became the target of a huge amount of mockery and attacks because of it. 

 

I'm ashamed to admit that in my high school days, I absolutely would have been part of the group to verbally attack him for that concept. 

 

These days I'm more laid back. While I still drop more f-bombs in a day than Jack did in the entirety of ME2, I'm less hostile about the whole concept. I value my swearing; I value swearing in general. I recognize the cultural and social function it serves. But I'm not going to attack someone for choosing to live their life differently, so long as they aren't condescending and hostile towards me for mine. 

 

That's how I feel about the OP and several others in this thread who dislike swearing; that's fine for them. Those are their choices, their preferences, their lives. If that isn't something they want in their lives that's fair. 

 

I'm still opposed to the proposition of this thread because I think it represents a compromise in artistic vision, but I try not to be hostile in my statements in that regard.