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[FKA_Servo]

lies, you guys sit around playing tetris in between emu attacks

 

Forget about the drop bears and the trapdoor alligators.

[dreamgazer]

lies, you guys sit around playing tetris in between emu attacks

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Steelcan]

Never been on an emu frontline, have you son? Sometimes a non-violent video game is the only thing that can take you away from the actual violence... and the squawking.

Can you explain this then?

 

[Han Shot First]

Never been on an emu frontline, have you son? Sometimes a non-violent video game is the only thing that can take you away from the actual violence... and the squawking.

 

[FKA_Servo]

 

Frankly, I think all the limitations on what you can and cannot play would probably sting all the more, for the simple reason that if I lived in Australia, I'm not sure I'd ever leave my sealed bunker

 

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[Zazzerka]

Can you explain this then?

 

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It's as if you guys are deliberately trying to trigger my PTED. Post Traumatic Emu Disorder.

[Grieving Natashina]

I think Daemion was referring to an in-game filter, not a file edit.

[Cyonan]

It's as if you guys are deliberately trying to trigger my PTED. Post Traumatic Emu Disorder.

 

It greatly amuses me that something Australia had called the "great emu war" is a legitimate Wikipedia entry.

[Steelcan]

It greatly amuses me that something Australia had called the "great emu war" is a legitimate Wikipedia entry.

and lost

 

let us not forget that part

[Cyonan]

and lost

 

let us not forget that part

 

That's the best part.

[dreamgazer]

It greatly amuses me that something Australia had called the "great emu war" is a legitimate Wikipedia entry.

I love that the photo of an emu from that Wiki entry page is essentially an "implied facepalm" image.

[timebean]

Beyond the financial and artistic arguments which have been covered here, there is another reason I'm strongly opposed to this idea.

Expecting other people to bend over backwards to cater to your sensibilities seems to be trendy right now. Instead of growing the #@$! up (see what I did there?) is like no one can stand anything that even slightly offends them. Whatever happened to growing a thicker skin, or don't like it don't see it?

Say the OP was asking for a toggle for homosexual content. Wouldn't be the first time. How is that request any less reasonable? They're asking for the option to remove content that offends and disturbs them personally. It won't affect anyone else's game, and they'll be able to better enjoy the experience!

What I would tell them it's pretty much the same thing I'll tell the OP. You can't have your cake and eat it too. If it's that big of a problem for you, don't play the game, or at least avoid content you don't like. There's not that much, it should be easy. If it's not that big of a problem for you I guess you'll have to put up with it.

In not trying to deride you, but that comfort zone of yours? Might be valuable going out of it from time to time. I'm sorry, but that blatant refusal to leave it, to the point of asking other people to go way out of their way so you don't have to be bothered, looks awfully childish from where I'm standing.

If someone wanted a homosexual toggle, I'd tell them homosexuality is a thing that exists, that no one is forcing them to play the game or that part of it, and that being exposed to it, even a little, might be good for them and soften up their prejudice.

To the OP I say words don't bite, not even if they're cusswords, which after all are just those we've arbitrarily decided are inappropriate. I would tell him not all that long ago in the great fabric of things both our ancestors went around naked all the time with no one the wiser, and that sexual taboos are as human made as clothes. I would suggest that, in a game that is all about violence, pretending gore is 'bad for you' is more than a little hypocritical.

He obviously doesn't agree with me, and it's unlikely he ever will. But everyone everywhere is offended by something. I'm offended by the overabundance of Christian iconography and the insistence on praying before eating at my cousin's mother's house. I most definitely think that stuff (religion) ain't good for the soul, but you won't see me asking them to put away their toys and stop talking into the air when in around.

Because the thing is, what offends the OP it's no more important than what offends others. It doesn't merit special treatment, and in the end I think everyone should leave their comfort zone from time to time and be exposed to other points of view, not cuddled so they don't ever ever have to leave it.

Just wanted to quote this because I agree 1000000000000000 times with it, and am only allowed to give it one like.

 

 

Also...I have been thinking about something the OP said waaaaaay back...about what is good for his/her mind.

 

I am just as protective of my mind as the OP.  For example, I adored Game of Thrones.  But I have decided to stop watching it because I do not want my MIND to get used to watching rape.  I think that becoming desensitized to that is bad for my mind and my soul (all that jazz). I don't want torture and rape to become commonplace in my entertainment diet.

 

However, I do not bug the directors to make changes for me.  I don't bother friends to record the episodes and leave out the bad parts so I can still watch.   As a fully functioning adult with a decent mind and a strong moral code...I just said...NO.  No more.  I don't want to do that to my mind.  I am a little sad that I have to give up the cool story, but I am MUCH more proud of myself for just letting it go.  Because my mind means more to me than some dumb TV show.

 

So...I am not trying to attack the OP.  I get that you want to protect your mind and all that.  I just believe, truly believe, that letting M-rated titles go is probably the most effective and, frankly, the most honest way to go about it. 

 

As per usual...just my own wee opinion.

[Zazzerka]

It greatly amuses me that something Australia had called the "great emu war" is a legitimate Wikipedia entry.

and lost

 

let us not forget that part

That's the best part.

 

I'm glad the darkest parts of my nation's history amuses you. I've actually been bitten by an emu, and let me tell you, it's a terrifying experience.

[Elhanan]

Thing is, we do get tired at having to let games go past without playing them. So when someone presents an idea that may allow us to further customize the experience, I support them.

And I skip GoT, too.

[LinksOcarina]

Man, this thread devolved a bit didn't it?

[timebean]

Thing is, we do get tired at having to let games go past without playing them. So when someone presents an idea that may allow us to further customize the experience, I support them.

And I skip GoT, too.

That's totally fair.

 

I have been having a lot of discussions with friends recently regarding GoT and all that. I am by no means going to start watching "family-friendly" stuff...I like a little bite to my entertainment. But it was all just too much for me, in the end.

 

However, there are still amazing fantasy-fiction shows/books out there for me to enjoy that do not rejoice in offhand rape and torture (and it is the offhand, almost flippant thing that really gets to me).  If the future means that all such shows have large quantities of it, will I stop watching TV all together?  I am not sure.   Will I be more sympathetic to the OP, who only wants options for the games?  Maybe.

 

  But for now, I think cutting out the "bad"  while still having plenty to enjoy is totally possible.

[Steelcan]

I'm glad the darkest parts of my nation's history amuses you. I've actually been bitten by an emu, and let me tell you, it's a terrifying experience.

I'm forced to conclude that emus actually run Australia

[Zazzerka]

I'm forced to conclude that emus actually run Australia

 

Haha, there is totally not an emu looking over my shoulder, approving every word I type, haha.

[FKA_Servo]

Edited in light of the below.

[Bryan Johnson]

Lets get back on topic here please

[Iakus]

I'll copy and paste in what I wrote on Reddit

 

Alright this comment is my own personal opinion, does not represent BioWare, especially because I am not a content creator. I generally work on technical aspects. I also look at the cost of making some type of content, so that is the avenue I will work on.

So in the open letter there is a focus on three things: Language, Gore and Sexual Content.

 

I will start with Sexual Content: I believe this is something that wont really be touched because it is a set of avoidable content (of course you have to somewhat know whats coming, but in essence something like romance scenes you are aware they are coming because essentially if you flirt enough you get a scene. Even something like DAI where there was a different scene for Cassandra and Sera if you bought the Japanese verison of the game, required additional code development and quite a bit more testing. IE how do you properly detect you are the japanese version (it is more challenging than you would think).

 

Gore: I believe in DAI there is an option to turn off majority of gore, since the games generally involve blood it is a pretty targeted to turn off.

 

Language: Herein lies the major challenge. First you have to decide "where is the line" do you consider "crap" explict? Is a simple switch like 'f**k' being replaced by frack (BSG style) acceptable? Do you take the ESRB definitions (what about PEGI)? After you have decided that, do you do a completely different conversation or just a single line? If it is a single line you have to ensure that it makes sense in the context. Now with that single change, if it is the hero speaking it you have at least 2 additional recordings (male/female) if it is DA it is now 4 (british/american), does the line have any plot dependencies (ie sera romance style with pet name) 2 (british/american) x 6 pet names. So that is a lot of additional writer/actor/qa time. Also there is a disc cost, ~14% of the disc is VO (for a single language) and there is a limit to how big things can be before your cost goes up quite a bit.

 

Like anything for a business it does come down to money, so is the cost of the feature likely to recover cost, and ultimately make a profit. A feature like this I don't believe would be able to recover its cost, since I dont believe the size of the market is that big (but could be wrong).

THank you for responding.

 

FOr myself, I enjoy the romances in Bioware games, but more for the love story than the sex scenes.  As I have mentioned in previous posts, as long as the option to simply skip past the scene like I could in ME1, whether it's there or not is no big deal for me.

 

However, the Cassandra romance in DAI, I could not  skip past it.  So in order to have that love story, I had to take a topless scene along with it.  Certainly not as gratuitous as what would find in one of the Witcher games.  But the option would certainly have been nice.  I'm sure it bothered others a lot more than it did me.

 

Gore:  Yeah I do hit the toggle in all the Dragon Age games.  But that still doesn't remove some of the rather silly explosions of gore that can occur.  

 

Language:  Bioware has, imo been pretty good about not going blue, so I have no real concerns in that regard.

[Steelcan]

THank you for responding.

 

FOr myself, I enjoy the romances in Bioware games, but more for the love story than the sex scenes.  As I have mentioned in previous posts, as long as the option to simply skip past the scene like I could in ME1, whether it's there or not is no big deal for me.

 

However, the Cassandra romance in DAI, I could not  skip past it.  So in order to have that love story, I had to take a topless scene along with it.  Certainly not as gratuitous as what would find in one of the Witcher games.  But the option would certainly have been nice.  I'm sure it bothered others a lot more than it did me.

 

Gore:  Yeah I do hit the toggle in all the Dragon Age games.  But that still doesn't remove some of the rather silly explosions of gore that can occur.  

 

Language:  Bioware has, imo been pretty good about not going blue, so I have no real concerns in that regard.

Go watch the romance scenes for Triss, Keira Metz, any prostitute, or that viking lady whose name I forget i TW3, then call it gratuitous nudity

[FKA_Servo]

Go watch the romance scenes for Triss, Keira Metz, any prostitute, or that viking lady whose name I forget i TW3, then call it gratuitous nudity

It's true that you generally have to actively seek this stuff out.