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An Open Letter to Bioware Regarding Explicit Content


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But overly sensitive people are exactly the people that need to be coddled. Reality is too harsh, so they create their hug boxes, echo chambers and "safe spaces." Whether that be in real life, the internet, or yes, even videogames. Don't suggest that they should have to deal with nasty reality you meanie!

 

So I see I'm not the only one who watched last week's episode of South Park.



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So I see I'm not the only one who watched last week's episode of South Park.

 

Haven't seen it yet unfortunately, but heard great things about it.


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So this thread is still alive?

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Not trying to be mean, but why should Bioware waste time and resources to coddle overly sensitive people?


Well Bioware seems to be the developer that listend to politically correct commentary.

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The biggest problem with this thread from my perspective is that Dragon Age and Mass Effect are kind of two of the games (among others) that considerably ramped the amount of graphic sexual scenes, romance, etc, in games generally. If graphic sexual scenes bother you it just seems odd to request that Dragon Age and Mass Effect slow them down, a better solution would just be to play Rayman or Mario or something.. or maybe Pikmin or Disgaea or... I mean.. there are a lot of options. As the very first handful of replies to this topic pointed out.

 

Consequently, it's somewhat hard to take the other issues presented in the OP very seriously on the topic of explicit or sexual content generally.

 

And TW1. :wizard:  =] 


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Well Bioware seems to be the developer that listend to politically correct commentary.


Trying to show that women are people too is not being politically correct.

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I'd rather they flirt with the dreaded AO rating and ratchet the romance and sex up to 11!



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The biggest problem with this thread from my perspective is that Dragon Age and Mass Effect are kind of two of the games (among others) that considerably ramped the amount of graphic sexual scenes, romance, etc, in games generally. If graphic sexual scenes bother you it just seems odd to request that Dragon Age and Mass Effect slow them down, a better solution would just be to play Rayman or Mario or something.. or maybe Pikmin or Disgaea or... I mean.. there are a lot of options. As the very first handful of replies to this topic pointed out.

 

"graphic sexual scenes"=/= romance.

 

Also, getting annoyed that the counter to giving feedback on this matter seems to come down to "Well I'm happy with it, so go away" along with condescending "Go play Mario games instead"  Rather than looking fro ways to provide more options for everyone, the focus is instead on how to marginalize a point of view and belittle their concerns.


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The Sex free menu option should be included for all the "Josephine Romance" types.



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"graphic sexual scenes"=/= romance.

 

Also, getting annoyed that the counter to giving feedback on this matter seems to come down to "Well I'm happy with it, so go away" along with condescending "Go play Mario games instead"  Rather than looking fro ways to provide more options for everyone, the focus is instead on how to marginalize a point of view and belittle their concerns.

It sound nice on paper but practically try to please everyone is most horrible think to do for book/movie/game. People like different thinks. Like I don't like killing my enemy, DA:I more or less allowed me it and I am happy but for some it not important and they rather have more kill animations. Or I like samara hanging melons some people want to put her in iron man hulkbuster armor, I don't want what it. Look at DA:I I never asked "open world" and exploration and i hate i because they wasted time and resources for something I never wanted, looks like ME will be same boring fetch quest time sink. And so on and on.



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The Sex free menu option should be included for all the "Josephine Romance" types.

I would love if we had more Josephine-like romances. 



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Also, getting annoyed that the counter to giving feedback on this matter seems to come down to "Well I'm happy with it, so go away" along with condescending "Go play Mario games instead"  Rather than looking fro ways to provide more options for everyone, the focus is instead on how to marginalize a point of view and belittle their concerns.


"It's a waste of zots" isn't an inherently unreasonable request to a proposed new feature, is it?
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The Sex free menu option should be included for all the "Josephine Romance" types.


Yes, as long as it is flagged as such. Maybe you can have a codex entry that lists all the characters who are stuck in an Abrahamic worldview of sex before marriage being evil (unless it is incest, or sending your daughter out to be gangraped etc).

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Yes, as long as it is flagged as such. Maybe you can have a codex entry that lists all the characters who are stuck in an Abrahamic worldview of sex before marriage being evil (unless it is incest, or sending your daughter out to be gangraped etc).

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It sound nice on paper but practically try to please everyone is most horrible think to do for book/movie/game. People like different thinks. Like I don't like killing my enemy, DA:I more or less allowed me it and I am happy but for some it not important and they rather have more kill animations. Or I like samara hanging melons some people want to put her in iron man hulkbuster armor, I don't want what it. Look at DA:I I never asked "open world" and exploration and i hate i because they wasted time and resources for something I never wanted, looks like ME will be same boring fetch quest time sink. And so on and on.

Whatever flaws DAI has, outfits were thankfully not one of them.  Since we are able to craft armors for ourselves and our squadmates, none of them (even Iron Hull) are required to flash ridiculous amounts of skin.

 

Wheras in ME2, EVERYONE was forced to deal with Samara forgetting how a zipper works.

 

"It's a waste of zots" isn't an inherently unreasonable request to a proposed new feature, is it?

Zots are a factor to be sure.  Though that rarely seems to be a counterargument.  More often it's accusations of being a prude, of being overly religious/conservative/overly sensitive.  They attack the person rather than the idea.



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Jaime is lucky having a sister that looks like that, oooo weee.



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If BioWare is going to cater to prudes afraid of sex, can they also cater to the NTR lifestyle?



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If BioWare is going to cater to prudes afraid of sex, can they also cater to the NTR lifestyle?

 

 

 

Zots are a factor to be sure.  Though that rarely seems to be a counterargument.  More often it's accusations of being a prude, of being overly religious/conservative/overly sensitive.  They attack the person rather than the idea.

Thank you, wolfhowwl, for illuststrating my point to Alan



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Jaime is lucky having a sister that looks like that, oooo weee.


Why?

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Why?

 

Do i have to explain about the birds and the bees?



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Do i have to explain about the birds and the bees?


No - but you are saying that Jaime is lucky his sister is attractive as otherwise he wouldn't want to commit incest?

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Jaime is lucky having a sister that looks like that, oooo weee.

 

The logic doesn't follow. If Jaime's sister was unattractive, Jaime wouldn't be unlucky. He'd just have an ugly sister and he'd get with someone else. Unless there's some advantage that the incest part provides...



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Whatever flaws DAI has, outfits were thankfully not one of them.  Since we are able to craft armors for ourselves and our squadmates, none of them (even Iron Hull) are required to flash ridiculous amounts of skin.

 

Wheras in ME2, EVERYONE was forced to deal with Samara forgetting how a zipper works.

 

Zots are a factor to be sure.  Though that rarely seems to be a counterargument.  More often it's accusations of being a prude, of being overly religious/conservative/overly sensitive.  They attack the person rather than the idea.

Well I think about companion armor I see no reason to allow us to change it. How character dress is big representation of personality and character itself. Like character Grey Fullbuster as child he was training to be ice wizard in cold mountains naked, and got habit to take of clothes. You may not like it but it's part of personality and backstory, it's fine to not like character but it's your problem not character. You don't like Samara fine take Tali she is great and have forced suit 24/7.

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Well I think about companion armor I see no reason to allow us to change it. How character dress is big representation of personality and character itself. Like character Grey Fullbuster as child he was training to be ice wizard in cold mountains naked, and got habit to take of clothes. You may not like it but it's part of personality and backstory, it's fine to not like character but it's your problem not character. You don't like Samara fine take Tali she is great and have forced suit 24/7.

 

That was the beauty of DAI:  the armor's appearance changed depending on who wore it.  SO characters were able to maintain a unique theme for themselves while allowing the player to select from a variety of looks.

 

We should not all be subjected to Samara, the aescetic warrior, to be flashing her blueberries in combat.


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DA:I was definitely the best of both worlds in that regard.